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A19e Nitrogen - UNSTABLE

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I forgot to thank you, so thank you. I am trying to edit the heightmap and I am editing only the genHM and the poiHM but it does not seem to help. Do I have to edit another one of the images?
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Greetings,

Editing the heightmaps etc. is not my forté, as I have never done it myself. You might wanna take a look at Guppycur's info in this thread and his YouTube channel instead; I believe he delved into that.

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There's even a height map generator, for which warmer posted a link just a page before this one in this thread, if that helps you out.

 
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Hi Damocles,

I would like to make a request if I could. Is there any chance you could add in a feature that would allow custom biomes? They could mirror the stock biomes for building placement and terrain. There are several mods that use them, and this would allow them to use the maps with their mods. Maybe an option to add in a hex color code and then which stock biome to append to that color.

 
Hi, I will spend some more time on NitroGen, once A18 experimental is finally out, as there are certainly several changes to the worldfiles and prefabs.

I originally expected to put some work on it in August, but alas the new version took longer than expected (including TFP)

 
I could be wrong, but I don't think that's dependant on NitroGen, but more on the DF MOD itself. For example, when you create a NitroGen map with the DF POIs, certain DF POIs (the special bunkers, e.g.) will only really appear while playing Darkness Falls, not in other MODs or the vanilla version, even when using the very same NitroGen map, from what I've seen.So if your question really is if it works, then I'd say yes. NitroGen would not create extra biomes for special MOD POIs by itself (at least not yet), as far as I know, and I'd say the condition you mention is linked to the POIs themselves (in conjunction with the MOD), not to the map.
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Thats too bad, some of the Darknes Falls progression items only spawn in special POI's that -only- spawns inside the special radiationwasteland biome in added from the mod.

Would be sweet if it would be possible to add custom biomes to be generated somehow.

 
I dont know if Darknes Falls uses special biome-definitions (the colors on the biomes.png) additional to vanilla. A17 vanilla only know 5 biome-colors.

If its does, you could manually edit in those colors after generating the world.

 
I dont know if Darknes Falls uses special biome-definitions (the colors on the biomes.png) additional to vanilla. A17 vanilla only know 5 biome-colors.
If its does, you could manually edit in those colors after generating the world.
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I use PS/Krita to add them in afterwards, but it take some work to get them right. 18 I heard either raised the numbers of colors or it will be unlimited I think. The biomes rules in the biomes.xml is going to do the rest of the work later, which is why i suggested just appending colors for the biomes.png to existing biomes. You can then match the custom biome to the closest comparable stock biome during generation and it will biomes.xml will do the rest when the map is loaded in the mod.

 
Maybe read the biomes.xml during load to grab any additional colors/biomes and add them to the list?

... depends on how much you want to support modding edge cases (although this is a common one) or just straight vanilla.

 
Its certainly possible to add special cases.

But first I will work on an update to A18, as there are probably several changes to it.

Additional biomes could be also added in a way by another modder for the current version, by editing stamps (colors) such as the "TEST_256_ABS_CraterBiome.png" or "TEST_256_ABS_DESERT_2_Biome.png"

I plant to make the stamps more configurable, so new ones can be added and configured.

Then a modder can add new biome-stamps for specific scenarios such as DF, wich then just needs to be copied into the NitroGen asset folder.

 
When I generate a world I do not have the compo-pack prefab, any reason?I don't know why my road looks a bit weird in town https://imgur.com/a/PbOsywo

I'm using the tool for the first time today, its awesome.
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Make sure you put compopack into your prefabs folder

Use the parser tool to scan the prefabs folder and then edit it the way you want or...

download the prefab lists the McTaco generated.

Place the generated prefablist.txt into X:\thepathto\NitroGen\resources

Just look here on the forums for NitroGen + McTaco

and yes Nitrogen is a cool tool... I love it.

It helps to mess around with all the settings. You're gonna get krappy generations here and there but that just luck of the draw

as for the cramped roads make sure to use the medium or wide roads as Ive done here...

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Make sure you put compopack into your prefabs folderUse the parser tool to scan the prefabs folder and then edit it the way you want or...

download the prefab lists the McTaco generated.

Place the generated prefablist.txt into X:\thepathto\NitroGen\resources

Just look here on the forums for NitroGen + McTaco

and yes Nitrogen is a cool tool... I love it.

