PC A20 - Leveling is now pointless

Let's all keep the focus on the game. There is no need for trash talk or insults.
sorry Roland, I never did get personal, I always kept it strictly between us.

words can be sometimes deceiving but I never meant any disrespect , but this guy quoting my gf and talking trash doesn't make justice..

but ill ignore  him since he don't have anything valuable to say anyways.

 
Levity Break.

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A man is floating in a hot air balloon, totally lost. He sees another man working out in a field, and decides to float down to ask this gent for some help.

"Excuse me mate - Could you tell me where I am?" He calls out.

"Sure - You're in a hot air balloon, about five metres off the ground!" the man on the ground replies.

Bemused and nonplussed, the man in the hot air balloon yells back "Well that's was completely useless. You must be an engineer, technically correct, but you've missed the point of my question".

The engineer on the ground replies "Ah, you must be a middle manager".

Now curious, the manager queries "I am, but how did you guess?"

"Well, you had a problem. Rather than ask me directly to solve your problem, you asked me a question without context, and I answered it correctly. Now, you still have a problem, but some how it's my fault!".

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You can be cynical, and read it as a dig. You can be naive, and assume I'm just trying to lighten the atmosphere here. But this whole experience is a reminder to me that knowledge is easy. I came into this knowing that it was going to devolve into a mud slinging match several days ago. I knew I shouldn't respond. I knew he had gotten my goat, and that I chose to respond out of emotion. I also knew that he was technically incorrect, and that he was making invalid appeals to authority (And he did it again, referring to himself as a manager of 126 employees). I also knew that he would keep saying "You're missing my point" while misunderstanding my rebuttal, and/or selectively quoting my posts...

And knowing all that, I wanted my goat back, so I said something. And now I am reminded that knowing is easy. Wisdom - applying what you know in the face of emotion, is very tough. And if you will excuse my indirect humblebrag and appeal to authority... I knew all this 2 years ago, when I stepped down from being an executive, to choose a job that had no managerial responsibilities.

When I first became an executive, my leadership coach said to me - "Emotional regulation is the most important skill of a manager. The more senior you are, the more people will look to the tiniest of clues to try to read your mind. There is a true story of a Chief Executive Officer, who played tennis right before a presentation from a specialist technician. Just as the technician cracked a joke, a pulled muscle from the tennis match made the CEO wince... The specialist technician saw, and as soon as he finished his presentation, he went to a quiet room to and started drafting his apology and resignation to his own manager..."

Emotional regulation is hard, but is the most important skill of a manager. But managers are most often promoted because they are the most experienced or the most competent person to do the job they are managing. As a result, the team loses a competent individual contributor, and gains an incompetent manager. It's called the Peter Principle - Started off as a joke, but now taken pretty seriously: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

So... Reminder to self, and perhaps a reminder to everyone else - If you think you shouldn't, don't.

 
And I bought the game same as them.. what’s your point? 
My point is you not counting them as supporters.

that is because your comments are directed to my GF and not to me or the game.. 
When it was YOU that brought your GF into this, using her as some sort of "expert" to reinforce your point then it is perfectly valid to use the actual facts of her experience vs the experience needed to code a game being different.

 
Okey dokey...just to comment to the OP in this meandering thread...

If I had a complaint about loot progression (which I do not!), it would be that, contrary to the OP's experience, I'm finding all kinds of useful and necessary items early game that I never used to. I get my beaker from the trader after 10 quests, found tons of schematics in (as stated earlier) in trash heaps, and better tools and weapons in general than I remember ever finding this early in A19.

Either way, I've paid way more for way less game and this one keeps me coming back (steam tells me I've wasted almost 9 months at this game --->7000 hours since A15 or so)

 
Broadly speaking, yes! "Random" numbers in programming are almost always pseudo-random, based on a seed value. If you know the seed value, you can determine the sequence of "random" numbers that will result. In nearly all applications where randomness is required, this is sufficient. If you:

  1. Know the seed
  2. Know the exact algorithm used to produce 'random' numbers
  3. Know the probabilities for all potential loot items in all containers you want to search
Then you could deterministically work your way through a game looting exactly the right containers at exactly the right time to get the "best" loot for each search.


Reminds me of why my father had me tie the system time in as the "seed" when setting up a random number generator program for giggles using Basic. Without the floating starting point the resulting sequence was exactly the same every time the program was run.

 
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Okey dokey...just to comment to the OP in this meandering thread...

If I had a complaint about loot progression (which I do not!), it would be that, contrary to the OP's experience, I'm finding all kinds of useful and necessary items early game that I never used to. I get my beaker from the trader after 10 quests, found tons of schematics in (as stated earlier) in trash heaps, and better tools and weapons in general than I remember ever finding this early in A19.

Either way, I've paid way more for way less game and this one keeps me coming back (steam tells me I've wasted almost 9 months at this game --->7000 hours since A15 or so)
I will say in my 3 runs (SP and MP) of A20 I haven't found it to be that difficult to find good gear pretty early. Beakers, acid, weapons, ammo, it's all plentiful in my opinion.  And when I want higher level/better stuff I just go to the snow or wasteland.  It may be me getting lucky, but I haven't had much of an issue with stuff.  I mean in my MP server (all vanilla) I have 2 chem stations, and around 20 acid with 6-7 beakers left over. Also, everyone has multiple chem stations, beakers and acid on the server. I haven't purchased a single chem station.  I do buy any beaker and all acid I see at traders and have looted a many of them as well. 

 
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