PC a17 on release, that weekend you guys mention will we be able to play too?

Giving streamers games for free so they promote them in exactly those events we are talking about here is business as usual. They didn´t get it somehow free, they got it from the devs. What did you smoke that you don´t know this?
So, now that you know the fact that NONE of the streamers were given the game lemme ask you. What are you smoking?

Btw, yes I know a lot of youtubers and streamers get free copies of games. But that is not the subject at hand. The subject at hand is THIS event and that is simply not the case here. This is NOT "business as usual". Time to make some wine with those sour grapes you're holding onto imo.

 
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Instead of feeling annoyed, I feel optimistic that new customers means more money that should translate to more development or another great game.
Perspective makes all the difference in the world.
we're basically a year out from release regardless of how much new money comes in.

 
we're basically a year out from release regardless of how much new money comes in.
And your point?

I hope we're two years out. Imagine the stuff that could still be added in that time.

And it would still spend less time in development than a lot of games have.

 
wowowowo guys am sorry i didnt mean this question to be a ♥♥♥♥storm of hate, i am not impatitent, i was simply asking becus i am surviving week 5 atm and i had a good run, so wondering if i should stop playing or continue :) so i continue i cant wait to sit and watch streamers play i love that ♥♥♥♥, duno whom think otherwise.. all i ever want is act 17 nothing else nothing more.. i rather want it now then in 2 weeks :/ i cant sleep.

 
i really like the event, hopefully gonna bring more viewers to low viewers and prob few sales too. i understand why they would do this. and i cant wait for the big event! am sorry for starting an not so useful tread, didnt think there is people had to comment about the event in my tread instead of reading the announcement. mb ya'all. i jjust cait godamnit wait! i had a great idea 3 days ago but i kinda lost it now for now, but another idea

"idea" can we have some kind of end game beside the 7 days to die event? the hordes get huge and stuff, but people seem to outsmart it and surely doesnt feel like its an challenge, i never done it but ive seen few tactics on youtube and it seem to given up on the game and revisit when new acts comes out.. maby act 18 we can have behemoth or something for week 100+ like building concrete = ggwp so we need something to do either more dmg to structures or something i have no clue what you guys bringing in act 17 so.

 
So, now that you know the fact that NONE of the streamers were given the game lemme ask you. What are you smoking?
Btw, yes I know a lot of youtubers and streamers get free copies of games. But that is not the subject at hand. The subject at hand is THIS event and that is simply not the case here. This is NOT "business as usual". Time to make some wine with those sour grapes you're holding onto imo.
Same answer as a few posts above yours: I said business as usual and not that TFP did that. And earlier i said they probably got it for free. Probably. Google it.

I worded it that way because i didn´t know how TFP handled this. So yeah, you can keep that grapes. Sorry.

 
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I've never understood why there are so many people upset about the streamers, it's 3 days. If you're so impatient that you can't wait 3 days extra then how do you even manage to play the game? Some things in this game do require a lot of patience. Now if they gave it to the streamers even a month ahead (which even that wouldn't be that bad unless your life literally revolves around 7d2d) I can see people being a little more justified in saying things about it, but as it is what's the big deal? We all wanna try A17 and see the new changes for ourselves but there are things to do other than 7D2D, guys. Calm down. BTW this wasn't necessarily aimed at the person who started this thread, it was aimed at the several people I've seen that say TFP is a bad company because they are giving to streamers 3 days early,I don't necessarily think they are a bad company but if I was to say they were it wouldn't be because of giving to streamers a few days early, stop it and go play something else until it's out or just drop the game and never come back.
Because there is no reasonable reason why they can't release it to everyone at once. Why should some asshat get early access just because hes on twitch over other people? Release it to all, and just advertise there is a streaming event for people who are curious. This will make everyone happy. I personally dislike most streamers these days, it used to be about having a good time, now all they care about is how many subs/how much money they make anymore. It was better back before it all got monetized.

 
Same answer as a few posts above yours: I said business as usual and not that TFP did that. And earlier i said they probably got it for free. Probably. Google it.
I worded it that way because i didn´t know how TFP handled this. So yeah, you can keep that grapes. Sorry.


They didn´t get it somehow free, they got it from the devs. What did you smoke that you don´t know this?


That's not a probably. (and yes I know you used probably elsewhere in your post) Jus sayin.

 
That's not a probably. (and yes I know you used probably elsewhere in your post) Jus sayin.
Really? i just used your words. Assuming. Like you did yourself in the original post i answered to. Even used somehow like you did. So yeah, you can still keep that grapes. Sorry. Seems like you have to eat them on your own.

 
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Because there is no reasonable reason why they can't release it to everyone at once. Why should some asshat get early access just because hes on twitch over other people? Release it to all, and just advertise there is a streaming event for people who are curious. This will make everyone happy. I personally dislike most streamers these days, it used to be about having a good time, now all they care about is how many subs/how much money they make anymore. It was better back before it all got monetized.
Roland explained the reason a few times, did you miss it or not understand it? Exclusivity for a few days is the payment for the advertisment. And advertisement is seldom free.

