Console [07/11] - Message from the Team - Progress update

Yes, you are probably right. The way how hardware and software deal with each other is changed completely so old saves will not be playable anymore but if the difference in performance and features is as big as we expect, you will not want to play the old stuff again. I think the framerate could be increased a little bit, along with faster landscape streaming and more stability so that it will deliver an entirely new experience of how the gameplay feels (especially for you guys on XB1).
And I am really looking forward for performance changes helping everyone who ended up screwed by having freezes and slowdowns during harder fights. Many guys here on the forum told us all that by far not the whole hardware power of the consoles is used at the moment and the engine upgrade probably makes it possible to use hardware resources which have been remaining unused yet.

But how excited you might be about these things I doubt the old save games will be running anymore. In my opinion there is a chance of 10-15%.
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I understand and I'm ok with it. I was holding out hope I could keep some of my old saves. I still have some prior to last summer's updates. I'll enjoy them while I can.

 
One thing is for sure. With the upgrade to the new Unity engine, it is almost guarunteed that old saves will not be compatible.
Keep that in mind as you wait.
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I'm anticipating this anyways. Makes sense with a brand new engine. This is gonna feel like a whole new game!

Ive already wiped my old saves in preparation for the new. Super excited & cant wait!!

 
One thing is for sure. With the upgrade to the new Unity engine, it is almost guarunteed that old saves will not be compatible.
Keep that in mind as you wait.
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No worries. We can all just let everyone know that they shouldn't have made the mistake of buying this game.

 
Considering TT and IG don't come to the forums would be my guess to why they don't answer any questions. They give Clare information and as soon as she gets that she updates us. They haven't been known to give anything up until they are ready to do so. I agree it would be nice to get more information but it is what it is the way I look at it.
I can only guess and could be way off. I know PC updated to to Unity 2018.2 around the towards the end of when they was getting close to releasing A17. They thought it would help a lot and they was right. They thought it wouldn't be much issues but they was wrong so they been dealing with some extra unknown issues because of it.

Now maybe or maybe not can only guess but console might be running into similar problems and they are trying to work things out. Maybe they didn't try to do the same and they are still working on things as scheduled. Like GermanPatroit said he guessed around October and I made a guess it would be about the same between October-December. I might of said September-December but either way when they said later this year and seeing how much work and how long PC has done even before they updated to Unity 2018.2 that this kind of update isn't like other updates. What they have to do is a lot work. If PC didn't update to Untiy 2018.2 it would of still took a long time with what all they had to do and the coding for the game was made for it. Now console has to do the same but also do the ports along with it to get things to work on console.

I know everyone is looking forward to the update and is ready for it even myself is ready and looking forward to it. I know people are looking forward to any new information and again even myself is looking forward to it. As much as I understand this I know it is hard but try and be patient it will happen before you know it.
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Yaas! But now is the time on Schprockets where we dance!

 
@Clare,

The talk about old saves not working. Would it be possible about seeing that something is put in the patch notes on the actual system? Like ps4 if I go to view latest update some games have a list of changes and some don't. I think it would be a good idea to have something in the notes that covers something about this. Not everyone that has the game visit the forums.

 
I'm anticipating this anyways. Makes sense with a brand new engine. This is gonna feel like a whole new game!
Ive already wiped my old saves in preparation for the new. Super excited & cant wait!!
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might be waiting a while yet

 
@Clare,
The talk about old saves not working. Would it be possible about seeing that something is put in the patch notes on the actual system? Like ps4 if I go to view latest update some games have a list of changes and some don't. I think it would be a good idea to have something in the notes that covers something about this. Not everyone that has the game visit the forums.
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While I do not know if this will be the case with the update, I wholeheartedly agree. There is only a fraction of the player base on the forums, and even on social media. As I said, I do not know if this will be the case but you bring up a very good point and I'll talk to the team about this.

 
Probably a warning before the update installs too, considering this was sold as a finished product. Having an update wipe all your saves in the console isn't a standard thing. I know we deal with it a lot more on the PC when games get large updates, so we're a bit jaded.

I always keep backups so that if an automatic update causes problems, I can roll back and be fine again. I know with the X-Box guys this isn't an option thanks to Microshaft.

 
might be waiting a while yet
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Yeah i figure. Ive been playing other stuff to pass the time. Beat God of War, been playing some retro nes & super nes...waiting for the update.

