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Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!

  • A18 Stable is Out!

    Votes: 2 66.7%

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    Votes: 1 33.3%
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For the "outdoor zombie spawn event system", or however the mechanic is called, I would be happy if the game keeps track of the groups to spawn in a meta way. Such that when revisiting an area, the same group of zombies would spawn, if not killed.
It would feel much less artificially spawned, if those groups have some degree of persistence.

A record in memory is way cheaper than actual instances of NPCs.

Those "virtual" groups can then also slowly traverse the map in a random direction (re-spawning at those positions when close by).

Sending those records (group-type, position, direction, state) in list over the network would also be quite compact.

In the end, it would make the world more believable than pure random spawns. ("I saw a horde on the south side of the map, lets see if its still there, or moved on")

... better than "ok, the game decided to spawn in a horde randomly here, lets avoid it, it will vanish when I come back"
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But then its not a random event system its just more spawning. It needs to be cleared out so that cpu/max alive can give the next guy his event which might need to be pretty big if he's GS 300 and 4 guys. They need a mini horde. It could probably have a small window where you could go back, but not too long, zombies roam off, etc. We have to be thinking about the next guys event who's ready for one, not cling to the wandering horde a guy ran away from. That is the only way it can be performant is to clear it out once chunks are unloaded or the timer has passed.

 
@Madmole
By the way, I put a lot more thought in to one of our conversations we had.

I said I would get back to you if I ever come up with a good counter arguement. Well after hours of sitting here looking at your response, realism trumps fun, for hours and giving it a lot of thought. I have finally come up with one. Although I would not consider it a counter arguement instead, more of a description of that which is to come. This understanding will result in your original assertion, which still holds strong and hole proof, no longer being relevant. This opens the imagination up to think of all the untapped possibilities.

I don't want to state it publically because.. ...possibility of profit, truth be told...

If you ever end up having 5 minutes free one day hit me up, I'm interested in hearing what you think of my rebuttal.

The scenario and discription I finally came up with I think will impress you, that is unless you have a counter arguement that pokes holes in it again lol. If thats the case then I would only need 2 minutes of your time lol.

Private Message: https://7daystodie.com/forums/member.php?160813-ZombieSurvivor

Discord: ..ZombieSurvivor..#1423
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Now is not a good time, crunching for release! I'm only here because I'm cooking a build then I'm testing :)

 
Some borders are better left uncrossed!! ;)
Cheers

-edit- aaah ♥♥♥ it. The border has been breached now anyways. American "foot"-ball should be called handball as 99% doesnt involve a foot by any means. And since you're playing handball over there, even our women dont wear any full blown armor while playing handball. "Tough" guys those american handball players ;)
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Hey I'm not arguing for American football, I'm arguing against world soccer. :-)

... Both are boring as f*** to me.

 
oh Christ this argument is back...... FFS.......
A18 is almost upon us!! MM said LBD is deader than the Zombies in the game yet it keeps coming up....
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I'm sorry I have bad news, Guppy has contracted a condition known as Orseyitis. It is when dead horse are beaten repeatedly thinking somehow they will reanimate like a zombie and cause a game design apocalypse.

 
Just an idea for the Fun Pimps
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I'm glad Madmole responded to this because I, and I imagine many others glossed over it being just a YouTube link with no idea what it was and I love the idea. Unique boss zombies that fit their respective POIs lorewise would be really cool. Especially if their location was randomized so you had no idea exactly where they may be each time you go in.

 
Didn't know you didn't read PM's, so I'll copy/paste it here.
"Thanks Joel, I'm having the worse day in a very very long time, but reading your posts make it a lot better, thanks man, I owe you one." Trankitas

Thanks a lot MadMole, you're a great guy.
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Awesome I have no time for PMs. Or PMS.

 
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It's a madmole crab?

 
I'm glad Madmole responded to this because I, and I imagine many others glossed over it being just a YouTube link with no idea what it was and I love the idea. Unique boss zombies that fit their respective POIs lorewise would be really cool. Especially if their location was randomized so you had no idea exactly where they may be each time you go in.
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It would also compliment the new Dynamic Music System. Having a special 7D2D theme song play whenever the boss spawns and starts the chase after the player. I like the idea of an iconic 7D2D boss character.

 
Streamers will get it 10/4 and public on 10/6 or 7 as long as nothing nasty crops up on the weekend.
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I know my vote counts for exactly Jack Squat - but a public 10/6 release would be flipping awesome!

 
One of the things I loved the most about A17 was the Fates Motel and Evil Dead house. Is there any new iconic POIs that we might recognize from PoP culture in A18?
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Not sure, I think it was a lot of rework and all the new stuff is remnants so they look like busted up burnt smashed places for the most part. Some remnant stores too which are super cool. Some you can loot in about 30 seconds but wait... did you miss something?

 
UFC until they go to the ground. Then I fast forward.
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Only a few are exciting when it goes to the ground. Black beast if he's on top always ground and pounds his victims to death, and Khabib is brutal AF. I can't stand coasters who lay and pray and just control a better striker for 5 minutes, and I hate crooked refs who stand them up when "their guy" is on bottom like this weekend. A few submission artists are exciting on the ground, like the guys that have high choke out rates if they get behind you its almost always over, those are fun. Soften them up with some punches clinch the neck, its over.

 
UFC until they go to the ground. Then I fast forward.
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I see.

I had a professor who said that the Romans were the ones who knew how to do sport. He said that golf would be much more fun if you had to hit the ball before some guy with a sword chopped off your arm.

 
I'm glad Madmole responded to this because I, and I imagine many others glossed over it being just a YouTube link with no idea what it was and I love the idea. Unique boss zombies that fit their respective POIs lorewise would be really cool. Especially if their location was randomized so you had no idea exactly where they may be each time you go in.
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i wished i had that courage GOOD Job m8

(but to be fair if i did that and showed Joel some of my ideas that poor man would probably GO crazy lol)

 
I'm sorry I have bad news, Guppy has contracted a condition known as Orseyitis. It is when dead horse are beaten repeatedly thinking somehow they will reanimate like a zombie and cause a game design apocalypse.
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Damn it, I may be partially to blame for this. See I found this book called the Necronomicon and ever since I have been trying to read it out loud. Sometimes I mess up a word or two here and there.

Was wondering what effect that would have.

 
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