3.0 Experimental (b259) - Tier Progression Sandbox Setting Appears Out of Sync with Trader Quest Progression

[blunnug1992]

Version

3.0

Platform

Windows

Version​

7 Days to Die 3.0 Experimental (b259)

Game Type​

Dedicated Server

Sandbox Settings​

• Tier Progression: 5
• Daily Quest Limit: 10
• Other sandbox settings modified (loot abundance, XP, etc.), but none should affect trader progression.

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Description​

The Tier Progression sandbox setting appears to affect Opening Trade Routes / biome progression, but does not appear to affect Trader Job Tier progression, causing the two systems to become out of sync.

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Expected Behavior​

With Tier Progression = 5, progression should require half the normal number of quests.
Since trader progression is point-based:

• Tier 1 Quest = 1 point
• Tier 2 Quest = 2 points
• Tier 3 Quest = 3 points
• Tier 4 Quest = 4 points
• Tier 5 Quest = 5 points

The expected cumulative point requirements would be:

Unlock	Expected Total Points
Tier 2	5
Tier 3	15
Tier 4	30
Tier 5	50
Tier 6	75

This represents completing 5 quests of each tier.

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Actual Behavior​

After completing 5 Tier 1 quests:

• Opening Trade Routes unlocked.
• I was directed to Trader Jen.
• Neither Trader Rekt nor Trader Jen offered Tier 2 jobs.

I had to complete 5 additional Tier 1 quests (10 total Tier Points) before Tier 2 jobs became available.
The same behavior appears to repeat for Tier 3.
Current progression:

• Quest Log showed Tier III (27/30) while the sandbox setting was still 5.
• Traders only offered Tier 2 jobs.

I then changed the sandbox setting back to 10, restarted the server, advanced to the next in-game day, and checked multiple traders.
After doing so:

• The Quest Log changed to Tier II (27/30).
• Traders still only offered Tier 2 jobs.

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Testing Performed​

• Changed Tier Progression from 5 back to 10.
• Restarted the dedicated server.
• Advanced time from Day 22 to Day 23 using the server console.
• Checked multiple traders.
• Trader jobs remained Tier 2.

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Possible Cause​

My theory is that two different progression systems are being used.
The Tier Progression sandbox setting appears to count completed quests, which unlocks Opening Trade Routes and biome progression.
However, Trader Job Tier progression appears to continue using Tier Points, still requiring the default cumulative point totals.
If true, the systems become unsynchronized.
For example:

• Opening Trade Routes unlock after 5 completed quests.
• Trader Tier 2 jobs still require 10 Tier Points.
• Trader Tier 3 jobs still require 30 Tier Points.
• Trader Tier 4 jobs still require 60 Tier Points.
• Trader Tier 5 jobs still require 100 Tier Points.

This causes players to unlock new traders and trade routes before those traders can actually offer the next quest tier.

 

[Revilo2332]

Version​

7 Days to Die 3.0 Experimental (b259)

Game Type​

Dedicated Server

Sandbox Settings​

• Tier Progression: 5
• Daily Quest Limit: 10
• Other sandbox settings modified (loot abundance, XP, etc.), but none should affect trader progression.

---

Description​

The Tier Progression sandbox setting appears to affect Opening Trade Routes / biome progression, but does not appear to affect Trader Job Tier progression, causing the two systems to become out of sync.

---

Expected Behavior​

With Tier Progression = 5, progression should require half the normal number of quests.
Since trader progression is point-based:

• Tier 1 Quest = 1 point
• Tier 2 Quest = 2 points
• Tier 3 Quest = 3 points
• Tier 4 Quest = 4 points
• Tier 5 Quest = 5 points

The expected cumulative point requirements would be:

Unlock	Expected Total Points
Tier 2	5
Tier 3	15
Tier 4	30
Tier 5	50
Tier 6	75

This represents completing 5 quests of each tier.

---

Actual Behavior​

After completing 5 Tier 1 quests:

• Opening Trade Routes unlocked.
• I was directed to Trader Jen.
• Neither Trader Rekt nor Trader Jen offered Tier 2 jobs.

I had to complete 5 additional Tier 1 quests (10 total Tier Points) before Tier 2 jobs became available.
The same behavior appears to repeat for Tier 3.
Current progression:

• Quest Log showed Tier III (27/30) while the sandbox setting was still 5.
• Traders only offered Tier 2 jobs.

I then changed the sandbox setting back to 10, restarted the server, advanced to the next in-game day, and checked multiple traders.
After doing so:

• The Quest Log changed to Tier II (27/30).
• Traders still only offered Tier 2 jobs.

---

Testing Performed​

• Changed Tier Progression from 5 back to 10.
• Restarted the dedicated server.
• Advanced time from Day 22 to Day 23 using the server console.
• Checked multiple traders.
• Trader jobs remained Tier 2.

---

Possible Cause​

My theory is that two different progression systems are being used.
The Tier Progression sandbox setting appears to count completed quests, which unlocks Opening Trade Routes and biome progression.
However, Trader Job Tier progression appears to continue using Tier Points, still requiring the default cumulative point totals.
If true, the systems become unsynchronized.
For example:

• Opening Trade Routes unlock after 5 completed quests.
• Trader Tier 2 jobs still require 10 Tier Points.
• Trader Tier 3 jobs still require 30 Tier Points.
• Trader Tier 4 jobs still require 60 Tier Points.
• Trader Tier 5 jobs still require 100 Tier Points.

This causes players to unlock new traders and trade routes before those traders can actually offer the next quest tier.

Hello blunnug1992,

thank you for taking your time to create this bug report with this many details and nicely structured reproduction, it is greatly appreciated!
I'm sorry to inform you that this reported issue is a duplicate.
I'll attach your provided information to our internal ticket though.

Best,
Revi