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MM, i have a question about the new books/magazines design.
Anyone can read the books and learn the abilities? o will they have skill requierements?

Example: A book that allows you to craft refined fuel (better performance per gallon or something) requires having Yeah science skill lvl 5

If you don't have that ability you better trade it to someone who can use it, sell it or scrap.

Thoughts?
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There are zero requirements. Every time I started thinking "you know this is pretty cool perk, it should have some requirements" I came back to the realization that it takes away from the design which was to give players something useful but not OP to collect from book stores with a cool bonus after collecting them all.

 
Yeh, bite your tongue!
We don't need additional level gating. Thank goodness the level gates we have will be going away.

Books should be readable by anyone at any level and with any set (or lack) of skills.
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Yeah I think item gating is better. If its too game breaking that someone might acquire some perk early game then we can make it more challenging to acquire some part you need to craft x. So you can craft a gyro copter, good luck finding the "rare gadget" needed to craft it.

 
There are zero requirements. Every time I started thinking "you know this is pretty cool perk, it should have some requirements" I came back to the realization that it takes away from the design which was to give players something useful but not OP to collect from book stores with a cool bonus after collecting them all.
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Ohhh okay, i get were are you going with that. But i thought you were trying to add professions to the game, what's you angle on that one?

Yeh, bite your tongue!
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Okay, gimme a sec.

Ouch.

 
Probably better illumination mod or something to that affect.
Thinking we could also have different coloured mods for lights,allow us to customise our beams etc haha.
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Yes. Increases brightness and range. I could have giving it a cool name like Super Bright, but it just has a boring name until MM or whoever decides on the real names.

Colors? We could. Maybe later.

 
With the addition of RWG rivers will we be seeing powered and unpowered water vehicles?

I can imagine paddle trikes, paddle boards, row boats, jetskis, motorboats, even military boats with turret guns mounted to the front.

 
With the addition of RWG rivers will we be seeing powered and unpowered water vehicles?
I can imagine paddle trikes, paddle boards, row boats, jetskis, motorboats, even military boats with turret guns mounted to the front.
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Man, as much as I would like to see any of that, they really need to fix water first. I see that as among their most broken systems at the moment, and sincerely looking forward to when it is addressed. I wonder if there are any plans for that soon?

 
Ohhh okay, i get were are you going with that. But i thought you were trying to add professions to the game, what's you angle on that one?


Okay, gimme a sec.

Ouch.
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Professions are a lofty idea but at the end of the day I think most players just want "play style" and no one pre-canned character can encompass that. So build your own character with perks and play style you choose. If the books entice you go find them they let you specialize a bit more. You can sell them or read them. I think they are good enough most people will read them and maybe even trade sell with other players as finding that full set could prove challenging with RNG.

 
With the addition of RWG rivers will we be seeing powered and unpowered water vehicles?
I can imagine paddle trikes, paddle boards, row boats, jetskis, motorboats, even military boats with turret guns mounted to the front.
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Not in A18.

 
Yes. Increases brightness and range. I could have giving it a cool name like Super Bright, but it just has a boring name until MM or whoever decides on the real names.
Colors? We could. Maybe later.
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Are they gonna work like weapon mods so we can see the modifications? That way we can armor plate the vehicles, add spikes, etc? (for modding, maybe not for vanilla)

 
Man, as much as I would like to see any of that, they really need to fix water first. I see that as among their most broken systems at the moment, and sincerely looking forward to when it is addressed. I wonder if there are any plans for that soon?
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Yes we need to fix the water. We have the talent now, its just a matter of priorities. Occlusion bugs and performance first, then water, uvs, linear space lighting, hdrp, shadergraph etc.

 
Professions are a lofty idea but at the end of the day I think most players just want "play style" and no one pre-canned character can encompass that. So build your own character with perks and play style you choose. If the books entice you go find them they let you specialize a bit more. You can sell them or read them. I think they are good enough most people will read them and maybe even trade sell with other players as finding that full set could prove challenging with RNG.
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Ty for explaining!

 
Professions are a lofty idea but at the end of the day I think most players just want "play style" and no one pre-canned character can encompass that. So build your own character with perks and play style you choose. If the books entice you go find them they let you specialize a bit more. You can sell them or read them. I think they are good enough most people will read them and maybe even trade sell with other players as finding that full set could prove challenging with RNG.
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Joel, will books be numbered? I mean the ability to read books in a certain order. For example, if I found books with numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, then I can read only book with number 1 and cannot read other books until I find book with number 2. Something like volumes. If you do not know what happened in the past volume, you will not be able to understand what the next volume is talking about.

 
@MadMole I am glad that the water will be worked on, it really needs to.. any ideas yet on how the water phisics will work yet?
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I'm pushing for no water physics and just a water plane. Imagine you dig into the lake border, the water will just expand to the next voxel with a spline like shape. This would be extremely fast. I need to talk to the engineers though to see how good this would be. SOmething like minecraft would be a fallback plan but that brings in a lot of ugly to solve.

 
Joel, will books be numbered? I mean the ability to read books in a certain order. For example, if I found books with numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, then I can read only book with number 1 and cannot read other books until I find book with number 2. Something like volumes. If you do not know what happened in the past volume, you will not be able to understand what the next volume is talking about.
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Im thinking that would be overcomplicating it. Probably more like each time you read a volume it will tick a list of required books. When all ticks are accomplished/read it would unlock the ability to read the last book.

It would kind of suck to get volume 7 day one and have to wait days or weeks to read it.

 
Joel, will books be numbered? I mean the ability to read books in a certain order. For example, if I found books with numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, then I can read only book with number 1 and cannot read other books until I find book with number 2. Something like volumes. If you do not know what happened in the past volume, you will not be able to understand what the next volume is talking about.
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They do have volumes, but there is no restriction in what order you read them. Contextually it makes sense because most are stand alone topics that don't build on a previous volume at all.

 
Im thinking that would be overcomplicating it. Probably more like each time you read a volume it will tick a list of required books. When all ticks are accomplished/read it would unlock the ability to read the last book.
It would kind of suck to get volume 7 day one and have to wait days or weeks to read it.
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There is no "last book", its just a perk that is granted after reading all the volumes, like you pieced it together in your own mind after reading all of the others.

 
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