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A19e Nitrogen - UNSTABLE

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So I started looking into Nitrogen to help generate an Alpha 19 Experimental 16k map, but immediately hit a roadblock. I start the .exe file and it gives me the pop up saying I need Java Runtime Environment 1.8 (64-Bit).

I checked the version of Java in Config Java -> About and it says Version 8 Update 251 (build 1.8.0_251-b08)

I check cmd -> Java Version and it says:

java version "1.8.0_251"

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_251-b08)

Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.251-b08, mixed mode, sharing)

I check Microsoft Edge to see if it's a running as 64-bit instead of 32-bit, and it is.

I restarted my computer, and it still keep telling me I need the 1.8 (64-Bit) to open Nitrogen. What do I do?

 
Edge version being 64 bit is nothing to do with the java version. Goto the Java page and download the right version.....

 
Adr said:
Edge version being 64 bit is nothing to do with the java version. Goto the Java page and download the right version.....
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Please read the entirety of what I posted

"I checked the version of Java in Config Java -> About and it says Version 8 Update 251 (build 1.8.0_251-b08)

I check cmd -> Java Version and it says:

java version "1.8.0_251"
Java (TM) SE Runtime Environment (Build 1.8.0_251-b08)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.251-b08, mixed mode, sharing)"

This is after I already downloaded and installed the right version.

 
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I did, The versions don't state whether they are 32 or 64 bit. Only edge is 64bit.

If I misread - my apologies - Just trying to be helpful....

 
Adr said:
I did, The versions don't state whether they are 32 or 64 bit. Only edge is 64bit.

If I misread - my apologies - Just trying to be helpful....
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I brought up the version of edge because it's on the Java site to check the "Internet Explorer" version to know which version of Java to download and to ensure that it's 64-bit version. That's why I found it relevant to bring up as steps I taken to try to figure it out myself.

The main point is, I know for a fact I have the current version, but Nitrogen is still saying I dont have it and I dont know why.

 
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You need to get something like that in the console:

java -version

java version "1.8.0_231"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_231-b11)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.231-b11, mixed mode)

-> 64-Bit Server VM

Go to the java control panel / Java / Runtime Environment settings,

there you can deactivate the 32 bit version.

Otherwise, you could alter the .bat files, and insert the full path to java.exe for your 64 bit version

C:\my64bitjava\bin\java.exe -Xmx8G -jar nitrogen.jar

 
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Damocles said:
You need to get something like that in the console:

java -version

java version "1.8.0_231"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_231-b11)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.231-b11, mixed mode)

-> 64-Bit Server VM

Go to the java control panel / Java / Runtime Environment settings,

there you can deactivate the 32 bit version.

Otherwise, you could alter the .bat files, and insert the full path to java.exe for your 64 bit version

C:\my64bitjava\bin\java.exe -Xmx8G -jar nitrogen.jar
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Is there a way to get that older version of Java then? because the current one that's available on their site is 1.8.0_251 not 1.8.0_231

 
The sub-versions are not really the problem. It should work with any 1.8 version.

You need to just get you machine to start a 64 bit Java, not the 32 bit one, else it cannot assign enough heap-memory.

 
I got it working, thank you.

Next question is: Is there a way to create bigger sizes for biomes instead of just splotches of them across a mostly Grass biome?

 
The snow-north & desert south option, together with a higher mountain and desert setting will give you plenty of larger areas other than the forest biome.

For full control you can edit the biomes.png (and use the biomesfixer tool to ensure a correct imageformat).

Or you can copy over a biomes.png from an RWG generated map of the same size, if you like that kind of style.

 
There any tutorial videos on how to use the Biome fixer to edit them?  We have 3 of us trying to figure it out based on the Readme file and we are struggling here.

 
I feel like people respond a lot quicker here, so.

whats the steamcmd command for a19?

I thought it was this, but im still getting a18

Code: 
app_update 294420 -beta latest_experimental-unstable
 
OhYa said:
I feel like people respond a lot quicker here, so.

whats the steamcmd command for a19?

I thought it was this, but im still getting a18

app_update 294420 -beta latest_experimental-unstable
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I don't recall putting the '-unstable' bit in. Just `app_update 294420 -beta latest_experimental`.
 

That was for a fresh server, first install of a19 so I wasn't trying to update any previous installs etc (if that matters). 

 
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hmmmm, ok, will give that a try, thanks :)
BTW
I made a 8k map in under 2 minutes, but a 16k takes me 22 minutes, didnt test it yet, just found that to be a crazy huge difference

I couldnt imagine how long it would take for the game to build a 16k, ooooff

I'm thinking of trying a 12k to see how that goes 

 
Good luck. I have had some people on my server complain that the trader from the beginning quest appears underground (or 'not where I am standing'). Would be good to hear from someone else if they also have that problem. I created a 4K map with one big city and trader next to city... so hoping there is not a glitch happening there.

 
All those trader not appearing (or underground) bugs are related to loading in old worlds, or worlds using the A18 prefablists.

The trader quests seems to then show a marker at 0,0,0 wich is underground.

The trader names changed, so A18 world will not load any trader POIs, but still run. 

 
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All those trader not appearing (or underground) bugs are related to loading in old worlds, or worlds using the A18 prefablists.

The trader quests seems to then show a marker at 0,0,0 wich is underground.

The trader names changed, so A18 world will not load any trader POIs, but still run. 
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Thanks @Damocles. I used the v0500 version for the a19 gen. I'll check for a newer version. Are you able to give a recommendation on how to fix it for an existing map? Do I just look at the xml files and try and tweak it to move a trader or insert a new one? Sorry I am new to this. I am happy to observe and keep googling to get a fix... or wait for the next time a build requires a save game wipe.

Cheers for the Nitrogen tool, I have had so much fun with it :)

 
This is a "Must Have" tool. I love it because I can get a much better map. I like my maps nice and flat but the in game generator makes all the roads have these sudden changes in height. Love all the options it has too.

The only thing is the Java. I just upgraded my PC and had to get it again and the current version doesn't work. You need jre-8u241-windows-x64.exe 

took me forever to find it because I was looking for Java 1.8 and it's not listed as that.

You should put "jre-8u241-windows-x64.exe" instead of 1.8 when you start it without it, make it less confusing. 

Really nice work though.

 
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Hello, I tried to launch more than 20 maps with different options but it remains blocked each time on (exporting 2/3)




I9 9900 k , 32 go ram , windows 10

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