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A16 - STARVATION Mod for A16

Why do my animals keep disappearing? My NPCs too.. I have my NPCs working ,and the yare fed, then poof, they disappear one day.. Do they only last so long? Same for my animals. They will be fine in my farm then suddenly poof gone.. the males disappear more than the females, but they too will end up disappearing. i make sure they have access to both food and water. does water need to be in the trough? why do they vanish, and why arent they breeding?

 
We have been playing for quite a while, but none of us have found any GUN books, has this changed in some way from before.

CrossBows etc we have found books. But nothing on Guns in BookStores. Been checking Military camps too and no luck.

Some clue would be nice if you know what was changed. We have hit level 100 and still not found any.

 
We have been playing for quite a while, but none of us have found any GUN books, has this changed in some way from before.CrossBows etc we have found books. But nothing on Guns in BookStores. Been checking Military camps too and no luck.

Some clue would be nice if you know what was changed. We have hit level 100 and still not found any.
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Hello.

That are no more weapon books. You need a weapon workbench to assemble / disassemble guns.

 
Quick question: Is there a way to move the text in the upper right hand of the screen that displays the month and day to the left side of the screen because the client's alpha text is right over it making it hard to decipher?

I've looked into the UI config myself but couldn't find it. Thanks in advance! :)

 
That text is, at the moment, hardcoded, but I can move it anywhere... Will discuss with DUST the possibility to put it in the UI in the future.

 
Quick question: Is there a way to move the text in the upper right hand of the screen that displays the month and day to the left side of the screen because the client's alpha text is right over it making it hard to decipher?
I've looked into the UI config myself but couldn't find it. Thanks in advance! :)
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I even used creative to spawn in a book to read, and I would unlearn it in about 2 minutes. Gotta use the dang bench. :( cant even repair anything without it lol.

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would love to see some of these question / answers in the wikidot or on the website for easier access.. this is alot of pages to read through to learn stuff...

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some problems we've run into:

....... NPC workers will randomly die, even when fed and working

....... guns dont seem to be able to hit old models (bears, wolves, ect) but arrows work fine

...... when workstations are making items, sometimes the item they are making, or the parts they are using will magically create a huge stack of like 13k or more of the item.

...... the quest to kill the rad ape will not count the ape kill

...... my farm animals will dissappear, wont breed. mostly its the males that vanish. does the trough need water?

...... Is there no use for the boy?

...... sometimes when i pick up an item, my inventory will get filled up with copies of that item.

..... small generator and diesel generator should have different amounts of engine slots.

..... water collectors are just vanishing, and they flood through walls.

..... Ultrasonic rodent Repellers do nothing.

...... Radio says you can plug it in, but you cant.

...... cant change the channel on the tv

...... some of the zombies "unrendor" when you change camera angle. (bikini, rezzer, and parasite to name the most offenders) they still there just "blink" out and back in.

...... sometimes when shooting, if the gun has a silencer on it, the gun sound bugs out and just keeps repeating.

...... if you are using the 50 cal gun, and you roll the mouse wheel up to change weapons it dupes the browning and destroys w/e was in that slot, then the new browning bugs out.

...... sometimes when using insert to put a mod on a gun you get a null ref.

...... if you have a flashlight on a gun and the flashlight breaks, the whole gun breaks.

..... Avocado and Dates say we can use them in juices and stuff, but there is no recipe options for them. (jerky also says it can be used in juices..... bleh)

...... Lemon juice should be lemonaid (give sugar another use :D )... can you imagine drinking straight up lemon juice! whew boy!

..... mechanic says he can make nails, but he wont make them.

..... tamed cougar is very noisy, its sound file just constantly repeats, its like having a mac truck idol in your ear.

..... i have food and water in the dog trough for my pets but they dont eat, nor sleep in the bed.

..... what the hell do i do with rats after i loot them? lol I cant figure this one out other then sell them to the trader and troll players.

list was bigger than i expected, lol. just a few things we've noticed... we really love this mod, and look forward to see what's next :D

 
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Thanks for the input!

I even used creative to spawn in a book to read, and I would unlearn it in about 2 minutes. Gotta use the dang bench. :( cant even repair anything without it lol.

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would love to see some of these question / answers in the wikidot or on the website for easier access.. this is alot of pages to read through to learn stuff...