It helps to mess around with all the settings. You're gonna get krappy generations here and there but that just luck of the draw

as for the cramped roads make sure to use the medium or wide roads as Ive done here...

preview-Map.png
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I use the mod War of the Walker, seem that lots of the prefabs are not in compo-pack. Not too sure what I'm doing there since its the first time I use that tool and never used parser tool. Sometime I suck like that especially after a long day at work.

 
I use the mod War of the Walker, seem that lots of the prefabs are not in compo-pack. Not too sure what I'm doing there since its the first time I use that tool and never used parser tool. Sometime I suck like that especially after a long day at work.
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You can find prefab lists for War of the Walkers in the according GitHub repository (link is on this thread's main page), as I created some a few weeks ago.

 
Much as I appreciate having huge cities and interesting map layouts. I just came across a half-finished prefab in my starting area.

As in green arrows and purple crosses that are in no way supposed to be there. Wrecked my immersion, so I'm binning the world.

Is there any fix for this, or am I binning Nitrogen too?

 
Much as I appreciate having huge cities and interesting map layouts. I just came across a half-finished prefab in my starting area.As in green arrows and purple crosses that are in no way supposed to be there. Wrecked my immersion, so I'm binning the world.

Is there any fix for this, or am I binning Nitrogen too?
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You can delete those POIs from the prefablist.txt (delete or comment out the line in the textfile)

In the ingame editor, you can look though all POIs to see wich ones you dont want to have included.

Just remember the POIs name, and then search for it in the list.

 
AbeTheBlackFox some of the pois are too big to be placed next to each other so if you go into the nitrogen/resources folder and look for the config.txt, then look for POI_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_OTHER. increase this in small increments untill you no longer see pois intersecting each other.

I think the default is 5... I have mine at 18 and i rarely if ever get incomplete/sliced/intersected pois

Look around and mess with the config.txt. It made a great difference for my world generations by just tweaking a few of the "hidden" NitroGen settings. Don't give up on it so easy. It took me a good deal of time to get decent worlds generated and I still get trash once in a blue/blood moon...lol

 
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When A18 is out, I will have a look at the tool again, making the stamp loading configurable.

In the current version, you would have to replace on of the included stamps (using the same filename).

The stamps are hardcoded currently.

Its loads (RGBA 8 bit) png files for the stamps.

 
When A18 is out, I will have a look at the tool again, making the stamp loading configurable.
In the current version, you would have to replace on of the included stamps (using the same filename).

The stamps are hardcoded currently.

Its loads (RGBA 8 bit) png files for the stamps.
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That would be great. Being able to add our own would be a godsend for adding much needed variation.

RWG apparently uses 16 bit raw files, as do all game engines that have a terrain system. Would you be able to add 16 bit support for stamps when you're going over the program?

 
That would be great. Being able to add our own would be a godsend for adding much needed variation.
RWG apparently uses 16 bit raw files, as do all game engines that have a terrain system. Would you be able to add 16 bit support for stamps when you're going over the program?
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I have to check how using 16 bit stamps would work with the used image processing.

Stamps also need to use an alpha-layer for smooth blending, not just the hight-data.

I can add an option to import 16bit hightmaps as final maps without loss in precision (that then get populated with the streets and POIs). Those terrains could be generated in a separate terrain editor, and then can get some scaling parameters to fit it into the typical 7DtD dimensions.

I also want users to create their own stamps. And 8bit pngs are much easier to create for most people in a standard GFX editor.

Currently there is a converter tool included (DTMtoPNG) to create 8bit PNGs out of a 16 bit raw hightmap.

 
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Hey Damocles,

I'm really looking forward to the new version of your tool for Alpha 18! Thanks for your excellent work, I appreciate your tool in every way! I am currently working on a tool for myself to generate real locations in combination with Nitrogen from geodata / elevation data and data from OpenStreetMap (roads, biomes, waters, buildings). My hometown, a small village with 1000 inhabitants in Austria with a medieval castle, I can recreate recognizable already thanks to Nitrogen. With Alpha 18 I will then drive around in my hometown by bike and motorbike as in the past in real: D but in addition with zombies :D Sorry for the not perfect (automatically translated) English, best regards

 
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