PC [A17 Spoilers] Claim Blocks!

A17 allows players to have only one active LCB at a time.
This damages multiplayer both PvE and PvP.

One can no longer have multiple protected structures scattered around the map.

One can no longer increase the protection of a single structure by placing multiple LCBs.

IMO this change was unwanted and unnecessary.
Im totally agree

 
Bring back the old Landclaim system new sucks want to have more than one landclaim
Agreed.

If they just wanted to fix the zombie spawn problem then add a craftable, zombie machine that scares away zombies. You could even make it a powered/mid-game item that adds value/enriches the base building aspects of the game.

The baby is laying outside with the bathwater.

 
Complete rubbish and you know it
LCB have always been about protecting peoples bases, end of, the spawn thing was, up to A16, supposed to be done by sleeping bags, get your facts right
Um, read much? I specifically said A17 for the spawn blocking and yes, since this IS primarily a PvE game the primary purpose of the lcb is for the PvE AND PvP requirement for it to be able to pick up stations you craft. The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP.

Yes since you are a PvP player you UTILIZE the base protect power of the lcb more but that does NOT make it the primary purpose.

 
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Landclaimblocksize 21,31,41,51 or 71

Claim Deadzone 0,5,10,15,20,30,40 or 50

all configurable under multiplayer tab in client

server use serverconfig file

 
Um, read much? I specifically said A17 for the spawn blocking and yes, since this IS primarily a PvE game the primary purpose of the lcb is for the PvE AND PvP requirement for it to be able to pick up stations you craft. The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP. Yes since you are a PvP player you UTILIZE the base protect power of the lcb more but that does NOT make it the primary purpose.
Bro. A15 you didn't even need a claim to pick up workstations (something I think should be changed back). Its called a LAND CLAIM block. Not a SPAWN BLOCK or a WORKSTATION PICKUP block.

 
The LCB protects both. The change affects us both harshly and is unwarranted and not needed. TFP just made a change that zero people wanted or needed. Zombie not spawning block couldve been tied to the bedroll/bed or "x" Zombie Not Spawning Block and that couldve been 1 per person.

 
The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP. Yes since you are a PvP player you UTILIZE the base protect power of the lcb more but that does NOT make it the primary purpose.
Can I get that server name? I want to play in a nice neighborhood also.

 
Um, read much? I specifically said A17 for the spawn blocking and yes, since this IS primarily a PvE game the primary purpose of the lcb is for the PvE AND PvP requirement for it to be able to pick up stations you craft. The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP. Yes since you are a PvP player you UTILIZE the base protect power of the lcb more but that does NOT make it the primary purpose.
A lot of the players on PVE servers I've played on seem to enjoy building houses, shops, towns, train stations, community areas etc. They were all land claimed to prevent accidental damage and griefing. PVE servers are just as susceptible to griefing as anyone else. Now, those players have lost the ability to protect their assets.

 
Um, read much? I specifically said A17 for the spawn blocking and yes, since this IS primarily a PvE game the primary purpose of the lcb is for the PvE AND PvP requirement for it to be able to pick up stations you craft. The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP. Yes since you are a PvP player you UTILIZE the base protect power of the lcb more but that does NOT make it the primary purpose.
Except LCBs have never worked in such a way before. In all other alphas in the past, they have always been used to CLAIM LAND, hence the name. They were always meant to protect a player's base or an area of land. This has always been true in both PVE and PVP. It has never prevented zombie spawns, or protected a base or other structure from being damaged by zombies. That is what we are talking about, not what they've turned it into now. If you've never used one in PVE to protect your base, and never had a cheater or griefer attack your base, then you must be only playing SP games, on password-protected servers, or you haven't played on servers that are public and popular. Using an LCB to pick up workstations, lights, etc., was only introduced in A16. Before that, in A15, you couldn't pick up lights at all, and had to use a wrench to pick up workstations. Before that, there was no picking up the workstations.