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some problems we've run into:

....... NPC workers will randomly die, even when fed and working Cant reproduce this, so will need to know the conditions that lead up to this)

....... guns dont seem to be able to hit old models (bears, wolves, ect) but arrows work fine (In my play, at least the hunting rifle always hits)

...... when workstations are making items, sometimes the item they are making, or the parts they are using will magically create a huge stack of like 13k or more of the item. Cant reproduce this

...... the quest to kill the rad ape will not count the ape kill Noted, easy fix

...... my farm animals will dissappear, wont breed. mostly its the males that vanish. does the trough need water? Cant reproduce this

...... Is there no use for the boy?

...... sometimes when i pick up an item, my inventory will get filled up with copies of that item. Cant reproduce this

..... small generator and diesel generator should have different amounts of engine slots. Working as intended

..... water collectors are just vanishing, and they flood through walls. when properly installed with complete surround, a block above all around as well,and space for water, i dont see this ever happening

..... Ultrasonic rodent Repellers do nothing. Cant reproduce this, they seem to work on dedi

...... Radio says you can plug it in, but you cant. Noted, will try to reproduce

...... cant change the channel on the tv Noted, will try to reproduce

...... some of the zombies "unrendor" when you change camera angle. (bikini, rezzer, and parasite to name the most offenders) they still there just "blink" out and back in. Will fix this someday, low priority

...... sometimes when shooting, if the gun has a silencer on it, the gun sound bugs out and just keeps repeating.

...... if you are using the 50 cal gun, and you roll the mouse wheel up to change weapons it dupes the browning and destroys w/e was in that slot, then the new browning bugs out. Noted, will try to reproduce

...... sometimes when using insert to put a mod on a gun you get a null ref. Noted, will try to reproduce

...... if you have a flashlight on a gun and the flashlight breaks, the whole gun breaks. Noted, will try to reproduce

..... Avocado and Dates say we can use them in juices and stuff, but there is no recipe options for them. (jerky also says it can be used in juices..... bleh) New recipe systems incoming

...... Lemon juice should be lemonaid (give sugar another use :D )... can you imagine drinking straight up lemon juice! whew boy! New recipe systems incoming

..... mechanic says he can make nails, but he wont make them. Noted, will try to reproduce

..... tamed cougar is very noisy, its sound file just constantly repeats, its like having a mac truck idol in your ear. Noted, they are loud creatures

..... i have food and water in the dog trough for my pets but they dont eat, nor sleep in the bed. Noted, will try to reproduce. May need admin rights for this to work

..... what the hell do i do with rats after i loot them? lol I cant figure this one out other then sell them to the trader and troll players. No current purpose

list was bigger than i expected, lol. just a few things we've noticed... we really love this mod, and look forward to see what's next :D
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My feedback is above in red. Thanks for the feedback, it really helps.

 
My feedback is above in red. Thanks for the feedback, it really helps.
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^_^ No problem. I feel like im complaining, but im not! :D

okay..... lets see..

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some problems we've run into:

....... NPC workers will randomly die, even when fed and working Cant reproduce this, so will need to know the conditions that lead up to this) We don't know. They will have food, and they will be working, then suddenly, BAM they die. I notice when they get bored they die/vanish, but it just seems to happen. Working then poof. We have plenty of food and work. We cant seem to reproduce it, seems random.

....... guns dont seem to be able to hit old models (bears, wolves, ect) but arrows work fine (In my play, at least the hunting rifle always hits) This is with the "new" guns, sorry I should have clarified,


like desert eagle, the new rifles/pistols and the edited psg.

...... when workstations are making items, sometimes the item they are making, or the parts they are using will magically create a huge stack of like 13k or more of the item. Cant reproduce this we cant either, it seems to happen at random, mostly when we forget about him and hes working on the same project for a long time, especially if the boxes get full

...... my farm animals will dissappear, wont breed. mostly its the males that vanish. does the trough need water? Cant reproduce this We've got them in a 20x20 ish area one wall has water,


and we have the mfenced in, and they have food. we've got one pair each, maybe once every few "months" we will get a random baby, but most of the time we will go check and a male will be gone. rarely the female is gone. The bull and ram vanish most often. we dont know whats causing it. (death by snu snu?)

...... Is there no use for the boy?

