PC A20 Developer Diary Discussions

Khalagar said:
Well yeah you could plan around them to a degree, just like you plan around demolishers, vultures, cops, regular zombies etc. But it would add an interesting and dangerous element to base designs and horde nights, and you'd have an extra resource tax for spikes, and have the risk of the zombies taking out your spikes etc. They could also make webs coat spikes too and make them safer to climb over

ATM spider zombie is by far the least unique special zombie and is only annoying because it's mildly harder to hit. The web idea would be pretty neat and create very memorable horde nights where you were standing on a roof shooting away at zombies when suddenly they started swarming up one side or got to an upper floor you weren't expecting them to get to etc
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Well this was pretty often when you create big base in the past when zombie just take out only one "road" thought spike. And honestly  this wasn't fun. just annoying -because you could do  4*5*50 spikes and... they go just throught one way. like if they were not zombie but zergs from starcraft. 

Btw- i don't think this can work you know psychic etc. This same like problem with "grapping" zombies like charge or jockey from l4d2. So what i suggest? Gigant zombie similar to gigant boss from resident evil 4, maybe variation on witch from l4d2, zombies with guns similar to s.t.a.l.k.e.r. , riot zombies ( heavy tank), maybe something similiar to fat coop but focused on infection etc. Honestly idk what  kind of setting devs want to keep:  serious( days gone, the last of us for example) or gore ( resident evil series, nza, cod after BO1) or  mad max. Because diffrent setting can have diffrent types of zombie - i can explain on priv if you want know what i mean

 
Large than man sized entities and pathing seem to be their white whale, I don't see it happening anytime soon.  I believe that's why they dropped the abonimati...er, behemoth.

 
Guppycur said:
Large than man sized entities and pathing seem to be their white whale, I don't see it happening anytime soon.  I believe that's why they dropped the abonimati...er, behemoth.
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 shame, i understand that because so big enemy could be problem - but honestly small number of  zombie types suit into 7dtd unfortunatly. No charhe, hunter can be add, nothing controversial etc

 
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havent had a chance to catch up on the dev streams.  Has there been any mentions about caves or other underground features being a part of the released game?

Apologies if this has already been covered somewhere else recently.

Thanks

 
Fanatical_Meat said:
Would forcing the game to run on physical cores or select cores inprove

performance as opposed to letting it run on any of the 16 cores when unity only needs a few cores to run.
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It depends on your computer. If your GPU usage is not at or near 100% usage, you can most likely increase performance by forcing 7DTD to run on 4 cores. Doing this, I'll see about a 20% increase in GPU usage and FPS. First I tried running it on my 4 fastest cores. But I got the best results by running it on 4 cores from only one XCC, the XCC with my fastest core. You can find out which cores are fastest and how many XCC's you have with Ryzen Master.

 
littlegreen said:
I normally get "Access Denied" when trying to set process affinity in windows task manager... even though I am the PC admin... any work around that?

EDIT: Nevermind, I've got it.

For the other people that are having this issue:

1. Right click on Taskbar.

2. Click on Task Manager.

3. Search for the process 7dtd.exe

4. Right click on it and click on Properties.

5. Click on Security tab and click on Edit.

6. Then give full permission to the Administrator. (Or your current user account)
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Doing it through task manager while the game is running won't work if you're running Eac. You can set up a desktop shortcut which launches the game with the specified affinity that will work with eac. I cover the details on that in the conclusion of the affinity benchmarks I did here

 
Khalagar said:
Well yeah you could plan around them to a degree, just like you plan around demolishers, vultures, cops, regular zombies etc. But it would add an interesting and dangerous element to base designs and horde nights, and you'd have an extra resource tax for spikes, and have the risk of the zombies taking out your spikes etc. They could also make webs coat spikes too and make them safer to climb over

ATM spider zombie is by far the least unique special zombie and is only annoying because it's mildly harder to hit. The web idea would be pretty neat and create very memorable horde nights where you were standing on a roof shooting away at zombies when suddenly they started swarming up one side or got to an upper floor you weren't expecting them to get to etc
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That depends on what type of base you build. For example f you have a base with the players on largely the same level but distanced by gaps then the spider can provide a challenge. 

bdubyah said:
Who knew simplifying something would be so confusing? 🤣
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Not a surprise when every change prompts an avalanche of fearful questions whether balance will be taken into account or whether change A means also change B,C and D.

TFP: "We changed the grass to look greener"

User1: "Does that mean it will give more food value when I eat it?"

User2: "Won't that upset the balance when zombies are better visible because they are not green at all?"

User3: "Does that mean cars will also look greener? I would not like that to be honest"

User4: "Green? How absurd is that. Can we have a grass detector now?"