 
Um, read much? I specifically said A17 for the spawn blocking and yes, since this IS primarily a PvE game the primary purpose of the lcb is for the PvE AND PvP requirement for it to be able to pick up stations you craft. The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP. Yes since you are a PvP player you UTILIZE the base protect power of the lcb more but that does NOT make it the primary purpose.
ehm... in PvE is complete necesary use claim blocks to protect your buildings from raiders, in my server usually u can see awesome buildings created by players and they only can be protected from raiders with the Claim Blocks, so it is used and must be used in PvE games, because everyone is not a friendly player, if people find a base without claim, they raid it, even if it is PvE, but if u can use claim blocks, they cant raid your buildings.

Bring back the old Landclaim system new sucks want to have more than one landclaim

 
Can I get that server name? I want to play in a nice neighborhood also.
Sure, it was Skippy0330's server. With server based commands to protect your base and admins who deal with griefers. Other than that played on private server with friends. Playing with random jerks holds no value to me. Most the decent sized Youtube/Twitch guys run subservers. Another good way to play with people not being complete pieces of crap. If your server admin doesn't deal with griefers you need to find a new server imo. I tend to not like playing with a**holes. ymmv.

 
The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP.
people on pve server would raid your base without claim. its not only issue for pvp

 
Sure, it was Skippy0330's server. With server based commands to protect your base and admins who deal with griefers. Other than that played on private server with friends. Playing with random jerks holds no value to me. Most the decent sized Youtube/Twitch guys run subservers. Another good way to play with people not being complete pieces of crap. If your server admin doesn't deal with griefers you need to find a new server imo. I tend to not like playing with a**holes. ymmv.
Yea... well... the reason they changed this is because they claimed spamming them was a problem. Since you would have never had that problem because you don't play with jerks, I don't understand why you are pro-single land claim block. It doesn't affect you.

 
This is not acceptable, It is not good for creativity and big bases.

BAses like JC's Chanel ones will not be possible in online servers.... this mutilates the game in live servers and makes the game less interesting

 
The protecting base power of the lcb only applies in a PvP game so not ONCE have I used it to protect my base as I do not play PvP. .
Wow youre really that low knowledge? pve servers use them too to stop griefing, as i said before, know what youre talking about or dont talk

 
I can attest that without multiple lcb, we couldn't run our epic builds community in any passable way.

I did get past the Whitelist limitations by writing my own server-bot with in game password authentication. That keeps hackers and griefers fixed in some remote spot where they'd need excessive effort to destroy bases. But servers like ours are a popular target where the work of several players over several weeks can be destroyed within a few minutes. Lcb are the only real defense here.

And in two a years, with Figuratively thousands of unique players, lcb cancer was never an issue

Make it a choice please.

 
Yea... well... the reason they changed this is because they claimed spamming them was a problem. Since you would have never had that problem because you don't play with jerks, I don't understand why you are pro-single land claim block. It doesn't affect you.
I'm NOT pro single lcb. Not at all. Please quote me where I said I thought this was a good idea. I simply am against it for the reason I use it, to be able to move things within my base. Please son't assume things, you know what that leads to.....

 
The reason is because TFP doesn't want PVP'ers, they have said as much during A15. "If you want pvp go play rust, This is a survivial PVE game" and not it's a slow walking sim. How slow can you handle before you explode at TFP for ruining every aspect 1 patch a time dating back to A12 like 3 years ago

 
The reason is because TFP doesn't want PVP'ers, they have said as much during A15. "If you want pvp go play rust, This is a survivial PVE game" and not it's a slow walking sim. How slow can you handle before you explode at TFP for ruining every aspect 1 patch a time dating back to A12 like 3 years ago


this affects pve just as much

 
That might be valid if the game were designed for PvP.It's not.
I think it's still valid. It will quickly point out the flaw in the decision. With that being said, I have to disagree with your comment a bit. If the game was developed with no PVP in mind, there would be no player killing whatsoever and loot boxes would be indestructible. If we take this even further, the game was roughly based on "The Walking Dead". They kill people there regularly and take other people's stuff. just saying....

 
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