...... sometimes when i pick up an item, my inventory will get filled up with copies of that item. Cant reproduce this use either, seems random

..... water collectors are just vanishing, and they flood through walls. when properly installed with complete surround, a block above all around as well,and space for water, i dont see this ever happening we first had them ontop our roof, and it flooded the whole base, all 3 floors, lol. now we have them in a 10x10 pit, but they dissappear.

..... Ultrasonic rodent Repellers do nothing. Cant reproduce this, they seem to work on dedi installed several over our garden, rats just walk right over em, lol, perhaps because garden is underground? tried them both uptop and below and both.

...... sometimes when shooting, if the gun has a silencer on it, the gun sound bugs out and just keeps repeating.

..... i have food and water in the dog trough for my pets but they dont eat, nor sleep in the bed. Noted, will try to reproduce. May need admin rights for this to work i have admin powers on the server.


I figured tiger, spider, hyena, cougar, dont need to eat, but thought the dogs did but the food never seems to deminish.

new one: summoning a tamed zombie bear freaks the server out causing massive null refs.

aslo new problem: when placing a new farmer and first talking to her, an error pops up.

guard stations causes errors after being given weapons/ammo.

We just started getting this error today, workers have all their stuff and wont work.. this error spams over and over like a 100 rows of error code every 30 seconds.

CrafterWorkScript: Crafter has no inventory

FarmerWorkScript: Farmer has no inventory

they were working fine before today (asside from the occasional disappearance) ... If we figure out how to purposely replicate any of these will let you know.

 
The zombieBear pet is fixed in next patch. Frankly it sounds like you have a bad install, maybe mismatched files? We have dozens of testers on many servers, and none are reporting even a fraction of these issues. I'd suggest a full wipe and re-install when that's possible.

 
The zombieBear pet is fixed in next patch. Frankly it sounds like you have a bad install, maybe mismatched files? We have dozens of testers on many servers, and none are reporting even a fraction of these issues. I'd suggest a full wipe and re-install when that's possible.
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im not the only one with the issues, or do you mean for the dedi?

 
Hi, I found a bug with the insect repellent block. I think it loses power in the morning when the game switches between the battery bank and solar bank. In my video (below) I attached 4 insect repellent lights to a battery bank which in turn is attached to the solar bank. The repellent lights are not illuminated even though it is morning and the solar bank has enough output to power all my devices. I had to manually switch off/on the battery bank for the repellent lights to turn on again. Now I don't know if it is a just graphical issue, since the solar bank shows the same amount when the repellent lights are illuminated. Any ideas?

Also while I'm here, do normal trees require water to grow? I know the fruit trees do. Thanks.

 
im not the only one with the issues, or do you mean for the dedi?
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The fact that it's more than one player in your group but no other groups means that it is not the client. As Xyth stated, these issues seem to be isolated to your group. Therefore the common denominator is the server install. Wipe the server, reinstall, and see what that brings you.

 
Hi, I found a bug with the insect repellent block. I think it loses power in the morning when the game switches between the battery bank and solar bank. In my video (below) I attached 4 insect repellent lights to a battery bank which in turn is attached to the solar bank. The repellent lights are not illuminated even though it is morning and the solar bank has enough output to power all my devices. I had to manually switch off/on the battery bank for the repellent lights to turn on again. Now I don't know if it is a just graphical issue, since the solar bank shows the same amount when the repellent lights are illuminated. Any ideas?
Also while I'm here, do normal trees require water to grow? I know the fruit trees do. Thanks.

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Looks to me that because the batteries are dead, they are drawing all your solar power to recharge. Maybe? The reason turning them off and on allows power is that if gives you a hair over what the batteries require to recharge. That hair over remains positive as long as there is sun. Just an idea. Question here: Do you get plague if the lights aren't lit? If you still don't get plague than it's a graphic issue. If you do, than it's a power issue.

As for trees, if you plant it, it requires water. If the RWG placed it, it does not.

 
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Just passing on some info. I wanted tp put on my server Magoli's , War of the walkers and Ravenhearst prefabs not included in Starvation. I put them all in the Starvation rwg file and that didn't work, so I put everything ( including the bespoke Starvation entries ) in Magoli's rwg file and that worked.

 
^_^ No problem. I feel like im complaining, but im not! :D
okay..... lets see..