😆

TFP: "Oh, we forgot to say that because of this we removed the sky, we needed the texture space"

😆😆

 
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new7daylive said:
havent had a chance to catch up on the dev streams.  Has there been any mentions about caves or other underground features being a part of the released game?

Apologies if this has already been covered somewhere else recently.

Thanks
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There will be (maybe relatively small?) sewers under the cities in the new RWG. In A20. It is just my assumption that they will expand on that feature in A21 (and what they won't get done, modders wll do)

 
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meganoth said:
There will be (maybe relatively small?) sewers under the cities in the new RWG. In A20. It is just my assumption that they will expand on that feature in A21 (and what they won't get done, modders wll do)
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Let's clarify that sewers in A20 will be part of POIs so they won't span entire towns or connect multiple POIs.

 
meganoth said:
That depends on what type of base you build. For example f you have a base with the players on largely the same level but distanced by gaps then the spider can provide a challenge. 

Not a surprise when every change prompts an avalanche of fearful questions whether balance will be taken into account or whether change A means also change B,C and D.

TFP: "We changed the grass to look greener"

User1: "Does that mean it will give more food value when I eat it?"

User2: "Won't that upset the balance when zombies are better visible because they are not green at all?"

User3: "Does that mean cars will also look greener? I would not like that to be honest"

User4: "Green? How absurd is that. Can we have a grass detector now?"

😆

TFP: "Oh, we forgot to say that because of this we removed the sky, we needed the texture space"

😆😆
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this sound fun but .... even small change can do a lot -  if they decided to add  zombie in ghilled suit spawning in forest biome (let's say he looks almost invisible lying on long grass) change of grass can make him useless or even less visibile. 

If they decided to change water it can create questions like : can zombie respawn in water? 

This sound like small thing but sometimes could this happens

 
jorbascrumps said:
Let's clarify that sewers in A20 will be part of POIs so they won't span entire towns or connect multiple POIs.
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They could connect multiple POIs, I think. One tile has multiple POIs and if you can customize the restriction on which POIs can go there then you could create POIs that have sewer "attachments" in standard places so they would all be interconnected. Within a tile. A tile is 150x150, and that's a lot of space.

 
littlegreen said:
I'm not quite sure that's the case at 3440x1440 ... besides, my CPU activity usually resides in the 70% usage area with browsers, Discord and a few other apps open in the background (streaming in Discord as well)... while playing the game.

The thing is, I get more than decent FPS during normal gameplay, but during horde nights with all the models and textures around the bases we build - especially during night, when light reflections factor in etc, frames very often dip down to below 60 which on a 144hz screen does not feel nice...
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i got a 2080 and 3440x1440. MAX settings is around 40-50FPS average and 20 during spikes. Unity just doesn't like Ryzen processors. tested it by just going to another pc with the same card etc but with an i7 equivalent processor, got 20+fps average. its insane 

 
new7daylive said:
havent had a chance to catch up on the dev streams.  Has there been any mentions about caves or other underground features being a part of the released game?

Apologies if this has already been covered somewhere else recently.

Thanks
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They said they need to implement some better terrain editing tools for the level designers to use before they really produce any caves. I dont know if thats actually going to happen but that is what they said.

 
Maxley said:
They said they need to implement some better terrain editing tools for the level designers to use before they really produce any caves. I dont know if thats actually going to happen but that is what they said.
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Was that on last week's dev stream, with the level designers?

 
Astronomical said:
From what I saw it looked like the sewers and spillways were part of the tile itself independent of pois. In this case they could span most of the city.

Maybe @Roland or one of tfps could clarify?
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They could if you make it so sewers would connect in the same way as roads. For example, if your sewers are centered underneath the roads, it's easy. If they are to the side of the roads then you need to place them on both side to account for all rotations. Or you could make it independent of roads if you make them fully connected. For example, imagine tiles always provide a connection on the 4 sides, independently of what the road above looks like.

What you cannot do as far as Kinkyajuu told us is having a sewer grid that connects independently of the road grid above.

Here's a little thought exercise. Suppose you have a city tiled like this:

Code: 
┌ ┬ ┬ ┐
│ ├ ┼ ┤
├ ┼ ┘ ╵
└ ┴ ─ ╴
What kind of sewer arrangement you could make for each tile to make sure they all connect to each other? How bad would it be if a sewer just ends in dirt on the next tile/wilderness?

jorbascrumps said:
Yes. I believe they said that currently they have to place terrain blocks individually so it's a pain.
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Well, maybe underground. On surface there's a couple of tools to easily make mounds and dips, which are available since alpha 18 I think.

 
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Maxley said:
They said they need to implement some better terrain editing tools for the level designers to use before they really produce any caves. I dont know if thats actually going to happen but that is what they said.
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What's a better cave tool than a rocket launcher?  :)

 
He was probably referring to better terrain tools then what we have in the editor today.

Something like this as an example.



 
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