PC A20 i'm disappointed

U dont get the point, please avoid this thread, is not for you.
Is that your level of discussing?

I get that question to start the launcher every time. But I don't know if this is happening to everyone, I am on a different operating system and I think I have seen someone else not getting this question pop-up on Windows. It may have something to do with old settings in the registry maybe

 
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But Pipe baton is terrible, whoever though about that kind of weapon clearly knows nothing about weapons and fighting. 
It's a Tonfa, it is an actual weapon. Just a pipe aesthetic of it. Also used by modern law enforcement in places. But it's everyone else who doesn't know weapons.

The pipe shotty is useless, why didn't u made a double barrel shotty is beyond me, and the reload animation is painfully slow making such weapon pretty useless.
The pipe pistol suffers the same problem about the reload animation.
Kinda the point of the pipe weapons, to be useless. Double barrel is still in game, just the next tier.. "why not the first tier?" because this is a copy-paste of the blunderbuss which had its functionality pretty balanced already.

The companion dron is 100% pointless, flyng around hiding ur visual ... for what ? ... that drone should not exists in this game.
Work in progress (omg no, the APLHAEXCUSE - if you don't like alpha, wait til gold). for what? Two rows of inventory is quite enough for it to be useful. But sure, let's not develop a game in its alpha phases because Our Royal Highness is displeased.

U know irl u plant a seed and IF it sprouts ... u will grow a plant capable of generating tons of fruis / veggies with tons of seeds!!!
from 1 seed u can grow a farm if u have enough time.


Sounds good.. add a 40-90 day growth cycle depending on plant and we're getting close. Some seasonality and pests and such still required.

And there is no such thing as a "potato seed".
There is. Sure, usually potatoes are cloned from root parts, but the plant does actually flower and produce seeds. But yeh, farming sucks because it doesn't take a third of a year to grow the first crop.

Should i go on with the list of "not good new features" ?
Sure, I might too..? :)

 
I get that option to start the launcher every time. But I don't know if this is happening to everyone, I am on a different operating system and I think I have seen someone else not getting this question pop-up on Windows. It may have something to do with old settings in the registry maybe


If you start the game from the Steam main interface "Play" button, you get the launcher option every time. However, if start it by using the list of recently played games by right-clicking the Steam tray icon, it goes straight into the game. I used to use that method to start a lot of games but the same thing happens with other games that have start options and sometimes I need the start-up choices (ie, starting Ark with or without anti-cheat depending on server, etc) so I broke the habit of using that.

 
If you start the game from the Steam main interface "Play" button, you get the launcher option every time. However, if start it by using the list of recently played games by right-clicking the Steam tray icon, it goes straight into the game. I used to use that method to start a lot of games but the same thing happens with other games that have start options and sometimes I need the start-up choices (ie, starting Ark with or without anti-cheat depending on server, etc) so I broke the habit of using that.


Ah, thanks. On my computer there is no list of recently played games accesible from the tray icon, either a fundamental difference or maybe a specific setting in the options.

Its the same things i said above .... same issue, not all read that, add an in game notification that is where suc info should be!
Again it's common sense.

Yeah i know that, happens to me too, so i learned that i have to put those info where everybody sees them.
Like a big alert popup in the main application page.

And yes RNG is pretty broken in this version. I fear something is not quite right with seeds.

 

I think that communication is fundamental. That will help alot not too see such arguments any more.
But i also understand why there is a manual data-wipe, knowing about such thing will help alot.

Not all A20 features are that bad, some are really cool (as shown in the screen below).
But Pipe baton is terrible, whoever though about that kind of weapon clearly knows nothing about weapons and fighting. 
The pipe shotty is useless, why didn't u made a double barrel shotty is beyond me, and the reload animation is painfully slow making such weapon pretty useless.
The pipe pistol suffers the same problem about the reload animation.
The pipe machinegun is way too op, and makes the ak useless (1 pipe and u r repaired ... more less same damage) Why didn't u made the pipe machinegun .... an semi-automatic smg (u know automatic weaps are really hard to make)

The companion dron is 100% pointless, flyng around hiding ur visual ... for what ? ... that drone should not exists in this game.

The new building integrity is just terrible, if 1 ledge breaks all the building collapses.... why ? Just propagate the collapse on "red/orange" integrity voxels ... and not through all the building. 

Farming ... who the hell decided the new farming system ?
U know irl u plant a seed and IF it sprouts ... u will grow a plant capable of generating tons of fruis / veggies with tons of seeds!!!
from 1 seed u can grow a farm if u have enough time.
And there is no such thing as a "potato seed".

Should i go on with the list of "not good new features" ?

And here is the promised screen, the new skin lighting system at it's best (don get me wrong the idea is cool, but u have more important stuff to fix before those worthless aestethics)
 

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What theFlu said.

And regarding the SI issue, I'm not aware that there has been a change in how collapsing works. But there seems to be a bug that makes buildings collapse even though they are structurally sound because updates to SI sometimes don't register

 
Is that your level of discussing?

