PC 90 duct tape for a drone level 6 ​😆

Javabean867 said:
Or going through all of the gun parts you have been collecting, some are higher quality and you are picking the best of the best.
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You wouldn't really lose the rest though, except in specific circumstances; as in, you'd still have plenty of fine firewood after getting that one log. Or finding that one durable weapon part within the pile, you'd still have the lesser quality ones to make weaker arms with...

As for weapon parts, I'd be mildly happier if; instead of 5 different types of specific gun-type parts, you'd have 5-6 different quality tiers of Generic Gun Parts, you'd need the same rank 4 part to make either a handgun or a rifle. Those could be obscenely rare at high tiers, as you'll only need one per gun. It wouldn't be great, as it makes little sense to make wildly different weapons from the same parts, but it might play "nicer" as a rarity gate (and it'd avoid filling the item IDs with 5x5 part types).

 
Riamus said:
If it required a bunch of electronic parts, I'd be fine with it.  But when the changes to require all that duct tape were made at the exact same time they removed jars and added a lot more duct tape to a lot of other recipes as well, it's very clear they did it only to make you need more water after making water less readily available.  I don't mind the water changes, but I do mind the extreme increase in duct tape in recipes for no reason but to make you need more water.  It isn't that I can't afford it because it's still extremely easy to have plenty of water.  But I just don't like the reason for it and so I refuse to craft things with those high duct tape changes that occurred in A21.  I could mod it out, but I don't have the original (A20, at least) recipes for things and it's just easier to stop crafting stuff that was changed like that.

And I've never much cared for games thinking you need a sink for stuff.  It's fine for a money sink in some cases as those tend to be things that you can do just because you have money and not because you need to -- buying unknown items from the trader in Diablo 2, for example.  But when you start throwing a bunch of stuff into recipes as a sink, it isn't a good thing, imo.  Besides, like I said, this occurred at the same time as the water changes, so it's quite clear it wasn't to use up excessive stacks of duct tape.  And there are other things that you end up with far more of than duct tape that haven't had any sinks put in for, which also makes it pretty clear that wasn't a change to add a sink.

Most people will just spend the duct tape and ignore the reason why the recipe was changed and there's nothing wrong with that.  But I just won't.  It's a quirk of mine, I suppose.  ;)
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+1

 
Considering 90 duct tape is 9 bottles of glue and 63 pieces of cloth, its hard to see how the drone would even get off the ground.

If the goal is to add difficulty to crafting a T6 drone, I'd say add silver or gold to the recipe or just bump up the number of robotic parts.

90 tape?  Maybe if your making a flying spaghetti monster.  lol

 
theFlu said:
You wouldn't really lose the rest though, except in specific circumstances; as in, you'd still have plenty of fine firewood after getting that one log. Or finding that one durable weapon part within the pile, you'd still have the lesser quality ones to make weaker arms with...
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Hey quit picking out the flaws in my logic lol.  Although with the wood specifically you aren't losing and wood from making logs.  A log burns for as long as the wood it takes to burn would(supposedly, I didn't verify though.)

 
Just wait till you find one in loot. I've sold like 2 quality 5 drones because they are just annoying as hell and get in the way. 

Is the amount needed to craft stupid yes it is. Here is my solution. Quest and do PoIs while saving up the mats for it. If you get lucky and find one in loot congrats you saved yourself tons of mats if not oh well. BTW as the rules of looting dictate you will probably find a drone after you crafted it. So either way you are going to get annoyed one way or another.

 
Down with the OP non-believer ! Sacrilege

We sentence you to silence by duct tape!

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theFlu said:
Isn't it 90 bottles and 630 cloth.. a curtain giving two, so about a dishong tower's worth of window covering. I think it's more of a para-glider than a drone... :)
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Its 1 glue and 7 cloth per duct tape right?

Either way its a ridiculous amount, but para glider is a cool idea!

 
Personally, I do think the cloth requirements to make the duct tape is kinda excessive. The major limiting factor in game right now for me is actually the cloth itself, glue is easy enough with water and bones. And since there is no more regular clothing to scrap to cloth now, its alot harder to get. Used to pop into Savage Country POIs to just get all my cloth needs to last me weeks. That's no longer applicable unfortunately (though its a good source for Armor and Legendary Parts now). 

In fact, I'm heavily invested into Living of the Land just so I can farm cotton really. I'm also hoping to get a spare legendary part so I can craft the Farmer Outfit for more crops. 