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some problems we've run into:

....... NPC workers will randomly die, even when fed and working Cant reproduce this, so will need to know the conditions that lead up to this) We don't know. They will have food, and they will be working, then suddenly, BAM they die. I notice when they get bored they die/vanish, but it just seems to happen. Working then poof. We have plenty of food and work. We cant seem to reproduce it, seems random.

....... guns dont seem to be able to hit old models (bears, wolves, ect) but arrows work fine (In my play, at least the hunting rifle always hits) This is with the "new" guns, sorry I should have clarified,


like desert eagle, the new rifles/pistols and the edited psg.

...... when workstations are making items, sometimes the item they are making, or the parts they are using will magically create a huge stack of like 13k or more of the item. Cant reproduce this we cant either, it seems to happen at random, mostly when we forget about him and hes working on the same project for a long time, especially if the boxes get full

...... my farm animals will dissappear, wont breed. mostly its the males that vanish. does the trough need water? Cant reproduce this We've got them in a 20x20 ish area one wall has water,


and we have the mfenced in, and they have food. we've got one pair each, maybe once every few "months" we will get a random baby, but most of the time we will go check and a male will be gone. rarely the female is gone. The bull and ram vanish most often. we dont know whats causing it. (death by snu snu?)

...... Is there no use for the boy?

...... sometimes when i pick up an item, my inventory will get filled up with copies of that item. Cant reproduce this use either, seems random

..... water collectors are just vanishing, and they flood through walls. when properly installed with complete surround, a block above all around as well,and space for water, i dont see this ever happening we first had them ontop our roof, and it flooded the whole base, all 3 floors, lol. now we have them in a 10x10 pit, but they dissappear.

..... Ultrasonic rodent Repellers do nothing. Cant reproduce this, they seem to work on dedi installed several over our garden, rats just walk right over em, lol, perhaps because garden is underground? tried them both uptop and below and both.

...... sometimes when shooting, if the gun has a silencer on it, the gun sound bugs out and just keeps repeating.

..... i have food and water in the dog trough for my pets but they dont eat, nor sleep in the bed. Noted, will try to reproduce. May need admin rights for this to work i have admin powers on the server.


I figured tiger, spider, hyena, cougar, dont need to eat, but thought the dogs did but the food never seems to deminish.

new one: summoning a tamed zombie bear freaks the server out causing massive null refs.

aslo new problem: when placing a new farmer and first talking to her, an error pops up.

guard stations causes errors after being given weapons/ammo.

We just started getting this error today, workers have all their stuff and wont work.. this error spams over and over like a 100 rows of error code every 30 seconds.

CrafterWorkScript: Crafter has no inventory

FarmerWorkScript: Farmer has no inventory

they were working fine before today (asside from the occasional disappearance) ... If we figure out how to purposely replicate any of these will let you know.
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Purgatory Wolf and myself are running a server with roughly 25 people on the server. If it helps the server is being run by Blue Fang Solutions.

 
Looks to me that because the batteries are dead, they are drawing all your solar power to recharge. Maybe? The reason turning them off and on allows power is that if gives you a hair over what the batteries require to recharge. That hair over remains positive as long as there is sun. Just an idea. Question here: Do you get plague if the lights aren't lit? If you still don't get plague than it's a graphic issue. If you do, than it's a power issue.
As for trees, if you plant it, it requires water. If the RWG placed it, it does not.
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Yes the solar bank recharges the batteries in the battery bank if they are dead but there is still plenty left over to charge other devices. I have two fridges hidden in the corner and all the food in them appear fine (eg. do not spoil) with this setup. I recorded another video where at actually 6:00 AM the repellent lights turn off after being on all night with both banks on. I'll do more tests when I get a chance to see if the repellent lights are actually working even if they appear off.

This issue is easy to reproduce - attach solar bank to battery bank with both banks on. Then attach insect repellent or rodent lights to battery bank and wait till 6:00 AM in the morning or whenever dawn/zombies walk/light breaks out. Note, I am playing SP.

As for the planted trees requiring water, thanks for the clarification.

On the topic of water and trees many of my rain collectors did disappear. However, I'm wondering if they were destroyed by a wandering horde trying to attack trees and the collectors themselves got in the way. I have noticed that wandering hordes are much more frequent in A16, almost daily in my world.

 
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