I get that question to start the launcher every time. But I don't know if this is happening to everyone, I am on a different operating system and I think I have seen someone else not getting this question pop-up on Windows. It may have something to do with old settings in the registry maybe
1 yes i prefere not to talk with ppl that cannot se the point. Simple.
2 yes maybe some configuration issue or difference, that's is why "put the message in the main page of the game" is the perfect place, every player will get that, no excuses whatsoever then.

It's a Tonfa, it is an actual weapon. Just a pipe aesthetic of it. Also used by modern law enforcement in places. But it's everyone else who doesn't know weapons.

Kinda the point of the pipe weapons, to be useless. Double barrel is still in game, just the next tier.. "why not the first tier?" because this is a copy-paste of the blunderbuss which had its functionality pretty balanced already.

Work in progress (omg no, the APLHAEXCUSE - if you don't like alpha, wait til gold). for what? Two rows of inventory is quite enough for it to be useful. But sure, let's not develop a game in its alpha phases because Our Royal Highness is displeased.

Sounds good.. add a 40-90 day growth cycle depending on plant and we're getting close. Some seasonality and pests and such still required.

There is. Sure, usually potatoes are cloned from root parts, but the plant does actually flower and produce seeds. But yeh, farming sucks because it doesn't take a third of a year to grow the first crop.

Sure, I might too..? :)
Are u still here trying to be the hero?
100% disagree with u on mostly all of your points.

1 - the weap is of course in use with law enforcement... but they use a well crafted "baton" not a crappy pipe assembly that is totally unreliable. And they dont use it like u see in the game either. A simple ppipe "stick" would have been simpler to design and animate correctly.
Have u ever used one of those, or a stick or a weapon in general ?  (i'm curious)

2 - if they r useless why invest time on that ? It's a waste of time / money and player time.  U see u contradict yourself at every step u fall even on your own logic.

3 - so it' just a lazy remodel and add re-animate and paste over of the good "buss" so -> totally worthless.

4 - not even commenting on that one, as that sentence is as meaningful as a pipe baton

5 - THERE ARE NO POTATO SEEDS -> https://www.thespruce.com/what-are-seed-potatoes-4120142

I'm not saying i need a full farming simulator, but the A19 was already good enough for the game, the A20 is .... [dont force me to use bad words here]

What theFlu said.

And regarding the SI issue, I'm not aware that there has been a change in how collapsing works. But there seems to be a bug that makes buildings collapse even though they are structurally sound because updates to SI sometimes don't register


I tested some building collpase in CM .... and it's terrible, i had to do that, cause in a real run a had a building to collapse 10 mins b4 the horde only for removing 1 block from a well supported bridge
That building was well supported on 4 pillars and a house.... so i went to test and every time i did the same, the building collpased cause of the collapse of the "bridge" for ... reasons.
Maybe i will produce a video about that if i will have time.
 

 
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Have u ever used one of those, or a stick or a weapon in general ?  (i'm curious)
Hey, we're keyboard warrioring here, I can tell you with confidentiatility that I have over 300 confirmed kills, am a member of an elite trained SEAL group and.. no I'm not going to the death threat portions of that particular meme, you might get offended.. :) A little more seriously, yeh, I've trained a few different types of sticks, bo, jo, kali sticks etc, among with a few other weaponry analogues. Makes absolutely no difference though.. the pipe baton is just a game version of an actual weapon, pretty much like every other weapon in the game.. none of them are real nor functional.

2 - if they r useless why invest time on that ? It's a waste of time / money and player time. 
Indeed. I don't invest in them. But there's an actual argument to be made, instead of just telling TFP to discard couple decades of labor because you don't like the current iteration.

3 - so it' just a lazy remodel and add re-animate and paste over of the good "buss" so -> totally worthless.
Indeed, the pipe weapons are weak enough to be considered rather useless. The main thing they do offer for anyone competent is a slight ability for burst damage when useful. Turn a 3v1 to a 2v1, one shotgun shell is plenty for that.

4 - not even commenting on that one
Not even commenting on playing an Alpha and complaining about it being an Alpha. I am not surprised; mildly amused, thank you for that, but not exactly surprised.

5 - THERE ARE NO POTATO SEEDS ->
THERE INDEED ARE POTATO SEEDS -> https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/potato/true-potato-seed-growing.htm

Copy-pasting a random article, like yourself. Seemed to support my position.

 
Hey, we're keyboard warrioring here, I can tell you with confidentiatility that I have over 300 confirmed kills, am a member of an elite trained SEAL group and.. no I'm not going to the death threat portions of that particular meme, you might get offended.. :) A little more seriously, yeh, I've trained a few different types of sticks, bo, jo, kali sticks etc, among with a few other weaponry analogues. Makes absolutely no difference though.. the pipe baton is just a game version of an actual weapon, pretty much like every other weapon in the game.. none of them are real nor functional.