 
Not only that, it makes no sense for a item to cost MORE mats the more skilled at crafting it you are, if anything the mat costs should be reduced, or better just static. 1.0 is basically the tedium/stall update as tfp knows the game has no real content so they need to make console players take forever to realize this. I've played alot of survival games and 7dtd 1.0 has some of the most insane craft requirements i've seen in them. I mean how would that drone even fly with 90 rolls of duct tape stuck to it? or how would u swing that piackaxe that used 100 bars of steel to craft? I mean a steel bar like that prob weights a few pounds at least. Yeah yeah I know its a game so realism doesn't apply, but sometimes it needs to have limits.

I've already given up on 1.0 like 5-7 days after it came out in experimental, prob won't bother with it again till overhauls are out as those overhauls are actually ya know fun and balanced properly. Not to mention they have a actual challenge other than just inflating enemy health.

Euzio said:
Personally, I do think the cloth requirements to make the duct tape is kinda excessive. The major limiting factor in game right now for me is actually the cloth itself, glue is easy enough with water and bones. And since there is no more regular clothing to scrap to cloth now, its alot harder to get. Used to pop into Savage Country POIs to just get all my cloth needs to last me weeks. That's no longer applicable unfortunately (though its a good source for Armor and Legendary Parts now). 

In fact, I'm heavily invested into Living of the Land just so I can farm cotton really. I'm also hoping to get a spare legendary part so I can craft the Farmer Outfit for more crops. 
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Yeah 1.0 is the first time I've felt a need to have to plant cotton due to the insane cost of bandages/duct tape, and the lack of clothing to scrap for it. IMO they should have left the clothes in as only an item meant to be scrapped. Many survival games do this, where you loot junk then break it down into componnent parts. Clothes stores are almost not worth looting anymore. They could also solve this by increasing how much cloth you find in sources that drop it. Instead of 2-3 cloth, make it drop an average of 10 cloth. Its still not as much as u'd get for scrapping clothes in a21, but its better than the current 1-3 per.

 
Euzio said:
Personally, I do think the cloth requirements to make the duct tape is kinda excessive. The major limiting factor in game right now for me is actually the cloth itself, glue is easy enough with water and bones. And since there is no more regular clothing to scrap to cloth now, its alot harder to get. Used to pop into Savage Country POIs to just get all my cloth needs to last me weeks. That's no longer applicable unfortunately (though its a good source for Armor and Legendary Parts now). 

In fact, I'm heavily invested into Living of the Land just so I can farm cotton really. I'm also hoping to get a spare legendary part so I can craft the Farmer Outfit for more crops. 
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Yes, cloth being less available means the wasteland treasures book that turns grass into cloth is a lot more valuable. I never really used that feature in previous alphas because with all the scrapped clothes I would have stacks of cloth.

 
Euzio said:
Personally, I do think the cloth requirements to make the duct tape is kinda excessive. The major limiting factor in game right now for me is actually the cloth itself, glue is easy enough with water and bones. And since there is no more regular clothing to scrap to cloth now, its alot harder to get. Used to pop into Savage Country POIs to just get all my cloth needs to last me weeks. That's no longer applicable unfortunately (though its a good source for Armor and Legendary Parts now). 

In fact, I'm heavily invested into Living of the Land just so I can farm cotton really. I'm also hoping to get a spare legendary part so I can craft the Farmer Outfit for more crops. 
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I feel quite the same about CLOTH in 1.0.

Why not more electronic parts and circuit boards, or whatever instead of duct tape for a drone... deeevs 

250 grass weed to craft cigar mod... cmon devs...

 
I have never even considered using the drone at all. And now knowing the requirements for crafting I highly doubt I ever will.

 
Blasphemous said:
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90 duct tape for a stupid drone? Is it just a gigantic roll of flying tape or what?

Is this supposed to be some sort of @%$#ed balance thing?

Why does it have to be NINETY?! Seriously... it's enough to build a Myth Busters' duct tape plane.

Shouldn't it be like 90 polymers and maybe 5 DT?

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Man, this made me die laughing ... gigantic roll of flying tape!! (kind of like the flying spaghetti monster?! maybe?)

Seriously, I think every once in a while TFP make a strange requirement, lol. I like your suggestion that is should take more than just tape. In fact, like you know how everything has "part"?  machine gun parts, handgun parts, bladed parts, etc? Why not have some "drone parts"? And, those could be used to repair it. Plus like electronic parts, mechanical parts, polymers, oil... and sure some tape. But just 90 tape is ridiculous. Hope they take the suggestion.

 
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As for water, instead of dew collectors, why can't I just grab a bucket and do a couple of trips to a local lake for a stack apiece?

Also cloth... I've been picking cotton on top of supercorn for the past couple of days.

Here's my most recent pick from a rectangle of 100 plot tiles, with 3/3 points in Living off the Land:

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647, which is barely 17 more than needed for 90 duct tape.

Are you telling me all of this is flying behind me, packed into a device no larger than a cube half a meter across?

Dear old southland with it's dreamy songs...

 
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