I'm being as patient as i can be, lol!!

 
i actually gone back to GTAV and a bit of mafia 3 since its free this month, just filling the game time to update day. whenever that may be

 
While I do not know if this will be the case with the update, I wholeheartedly agree. There is only a fraction of the player base on the forums, and even on social media. As I said, I do not know if this will be the case but you bring up a very good point and I'll talk to the team about this.
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Cool, yeah it might not be the case but even so the kind of update it is going to be it just might be a good idea even if it is just for this time. I forget what game it was but I checked a update once and it gave just little info like just enough to know some changes was made and at the end said for full list of changes check here and gave the name of the website. I could be wrong but think it was like the division or might of been GTA 5. Anyway just thought it be a good idea is all with the kind of update it will be. Thanks

 
Yeah i figure. Ive been playing other stuff to pass the time. Beat God of War, been playing some retro nes & super nes...waiting for the update.I'm being as patient as i can be, lol!!
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Lol I been playing a bunch of retro games. I got this device that plugs up to my TV that has like 120GB worth of games on it. It is just a little box that you put a SD card in and you can hook up like 4 controllers. The I got SNES, NES 64 and ps3 controller right now hooked up to it. The SNES and NES 64 controller has been changed out with a USB cord. Some games are a little buggy but are playable. It is pretty nice I can't remember but want to say it has like 10,000 games on it. Some do repeat like if it came out on Nintendo and Sega and stuff like that but overall it has plenty of games on it to keep busy if you like that kind of stuff.

 
Lol I been playing a bunch of retro games. I got this device that plugs up to my TV that has like 120GB worth of games on it. It is just a little box that you put a SD card in and you can hook up like 4 controllers. The I got SNES, NES 64 and ps3 controller right now hooked up to it. The SNES and NES 64 controller has been changed out with a USB cord. Some games are a little buggy but are playable. It is pretty nice I can't remember but want to say it has like 10,000 games on it. Some do repeat like if it came out on Nintendo and Sega and stuff like that but overall it has plenty of games on it to keep busy if you like that kind of stuff.
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Heck yeah. I bought the retro duo version 3 i believe. It plays nes & super nes games. I bought some of those all in one carts. The one for super nes is awesome. Has just about ever super nes game ever made, with the exception of super mario rgp, starfox, & a few others (which sucks cuz those are great games).

The nes carts are cool too but like yours it has repeats & even some homebrew & modded games on it.

They pass the time until update day!!

 
Does it have the Lion King on it? I just re-bought that for the mega drive. Hands down the hardest game in existence... ...omg... That's why I hate giraffes in games...

 
Does it have the Lion King on it? I just re-bought that for the mega drive. Hands down the hardest game in existence... ...omg... That's why I hate giraffes in games...
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This is what I got you can look at the info and pull up the game list it has. Yes it has lion king on it lol.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/560513118/ultimate-retropie-console-loaded-with?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_ts1-a-electronics_and_accessories-video_games&utm_custom1=854920d4-54ea-4d93-9540-70c51123d18c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi63C0_fs3AIVhEGGCh1a3w1XEAQYASABEgLHsfD_BwE

It also has starfox, mario rpg and a crap load more. It is pretty cool I will say.

 
I always keep backups so that if an automatic update causes problems, I can roll back and be fine again. I know with the X-Box guys this isn't an option thanks to Microshaft.
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dont think you can roll back any updates on console, the game has to update before it launches so even if you install from disk it will try to update to the latest. nice try though blaming MS.

 
Will this fix the terrible draw and rendering issues as well? Played 6 months ago and couldnt stand not being able to see trees, grass, rocks, etc until I was within 20ft of them (and yes, distant TERRAIN is on, but that doesnt help with the actual environment), tried today and thought I spawned in a world with no trees.

 
Will this fix the terrible draw and rendering issues as well? Played 6 months ago and couldnt stand not being able to see trees, grass, rocks, etc until I was within 20ft of them (and yes, distant TERRAIN is on, but that doesnt help with the actual environment), tried today and thought I spawned in a world with no trees.
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Distant Terrain doesn't help with any of that. It only helps see the terrain. In A16 on PC they added distant POI not sure if that is coming to console or not but it will not help with trees. A17 that they are currently working on I think they are adding distant trees but again not sure if console will get it or not.

Maybe it is just me or maybe not but I have seen more trees pop up and around with distant terrain turned off. But you will not see as far.

 
Distant Terrain doesn't help with any of that. It only helps see the terrain. In A16 on PC they added distant POI not sure if that is coming to console or not but it will not help with trees. A17 that they are currently working on I think they are adding distant trees but again not sure if console will get it or not.
Maybe it is just me or maybe not but I have seen more trees pop up and around with distant terrain turned off. But you will not see as far.
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Yeah, seems it's one or the other, which I don't totally understand, these consoles are powerful enough to render this stuff for a fair distance.

 
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