This type of payment comes quite cheap, imagine they would have to pay hundreds of streamers to play their game,

 
Roland explained the reason a few times, did you miss it or not understand it? Exclusivity for a few days is the payment for the advertisment. And advertisement is seldom free.
This type of payment comes quite cheap, imagine they would have to pay hundreds of streamers to play their game,
He did miss it. He, like others, can't see beyond their own raging disgust and disdain of streamers. It blinds them. You can see it in how he cannot help but refer to them all collectively as asshats. And why are they asshats? Because they stream gameplay for others to watch. You look at the people most angry about this and in almost every case it goes back to a deep dislike for streamers. That dislike overwhelms logic and reason and any explanation to convince them is shredded in the maw of their jealousy.

Even the guy above who said that TFP is favoring new customers over old customers. The streamers are not new customers. Many if not most have been playing this game for years just like us. Many have hundreds of hours racked up. Many follow the development. But the haters will not acknowledge that. All they are willing to see is that some glory hogging asshats who don't understand the game and haven't supported the developers and got the game for free get to play first before the true fans.

It's a load of malarky and even though it doesn't rise to the level of social and racial bigotry, it is still a form of prejudice that is plain as day to see.

 
He did miss it. He, like others, can't see beyond their own raging disgust and disdain of streamers. It blinds them. You can see it in how he cannot help but refer to them all collectively as asshats. And why are they asshats? Because they stream gameplay for others to watch. You look at the people most angry about this and in almost every case it goes back to a deep dislike for streamers. That dislike overwhelms logic and reason and any explanation to convince them is shredded in the maw of their jealousy.
Even the guy above who said that TFP is favoring new customers over old customers. The streamers are not new customers. Many if not most have been playing this game for years just like us. Many have hundreds of hours racked up. Many follow the development. But the haters will not acknowledge that. All they are willing to see is that some glory hogging asshats who don't understand the game and haven't supported the developers and got the game for free get to play first before the true fans.

It's a load of malarky and even though it doesn't rise to the level of social and racial bigotry, it is still a form of prejudice that is plain as day to see.
Am I the only one who hopes you have a few streamers that are new to the game? I quite enjoy watching "First Impression Videos" of games, even if I already own them or not. Sometimes it brings me back to those first precious weeks of playing were everything is new. Plus it's also fun watching a newbie get rekt ;)

 
He did miss it. He, like others, can't see beyond their own raging.
Like you when you are always quick in bashing any critic on here but yet choose to ignore questions about the game itself?

 
I answer questions about the game all the time. Your characterization of me is blatantly false to anyone that is even casually aware of my post history.

The fact that THIS is your new “counterpoint” is telling. You can’t even answer my points directly. You have to lie and say that I don’t answer game related questions....lol.

And I’m not bashing the critics, themselves. I am bashing their insulting attacks against people, or clarifying erroneous ideas they have based on assumptions wherever I have first-hand knowledge. I let criticism stand unanswered all the time. But, I never let insulting attacks against the developers, other forum members, or streamers stand unanswered. If the haters could criticize without also spewing personal attacks I’d post less. But that is not in their nature...

 
Am I the only one who hopes you have a few streamers that are new to the game? I quite enjoy watching "First Impression Videos" of games, even if I already own them or not. Sometimes it brings me back to those first precious weeks of playing were everything is new. Plus it's also fun watching a newbie get rekt ;)
I don’t think any of the streamers are new to the game. I think most of them are going to be stumbling through the learning curve and getting rekt by the new pathing and AI.

Quests are not safe Day 1 affairs but I bet at least a few will jump right into a quest to try it out and that will be entertaining.

 
why are u remving my comments on this tread i started wtf
We soft delete posts meaning that moderators can see them still after they have been removed. I just scrolled through the entire thread. You have zero deleted posts in this thread and all of your posts in this thread are unaltered. In fact, nobody's posts have been deleted in this particular thread.

uh.....wtf.... ;)

 
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Shouldn't Tfp be favoring new customers? Isn't that how business works? C'mon people...
You can show the game to new customers without letting your already existing customers wait longer for it. It´s not like that existing customers will stop anyone who doesn´t own the game watching those streams.

It´s not about those 3 days. It´s about the twisted logic behind it. Explain how giving this to streamers earlier will influence people that do not own the game please. How does giving everyone the new Alpha at the same time stop new customers from watching a stream?

@Roland. Well please explain how a system that takes away the control from the player can replace a system where the player has free choice.

 
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It´s not about those 3 days. It´s about the twisted logic behind it. Explain how giving this to streamers earlier will influence people that do not own the game please. How does giving everyone the new Alpha at the same time stop new customers from watching a stream?
In detail:

1) Streamers want as much viewers as possible.

2) Exclusivity brings viewers.

2a) Because they can brag about it and some of their viewers have the (wrong) impression that exclusive stuff is worth more. Human nature.

2b) Exclusivity gets them more viewers also because some of the current players will watch the streams only if they can't play themselves (that is a fact, several forum posters said exactly that).

3) From 1 and 2 it follows that streamers want exclusivity.

4) Many streamers are not primarily 7days streamers. They expect some form of incentive to change their normal schedule and show 7 days instead. Bigger streamers know exactly what they are worth and expect payment or some sort of compensation for their services. If you want streamers outside your usual pool, don't expect them to run in your doors.

From 3 and 4 follows streamers might accept exclusivity as incentive or payment

Is that logic somehwere twisted? Show me.

 
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