I'm more partial to you lose everything. You spawn as a fresh character, but your old dead character's fort is still in the game world, all the chests are empty, forge broken and so on..like it was raided.
Go play on a PvP server...there is definitely a penalty. At least vs other players for the most part.hehe.Even back in the early builds 'Death', didn't really have all that much meaning then. Getting the 'infection' however, sparked a sense of urgency, that pushed you to get it cured, even if it didn't have a penalty if you died from it.
..and I do want a real penalty upon death at some point.
Losing wellness on death was a good start. In the current scheme, maybe death should lower max health and it can only regen over time rather than being raised with medical items. Right now death is just annoying.hehe.Even back in the early builds 'Death', didn't really have all that much meaning then. Getting the 'infection' however, sparked a sense of urgency, that pushed you to get it cured, even if it didn't have a penalty if you died from it.
..and I do want a real penalty upon death at some point.
In theory I guess. But in actually playing it that thought never once dawned on me....partly due to the fact that I never expect to die in any l33t dungeon-- until I do.
That is the real Game rigth now.
You can literally do all that in the game settings already...
^^ This has potential. This would add a good gameplay dyanmic. Have a gas station that you had to power on a special generator that makes a ton of noise and pulls in a giant horde, but gives a descent amount of gas (but you have to pump it into a container).
Right. I do think this is a fundamental flaw in the game right now, though. Imagination can only carry you so far. Another thing is that it can be enjoyable just to watch how they behave and destroy, but that only carries so far too. Not that I want the game to have an end to it, but if it was required to put yourself through non-rewarding horde nights in order to reach some end, that would be enough incentive.There are other incentives but they have to do with role-playing and enjoying tower defense for its own sake....
Which is why 0xp is best as a mod. Incentives outside the realm of loot and xp are going to be for a niche crowd at best.
I am honestly saddened by the fact that it has come to this. What *is* the horde night? An event that spawns a bunch of zombies which you farm if you feel like it? Well, unfortunately, that's exactly what it is. It is optional. And since it's optional, people feel like they need incentives to participate, else there is no point to it and as you said "it's a waste". One of the reasons why people also complained about decreased loot.
Criminally fundamental flaw if I may add.
Yes! I agree it should be something you must participate in.
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Pretending sucks...
Not sure what you mean, you never have to fight the horde or build defenses if you don't want to. Never mind AI, it's a WIP and it's complex. You can easily get away for example by just sprinting or using a vehicle (which hardly costs more than running). And if you do die and keep dying... so what, besides getting a slight, sometimes negligible, penalty? I am just waiting for the options.
Hundreds of hours on 17.2 - never once found the chassis for ANY vehicle whatsoever. Not once. Found parts. Only twice mind you and never in a situation where I actually got to use those parts. Even if it is on the loot list somewhere, that does not constitute you being able to assemble it.
