PC A20 Developer Diary Discussions

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1) Careful. If you start ignoring what players want and just do whatever, it will hurt business.
2) When that ability was taken away, Madmole said it was for realism. That he wants the game as real as possible.. Yet, it is realistic that someone could fit through that space.  So which is? Do you want realism or not?

 
#1 if devs added everything ALL the players wanted, the game couldnt be played on normal computers and would incorporate 50 different games... then we are no longer  different.

#2 re-read #1

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Do you know how big a meter is? 3.2 feet.. I am a larger guy and I could easily fit through a 1 meter square space with a big backpack on.
I think the point was that the two ton backpack is so immersion breaking that it's silly to question something like crouching through 1m spaces on the grounds of immersion.  Players can't go through 1m heights for the same reason they can carry two ton backpacks: gameplay.

 
Personally, I would rather 1 meter ingress/egress remain eliminated for everything except crawlers, dogs and other small animals than go back to the head-clipping exploits and the teleport to the surface bug in a 1 m high space.

 
Do you know how big a meter is? 3.2 feet.. I am a larger guy and I could easily fit through a 1 meter square space with a big backpack on.


Are you sure? I mean, it would have to be a HUMONGOUS backpack to fit everything we can put into it. 

1) Careful. If you start ignoring what players want and just do whatever, it will hurt business.


What you want has not been ignored.  It has been fully considered. Carefully.

2) When that ability was taken away, Madmole said it was for realism. That he wants the game as real as possible.. Yet, it is realistic that someone could fit through that space.  So which is? Do you want realism or not?


Not quite. Madmole said it was for level design and appearance as the animations of the time were not good enough to show a character moving through a 1-meter hole without parts of his body and head clipping through the surrounding blocks and it would look bad. I never once heard him say that it was physically impossible for a person in real life to traverse a one meter hole. In fact, we do it all the time vertically with an installed ladder to boot. No.... realism was never the objection. It was 1000s of hours of redoing level design to account for the ability and balance it out and that was when we only had half the POIs we have now.

I think it was awesome too but I really don't see it happening even though with current animations they could probably make it look good.

The good news is that crafty modders will probably be able to extrapolate the ability and give it to player characters once it is in the game so it is very possible that 1-meter hole egress will be a reality at some point.

Personally, I would rather 1 meter ingress/egress remain eliminated for everything except crawlers, dogs and other small animals than go back to the head-clipping exploits and the teleport to the surface bug in a 1 m high space.


This very well may be what it is limited to. Everyone keeps assuming all zombies will be able to do it but I'm pretty sure it will be limited to dogs, crawlers, and maybe the smaller females. Who knows...maybe they will give it to everything. If they don't...modders will be able to include everything and if they do modders will be able to exclude whichever zombies they want.

 
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Ouch Quit It said:
Will weather and temp be fixed in A20. You can be layered up to the max and still be cold...as well as hot in the desert naked.   Also will food be adjusted....feels like my guy is eating for a family of 12 and still hungry all the time.

Coughs * Airport POI * Coughs
I believe weather survival was part of the outfit redesign, which was postponed to a21. As for food... do you lack food? Food is too abundant to me. Also, eating to fullness twice a day is more than enough (60 min days), which is very reasonable.

Then there's all the gaming aspects of both weather and food. For weather, for example, are you using hazmat as armor? Do you have the Well Insulated perk? Drinking coffee or yucca smoothie on the cold? For food, do you drink Red Tea before stamina-intensive tasks? Do you have the Slow Metabolism perk? Do you have ergonomic grips on the weapons and tools you use? Do you use low-stamina weapons and tools?

I don't think the game communicates all these choices very well, and I think they are not well balanced either. The perks are too expensive in my opinion. All other things you can do to offset food and weather issues will only be acquired by the time you don't need to concern yourself with food and weather anyway. In a way, it makes sense since survival should be a struggle early on. On the other hand, the problems caused by food and weather are nowhere near the hassle that is addressing them. It's just easier to drink more water and eat more food.

But I digress. I'm in a mood today. 😕

 
I believe weather survival was part of the outfit redesign, which was postponed to a21. As for food... do you lack food? Food is too abundant to me. Also, eating to fullness twice a day is more than enough (60 min days), which is very reasonable.

Then there's all the gaming aspects of both weather and food. For weather, for example, are you using hazmat as armor? Do you have the Well Insulated perk? Drinking coffee or yucca smoothie on the cold? For food, do you drink Red Tea before stamina-intensive tasks? Do you have the Slow Metabolism perk? Do you have ergonomic grips on the weapons and tools you use? Do you use low-stamina weapons and tools?

I don't think the game communicates all these choices very well, and I think they are not well balanced either. The perks are too expensive in my opinion. All other things you can do to offset food and weather issues will only be acquired by the time you don't need to concern yourself with food and weather anyway. In a way, it makes sense since survival should be a struggle early on. On the other hand, the problems caused by food and weather are nowhere near the hassle that is addressing them. It's just easier to drink more water and eat more food.

