PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!
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ZombieHorde
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A subway WOULD be cool - and even cooler if it was more than just a prefab.
For example, please the Duke and you can ride the subway to get around the map.
The trains station is a way for people to get out of the zombie effected area and therefore to safety. One of your roles as game hero can be to save NPC's.
Become a diplomat for the Duke and get to travel out of Navezgane (with the possibility of 'winning' as you are now safe).
The train station is the only way to the Duke's castle. But before you think of battling him, make sure you're at least on par with Thor's abilities or you'll suffer insta-death - in real life. Somehow his minions come out of the computer screen and get you. So be prepared!
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*Prepping the beard sauce again*
dhlmaster
Refugee
This happens when you are in an area where higher gamestage players have been recently. They run through an area, zombies spawn, the sleeper volumes retain memory of what zombies were there for a certain amount of time. If a low gamestage character comes through afterward, they get the high gamestage zombies. Sleeper volumes retaining memory for awhile was a feature of a17 because people complained that in a16 you could duck out of a POI and walk back in, and there would be completely different zombies.
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ZombieHorde
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Not the silliest way I would have died.
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I don't understand the ethos behind this. Why would a qual 6 be worse than qual 3? Do you mean that it's damage is worse so you have to fix it?
The same was said about solar panels, but TFP could never reproduce that effect. Possible explanations:
1) This happens if someone builds 5 things in a specific order while hitting the shift button 43 times and have two graphic cards in a crossfire/SLI setting with ambient occlusion turned off. Everyone else just has unfounded fear of solar panels and trigger plates.
2) In one or two alphas this actually was the case but was corrected a long time ago, now people perpetrate that old wisdom like it was a law of nature.
3) It is difficult to reproduce because it only happens in multiplayer after some other bug produced a state that isn't normal or valid anymore. So the effect may be similar to someone suddenly getting exceptions in his log whenever he mounts his vehicle (this happened to one of my group just yesterday). Server restart or even loggin out corrects that but obviously such a bug is very hard to pinpoint or reproduce. But like we still use vehicles despite them being buggy once every 100 hours we should simply use panels and plates. The worst that could happen is TFP finally getting a hint why it happens.
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While I like the subway idea TFP's would need to answer a few questions like:
1. How will a working subway work on the map in random gen, RG.
2. Would it just connect to city's or other places like neighborhoods, parks and so on?
3. Would players fast travel or would they travel normally?
4. What to do with zombies, bandits and other threats?
5. Would the subway be destructible like the rest of the world? If so what happens if it's damaged and the route crippled?
6, Finally, is the work put into building a subway and network be worth the time?
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There is no fix, the stats just have such a big random range. This makes the quality value nearly useless at first. You still have to check the individual attributes even if you find a gun one or two steps below, because it might still be better than your gun.
I see a good reason for it though: It makes it possible to have an excellent gun with one value being really devastatingly bad, or a generally bad gun with one exceptional value. Will you still use it?
In light of this I would hope they made less important attributes of guns (or armors) have bigger random ranges than important attributes. Because even a relatively unimportant attribute might be important if it goes to one of the extremes. Block damage on most guns, handling and recoil on shotguns are examples of this.
Why do you ask? That his stilt base was still standing is quite normal. I have tried to collapse whole appartement buildings and they often were holding up on a handful of blocks. SI is very forgiving in that regard.
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falloutcloud
Refugee
I would like to see a clearing of one of the new POIs too! I would also like to see more of the book collection videos.
Lonestarcanuck
Refugee
So if armor plates are just that plates. why can't I put any kind of plate on any kind of armor? it just goes into a pocket right?
Gareee
Tester
I REALLY DON'T want the new pois spoiled. Leave us some surprises!
@MADMOLE: I know you are at content lock, but since 18 exp is hitting in october, maybe some seasonal Halloween deco ike the christmas items could be worked in? Maybe rotted jack-o-lanterns on porches that could be used as an additional light sources, or a witches hat with loot properties like the lucky goggles?
The Graphic guys are probably just sitting on their thumbs anyway, and there are always those seasonal Halloween themed game recommendation lists.
Shame the demolishers didn't show up.... when they changed the damage to blocks maybe they broke them spawning in on horde nights?
@MADMOLE: I know you are at content lock, but since 18 exp is hitting in october, maybe some seasonal Halloween deco ike the christmas items could be worked in? Maybe rotted jack-o-lanterns on porches that could be used as an additional light sources, or a witches hat with loot properties like the lucky goggles?
The Graphic guys are probably just sitting on their thumbs anyway, and there are always those seasonal Halloween themed game recommendation lists.
Shame the demolishers didn't show up.... when they changed the damage to blocks maybe they broke them spawning in on horde nights?
Survager
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Madmole, you have long said in one of the videos that in the 17th alpha additional types of barrels will be available: with water and with oil.
We got an analog of water barrels; these are 20 liter bottles and coolers. Do similar containers appear in Alpha 18 from which oil can be obtained?
Maybe it could just be black barrels at the service station?
We got an analog of water barrels; these are 20 liter bottles and coolers. Do similar containers appear in Alpha 18 from which oil can be obtained?
Maybe it could just be black barrels at the service station?
madmole
Fun Pimps Staff
I start questing immediately so I have an expendable income and buy ammo and find mines ASAP so I have all the ammo I need. All you need is a choke point and feed them melee one at a time, numbers are irrelevant then. Like they say in Skyrim "Only a fool lets himself get surrounded".
Anyhow you guys should know
madmole
Fun Pimps Staff
Hammer takes two hits, nailgun takes 1. The nailgun anim is a little sluggish though IMO.Hey, MadMole, re: my question about the nailgun.
You thought it may be a bug. The reason I suggested it was sluggish isn't wasn't just in comparing it to the previous Alpha (prior to 17), but also because the claw hammer upgrades and repairs faster than the nailgun from what I see.
Maybe someone else on the forum could check and confirm or demonstrate to the contrary?
I would expect to see an increased speed and/or upgrade and repair % with the nailgun over the claw hammer since the former is a technological upgrade to the latter.
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