PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!
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madmole
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If all we had was pvp then I'm sure we'd add that. We might add it, its just not on the A18 plate right now. Once Robert is done with RWG he can start adding more game play. Right now our community wants RWG badly not one new class for a special reload function that only works on one weapon.
There are a lot of games that implement this feature.Even if you can’t realize it perfectly and worry about it, I think that this is the moment when the main thing is the possibility to do it, and not the quality of the performance. By the way a quality can always be improved in the future
KingSlayerGM
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A lot of people want the caves too!! And ziplines.. never forget
xyth
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Exactly. While the intent isn't to reduce FPS as a goal, many things modders want to do impact FPS. For example, we have almost a dozen new AI Classes to implement, and those take resources. Additional cameras take resources. Having hordes of 300+ zombies will take resources. Those are all things available but out of the reach of players without powerful computers until MM's optimizations are in.
spacepiggio
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Saves me the time of making my own post since we are talkin Shotty's, have the animations changed?
I think the Long Barrel Shotty should be a Semi-Auto, No Pump Animation, like hunting Ducks...
The Short Barrel Shotty should have the Pump Animation and not the Long 1.
Now lets talk Tools & Repairing, I feel we should add the Degradation back for Repairing. Being able to Repair a Tool back to 100% just doesn't feel right to me or Unrealistic...Arrrggghhh
Damocles
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+1 for procedural caves.
The tech (terrain generation) is there, and those types of POIs are fun to explore, as observable in Minecraft.
Overall its not really hard to implement, and a pretty rewarding feature for the game.
Its not that the whole underground needs to be littered by procedural caves. Just something like 8 caves for a 4k map, 32 for an 8k map.
The tech (terrain generation) is there, and those types of POIs are fun to explore, as observable in Minecraft.
Overall its not really hard to implement, and a pretty rewarding feature for the game.
Its not that the whole underground needs to be littered by procedural caves. Just something like 8 caves for a 4k map, 32 for an 8k map.
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AtomicUs5000
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I don't think they would be as good as you might expect. Due to the structural integrity system, the most they could possibly do are small tunnels. You wouldn't get those impressive cave systems like in Minecraft with huge underground ravines and such. With these limitations (structural integrity is a fantastic system in this game and I hate to call it a limitation, but in this regard, it is the limiting factor), they are better off making a few POI caverns systems that are randomly selected from and randomly placed.
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You forget that he enjoys mainly Bethesda games, which are for the most part, fudgedThere are a lot of games that implement this feature.Even if you can’t realize it perfectly and worry about it, I think that this is the moment when the main thing is the possibility to do it, and not the quality of the performance. By the way a quality can always be improved in the future
KingSlayerGM
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But structural integrity is broken. If enough blocks are involved, nothing will collapse. This is a bug when it results in floating structures.
However this allows for huge underground cavities that never collapse. Just try to dig at bedrock level and check it for yourself, you won't be able to collapse everything. So randomly generated caves are actually feasible, and, let's face it, desirable.
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AtomicUs5000
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So you want them to add in features that can exist because of a bug?
KingSlayerGM
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I consider it a feature for the underground
Damocles
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Caves collapsing: thats more a question how the structural integrity calculation are implemented.
The game could assume anything at gamestart (terrain dirt voxels) to have full structural integrity, and ignore any calculations.
Only dirt-voxels (and other voxels) that are PLAYER placed, (or near player made changes), are marked to be considered in the SI calculations. E.g.: only player-placed dirt can fall apart.
POI voxels (apart from the soil) can be handled like now.
Ignoring any dirt-voxels from the gamestart would allow any number of crazy caves, without them falling apart.
The cave-generator just needs to make them structurally meaningfull at generation time.
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POI caves are the other options. There are already a number of them included.
This approach works as well ... but requires more manual work by POI designers at the end to have a decent variety.
The game could assume anything at gamestart (terrain dirt voxels) to have full structural integrity, and ignore any calculations.
Only dirt-voxels (and other voxels) that are PLAYER placed, (or near player made changes), are marked to be considered in the SI calculations. E.g.: only player-placed dirt can fall apart.
POI voxels (apart from the soil) can be handled like now.
Ignoring any dirt-voxels from the gamestart would allow any number of crazy caves, without them falling apart.
The cave-generator just needs to make them structurally meaningfull at generation time.
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POI caves are the other options. There are already a number of them included.
This approach works as well ... but requires more manual work by POI designers at the end to have a decent variety.
The Gronk
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They would still collapse as soon as you farted near them. You've delayed the problem, not solved it.
The cave generator needs to guarantee a minimum structural integrity for each block otherwise you're curing the symptom, not the disease.
It's certainly possible but also time-consuming, there are higher priorities.
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