But I digress. I'm in a mood today. 😕


This. To me the system is broken... Just eat more food, drink more water.

I can be blinking red all day. as long as the cans of sham (lol) dont run out, its fine...

My proposed fix would be not ideal but easy to implement.

- Yellow sun/snow flake (increased food/water required)

- Red sun/snow flake (food water intake match yellow but now something else should happen) like:

-- HP loss, stam regen, speed (swing slower tools, weapons)

-- death if you dont leave in, 15minutes?

-- heat stroke debuff, treatable with something. if you dont leave for 15minutes

-- frost bite debuff, treatable with something. if you dont leave for 15minutes

as it stands now, its not a threat, at all.

 
I believe weather survival was part of the outfit redesign, which was postponed to a21. As for food... do you lack food? Food is too abundant to me. Also, eating to fullness twice a day is more than enough (60 min days), which is very reasonable.

Then there's all the gaming aspects of both weather and food. For weather, for example, are you using hazmat as armor? Do you have the Well Insulated perk? Drinking coffee or yucca smoothie on the cold? For food, do you drink Red Tea before stamina-intensive tasks? Do you have the Slow Metabolism perk? Do you have ergonomic grips on the weapons and tools you use? Do you use low-stamina weapons and tools?

I don't think the game communicates all these choices very well, and I think they are not well balanced either. The perks are too expensive in my opinion. All other things you can do to offset food and weather issues will only be acquired by the time you don't need to concern yourself with food and weather anyway. In a way, it makes sense since survival should be a struggle early on. On the other hand, the problems caused by food and weather are nowhere near the hassle that is addressing them. It's just easier to drink more water and eat more food.

But I digress. I'm in a mood today. 😕


I agree, with the highlighted above,  especially the perk system. An easy solution that would work very well (YES I am going to beat this dead horse again) is Leveling up by doing. Or at least a hybrid system with what we have now. Level up by doing but get some point(s) to customize your character manually towards perks. Core skills like Tool use, fighting, eating, Type of weapon use, under water breathing etc.. should all be level up by doing. Then when we level up we get points towards stuff like 10% more ore when mining, 50% more damage with headshots etc... This would balance the game out very well IMO.  Current perk system is too expensive,  I always play with 300% XP enabled. I don't have as much time anymore, got kids...

 
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Yeah I know all that but its annoying to see the flashing red all the time....just seems that food decreases ALOT faster than normal....seems like you are binge eating constantly. Kinda annoying.  As for temp...in the snow biome and I have a puffer jacket, overalls, cloth hood with the insulation mod, bandana and a hood ands assorted armor and im cold all the time....Temp has been whacked for several iterations and never seems to get much love......Game has gone backwards over the last few alphas....Same brokenm systems being reworked again and again............sigh.......endless circle it seems

Coughs* Airport  POI * Coughs

 
Yeah I know all that but its annoying to see the flashing red all the time....just seems that food decreases ALOT faster than normal....seems like you are binge eating constantly. Kinda annoying.  As for temp...in the snow biome and I have a puffer jacket, overalls, cloth hood with the insulation mod, bandana and a hood ands assorted armor and im cold all the time....Temp has been whacked for several iterations and never seems to get much love......Game has gone backwards over the last few alphas....Same brokenm systems being reworked again and again............sigh.......endless circle it seems

Coughs* Airport  POI * Coughs


Yea, it can be silly; fully clothed with 50 layers should stop it unless youre wet.

 
12 hours ago, Khalagar said:

We're reaching peak audiences, anime waifu and weebs! More Hololive streaming the game.

it shoudn't : this game should be only knowed by deppresed guys which even WW1 is not deppresing enought. 7dtd must be grimdark and deppresing as hell no weeb stuff

 
hiemfire said:
None of the Pass & Gases in the snow biome on Navezgane match the one in the random gen teaser image posted by faatal.


Hmmm...I wonder if the lights are working in that Pass-n-Gas...? Might need a tweak to the generator. Maybe someone will send somebody over there to do a service call...

Might take a whole crew if....um....you have a crew.

 
Hmmm...I wonder if the lights are working in that Pass-n-Gas...? Might need a tweak to the generator. Maybe someone will send somebody over there to do a service call...
Looking forwards to doing the quest you mention. I did have to go back and edit my post though. The gas station in faatal's teaser image is in game, just not where dcsobral thought it was. They were right and I was wrong, it isn't new for A20.

 
Never let an inside joke outside by explaining it in a parenthetical!!

That's like only wearing one shoe!!
BTW  HOW @madmole COULD ACCEPT ZOMBIES WITH ONE SHOE ONLY??? THIS IS WRONG AHHHH I NEED NOW FIND MY FOLDER WITH PICTURES OF NEWSSTANDS THX FOR THAT! 

 
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