HungryZombie
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Is it just me or does there seem to be more things you can craft now than there were in A16?
PC A18.1 (b6) Changes: Mining iron ore yields iron?!?
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Aldranon
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If you extrapolate ahead you can see that TFP are at least thinking of getting rid of at least some destructible blocks/areas: where digging is not possible.
This could help a lot with performance, allowing for "Baked" pre-gen'ed maps that are the equal to other games.
They could allow for mining areas, somewhat like an underground POI.
This could allow for the player(s) to face 100 zombies or more at one time.
This could help a lot with performance, allowing for "Baked" pre-gen'ed maps that are the equal to other games.
They could allow for mining areas, somewhat like an underground POI.
This could allow for the player(s) to face 100 zombies or more at one time.
Jugginator
Tester
That's what I'm saying, there're zounds much more crafting than ever before lol. Crafting aint dead just because a couple things got changed.
JaxTeller718
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Ive thought this too for a long time. They keep dropping hints at a sequel, and then we get an alpha with 100 new things. I would call it, polish it and leave whats here for the people who love it. Implement all these new ideas and removals for the sequel. Its a voxel game so their hands are tied already. They want to make a non voxel game that is apparent. So go make it.
This alpha they got their jackpot. Its a hit. Let it be. Take those customers and funnel them into your sequel now. Because if they keep reinventing the wheel for the sake of breaking a record every alpha they wont have any customers left for the sequel.
JCrook1028
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Hmm, Idk about that. I'd have to see some actual numbers and not just a hunch. Sure feels to me like a lot of the missing craftable deco blocks make up for the few new weapons we can craft. But really, who is crafting weapons anyway? Mods maybe, weapons are usually just looted. Even tools, I haven't crafted a single tool in any A18 game. They drop in loot too often and of a higher quality than I can make.
Jugginator
Tester
I am rarely lucky in the tool or mod nor gun department (least not the guns I want to use, but I always find them AFTER crafting...) so I craft a bit lol. Traps and all of that. But I've looked at the recipe xml, it's gigantic compared to previous alphas.
HungryZombie
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Well here's things that have been added to crafting. Maybe I'm wrong about them but i think they are new to A17 or A18.
Food:
Hobo Stew
Sham Chowder
Fish Taco
Chili Dog
Sham
Purified Water
Mods: All the mods that go into guns. A couple dozen I think.
Clothing:
Bandanas, Jackets, Tank Tops, Etc. I don't think you could craft those before.
Explosives:
Grenades
Sticky Grendades
Timed Charges
Armor:
Steel Armor Set
Ammo:
AP Rounds
Shotgun Breech Rounds
Buffs:
All the Grandpa Elixers
Fort Bites
Weapons:
Spears
Knuckles
Sledgehammer
Baseball Bats
Vechicles
Motorcycle
4x4
Gryocopter
Building Blocks
Wood Bars
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Wouldn't have noticed iron ore was missing if it weren't for the response. Changes to old habits are hard but the negative response for this one seems way ott. One icon has been removed, you still need to smelt iron bars with the forge.
I get how some crafters are saying crafting is less a necessity in a18 with the high loot drops but that's a balance issue. Relating that to removing one icon seems a tad drastic.
I get how some crafters are saying crafting is less a necessity in a18 with the high loot drops but that's a balance issue. Relating that to removing one icon seems a tad drastic.
Gazz
Fun Pimps Staff
No, it's not intended. It's a choice you are making.
Yep. The bellows got upgraded from "just an icon" to very desirable item.
Yes, there is and crafting perks like engineering are useful to anyone doing serious base building.
They are more useful like ever before because they don't just reduce crafting time but actually decrease ingredient cost.
(Science is due for a bit of an upgrade)
JaxTeller718
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Why do you think it is so desirable? Maybe for min maxers. What cant we craft without a bellows? Maybe Im missing something.
I would say it went from "must have" to "oh thats cool" item. Definitely not must have. I have yet to play a game where i needed a bellows in 18.
FranticDan
Well-known member
A difference I've noticed is the XP you get from mining iron nodes. When it was raw iron you got 188XP without perks, with scrap iron you only get 166XP. That adds up real quick with how much XP you end up missing out on. That's my 2 cents on the change 
JaxTeller718
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To each his own i guess. When you run 3 forges craft time means very little, at least to me.
TL;DR
The only thing that actually changed is that now if you mine iron it can be used instantly to make junk turret ammo. That is the only real world change. You dont have to click any more times to do the same stuff you used to do with ore. Other than scrapping (or using the forge to make scrap iron for ammo).
The only thing that actually changed is that now if you mine iron it can be used instantly to make junk turret ammo. That is the only real world change. You dont have to click any more times to do the same stuff you used to do with ore. Other than scrapping (or using the forge to make scrap iron for ammo).
JaxTeller718
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Yes. And that is why it was changed I believe. Someone wanted to make 1000 turret ammo before a horde night and got upset they had to scrap the raw iron. So raw iron had to go. Impulse decisions are becoming more common recently.