Indeed. I don't invest in them. But there's an actual argument to be made, instead of just telling TFP to discard couple decades of labor because you don't like the current iteration.
I did not asked ur life-story ... as could not care less who the f u r. As the same is for you regarding me.
So yeah u had some training, and if that animation doesn't makes your eyes bleed i have to assume that u r just sharing yout COD stats.
(kali is just a BS circus cool to see btw like looking at medioeval jester)
 

Indeed, the pipe weapons are weak enough to be considered rather useless. The main thing they do offer for anyone competent is a slight ability for burst damage when useful. Turn a 3v1 to a 2v1, one shotgun shell is plenty for that.
If something is bad ... is bad ... and if it does not work, yes trash it and start over.
Sometimes happens and realizing a mistake is not a bad thing.

Indeed, the pipe weapons are weak enough to be considered rather useless. The main thing they do offer for anyone competent is a slight ability for burst damage when useful. Turn a 3v1 to a 2v1, one shotgun shell is plenty for that.
Stop trying to crawl on mirrors. If an item is useless, there not even little use as u pretend convince yourself.

Not even commenting on playing an Alpha and complaining about it being an Alpha. I am not surprised; mildly amused, thank you for that, but not exactly surprised.
Again the "alpha shield"

Release    

    Microsoft Windows, OS X
    December 13, 2013

It's 2021....  Star Citizen is in alpha by less time.
 

Copy-pasting a random article, like yourself. Seemed to support my position.
No it's the opposite it's not a "radom article" is the truth, like sayin water is wet.
If u cannot see the truth not my problem. But dont spread BS please. THERE ARE NO "POTATO SEED"

P.S. it's becoming pointless to talk to u too, like the other dude. U dont get the point.
So gl with your COD playthrough.
 

 
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as could not care less who the f u r.
Then why did you ask? Just to imply I have no idea of stick weapons? Not trolling he says.

and if that animation doesn't makes your eyes bleed i have to assume
The animation could be improved, sure, but the swings taken aren't exactly impossible. The "spin around the handle" is silly, more of a provocation than anything else, but hey, it's a game. Calling it trash and commanding a redo without any input on what or how to improve isn't exactly helpful though.

If an item is useless, there not even little use as u pretend convince yourself.
They are intentionally "useless"; as in, they're designed Not to be your main weapon. No matter how much you try to convince yourself that removing a head from a zombie isn't useful, the reality will disagree.

No it's the opposite it's not a "radom article" is the truth, like sayin water is wet.
If u cannot see the truth not my problem. But dont spread BS please. THERE ARE NO "POTATO SEED"
No, no, MY article is the actual word of God, yours is just some pagan worshipping troll propaganda. Or, like I said, the normal way to farm spuds is via clones, but the plant indeed does produce seeds. Just because you can't be arsed to read anything, doesn't mean you're right... :)

 
It is up to TFP how long they want to be in Alpha.  We purchased the game knowing it was in Alpha with no released date stated; but they have constantly updated the game since 2013 and pushing for final release after a few more development cycles.  While it has been a long time, 3k+ hours means it has been money well spent on my part.

As theFlu mentioned, using pipe weapons have benefits in the early game.  Having a pipe pistol on my toolbelt allowed me to unload into a zombie when I was low on health and waiting on stamina to recharge.  It was the only thing that saved me at that point.

Just because some people find them useless doesn't make it universal.  I been enjoying having those pipe weapons early game to use the ammo I have been finding to get out of sticky situations.  If you don't want the pipe weapons, journey into the harder biomes to get your loot stage to jump up faster and you will start to find T1 weapons.

 
Then why did you ask? Just to imply I have no idea of stick weapons? Not trolling he says.
If u cannot understand a simple question like "Are you trained" and then answer with a simple answer like "yes" it's your problem.
So you just proved a lot of my points, explicit and implicit thank you.

To conclude thank for proving that you are unable to understand, and if can't understand ... why do i have to bother wasting time.
Goodbye and have a nice day.
 

 
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why do i have to bother wasting time.
Yeh, I mean, reading information opposing one's absolute pure knowledge is indeed a waste of time. None of us have anything to learn, ever again. But hey, have a nice New Year :)

 
v101 said:
I am lost for words
This should have been your first sign that you shouldn't post. You have literally nothing useful to say; this isn't a topic. Come back when you want to post something discussable (whether it's negative or not).

 
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A lot of people thinking the vehicle moving is a bug. It's actually garden gnomes...

Step 1: Steal bike
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit

 

 
U dont get the point, please avoid this thread, is not for you.
Love your attitude.

I get your point. You propose that TFPs put the instructions on the proper way to install new alphas IN-GAME. 

You don't think it would be odd to open the game to get the instructions (what write them down or take a pic of your screen?) to clean your old game data? 

Is it not easier to have info on Steam or another website that you could have open to read while you install?

 
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