PC A21 Thoughts... not enough of a game

To echo others, the only way I know how to keep a game fresh after a 1000hrs is to make new custom maps, or include new mods.

To say this isn't much of a game is a syntax error on your part. If it wasn't much of a game I can guarantee you that you wouldn't have more hours invested in this playthrough than it takes to complete most AAA rpgs.

 
Then there is farming, where even with books/perks, it just is still not viable to really live off the land?


Then there is mathematics that shows that Living of the Land 1 is perfectly viable with an average gain of 1.5 plants per farm plot.

Is that a really really good return? No, neither is the return of miner69er 1 or the wrenching perk at 1. Lotl1 is poor man's farming just like miner69er 1 is poor man's mining and wrenching 1 is poor man's wrenching.

 
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Then there is farming, where even with books/perks, it just is still not viable to really live off the land?


The fact that you said this makes me wonder if you even farm in the game.

SP:  One perk in LoTL, harvest and only plant seeds you find or buy from trader, you can still use it to greatly supplement your food source in the game.

 
2 or 3 hour days?


60 min days, mostly melee too. Rarely ever use a gun before horde night unless I need to kill a doggo, or something. Using ammo on slow walking low hp zombies is just a waste of ammo for guns. I do use archery thou mostly for sneak attack 1 shots. I run a str build, Don't usually touch another stat till my str is like 7. Pummel pete, miner 69'er and motherload are the main skills I up with 1 in master chef for the craft time reduction, usually 1 in the attack speed perk too. I don't get any gun skills are they aren't really needed till ferals are everywhere. Usually by day 3-4 I have a decent baseball bat and 5+ str, and can generally 2 shot non-fat zombies with headshots with melee on warrior difficulty. T3-4 quests start giving t3-5 steel clubs and tools, I don't worry much aboyt armor padded armor works even during the feral stages in vanilla, Though I do use heavier armor once I get the book so the movement speed reduction is removed in combat. Armor slows you down way to much in 7dtd that its silly. With the crit system I much prefer to be fast and avoid hits than take them.

The fact that you said this makes me wonder if you even farm in the game.

SP:  One perk in LoTL, harvest and only plant seeds you find or buy from trader, you can still use it to greatly supplement your food source in the game.


Thats what I do, I get 1 in LotL and thats it, Corn seed's are everywhere, those animal feed pallete things in farms give 1-6 corn seeds each. I do wish Lotl 1 would lower the cost to make seeds so you could make 1 seed from 1 harvested crop and have at least 1 crop profit.

 
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Grats for beating vanilla. You have unlocked mod support and should now try one of the big overhauls.

Find one that looks like it could be fun, watch a review to confirm and then play it locally or on a server.

Have fun with the bonus content.

 
60 min days, mostly melee too.
Okies; all of that sounds quite similar to myself, you might be pushing just that little bit faster to get the "Some BIS" a little earlier - I had to check your original comment as the guy who quote you sounded like you claimed "full BIS" .. "some" by d8 is well reachable :)

 
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