Console [06/06] Message from the Team

Yeah that’s a little off topic here. Maybe post it in the discussion forum. I’ve wondered the same thing. From what I can tell, and not being scientific about it is that the surface deposits, birds nest, trash bags, and those dead scrubby trees you can one shot with a stone axe randomly respawn when the area resets. I always just chop them up as I loot them and in time there are always more. The larger tress like pine, spruce, maple I’m not sure. Would need to clear a few areas and the stay away until they reset to see.
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Yeah i know its a little off topic but didnt see the need to create a thread just for that simple question.

Oh well, i suppose i should test it out sometime if im that curious.

I also hope we get the new gun mods in this update, getting rid of the gun parts. Although im not holding my breath as i know this is an alpha 17 addition.

 
Yeah i know its a little off topic but didnt see the need to create a thread just for that simple question Oh well, i suppose i should test it out sometime if im that curious.

I also hope we get the new gun mods in this update, getting rid of the gun parts. Although im not holding my breath as i know this is an alpha 17 addition.
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I wouldn't on breath either. But with that said it looks as if A17 will drop before this update so depending how the new gun system is put in and if it is not that buggy it very well have a chance to be put in. It just all depends. They put a few things from A16 in the summer update so this is why I say this. Just with all that said don't hold breath at the same time lol

 
I wouldn't on breath either. But with that said it looks as if A17 will drop before this update so depending how the new gun system is put in and if it is not that buggy it very well have a chance to be put in. It just all depends. They put a few things from A16 in the summer update so this is why I say this. Just with all that said don't hold breath at the same time lol
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Thats the reason i had a small hope we might get some A17 stuff snuck in.

Ill be happy with whatever tho. I just got back in to playing again, been having a blast.

Cant wait for the new stuff & better optimization.

 
...The abysmal hardware limitations on the console....
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In your opinion, how much RAM do you think the console needs to run a game like 7 Days? Is the issue the RAM alone or RAM and Processor? Do developers ever try to convince Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo to beef up their hardware so it can adequately run their games and do the console makers ever listen?

 
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In your opinion, how much RAM do you think the console needs to run a game like 7 Days? Is the issue the RAM alone or RAM and Processor? Do developers ever try to convince Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo to beef up there hardware so it can adequately run their games and do the console makers ever listen?
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The ram on the pro and the X are probably ok I mean they could probably do with a little extra but could probably manage where they are. The CPU for both are still under specs for this game. The processor I think on console is a I3 or something and this game recommends at least the I5 but the I7 would be better. The issue with Sony and Microsoft is they system it self. They prepare a game system get it out together then sale it. Then it is about 6 to 8 years before they release a new one (not a updated version of the one they just released a complete new one) by the time you go from putting it together and put them out to sale they system is already outdated compared to a PC. They can put a game system together right now with high end specs as a PC. Sale it and it will be outdated shortly after. PC parts update/upgrade so often it isn't even funny. They have money to do so because parts are sold separately by a different company and so on. So these companies that make all these PC parts have money to do test after test to improve the next computer part they put out. Sony and Microsoft don't make that much money off the consoles to do testing after testing like that. They do enough to make sure you get a good gaming console but again it is already outdated by the time you buy it. Why you think console cost 400 when released and a pretty good PC is double to triple that price and a really good high end gaming computer is even more. This is just a little info about it and way more info on the subject is out there. I just kinda did a pretty short version put of the top of my head. It can be really complicated to understand it all unless you do some good research. But if you do you would understand a little to why. But hope the little I shared may help.

 
.....But hope the little I shared may help.
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Yes, it does. Thanks for the input. If I want a decent PC to game on, I can of course build one from scratch to make sure it has enough RAM, a sufficient processor and a solid graphics card to keep up with the technology for a few years. And the console makers love to offer consoles with different specs to cater to the casual gamer vs the hardcore gamer. Why not offer a console that has PC like specs, demo it running a game like 7 Days and sell it to the hardcore gamer willing to buy it? Is it feasible to offer a separate "build your own console" model to the console community? Decide how much RAM you want, a faster processor and place a custom order. I wonder if something like that could work.

 
It's been a year since the last substantive update. Can you please give us an ETA on the Unity upgrade?

I don't think that's an unreasonable request.

"At some point that is later then now, there will probably be an update that adds some new stuff" is not "news." All of us already knew that.

If you're not going to offer us an actual status update, then don't jerk us around by giving us a faux status update.

Just be honest and tell console players, "We don't care about you; you are not a priority. Maybe you'll get new stuff if TFP, IG, and TT get super bored or something."

Why is it so hard to offer an expected ETA? Is the team so bad at their jobs that after all this time, they still have no idea how long projects take?

 
More content?

We don't care about content. I just want the game to not crash after every 2 hours. And the sad part is me and two friends are on the one x and it seems to run better on the og Xbox and Xbox s.

 
I have never run into the issues you mention running the game on PS4. So I'm biased.

But I haven't played the game in months because there's nothing new and interesting to do in it.

Furthermore, the focus of the update is irrelevant to the core of my argument, that the devs should, by now, understand roughly how long they expect a project to take.

Saying, "there will be a patch sometime that is later than now" is farting in the wind.

 
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Not sure I would call the argument that the "console versions were sold as a finished product" just a "screw you to people who can't afford high-end PCs." in fact, I'd argue the exact opposite. The consoles being a finished product of the A14 version shows two interrelated things.
1. It shows that neither the publisher TaleTell Games nor the developer Iron Galaxy have any obligation to add new content or updated features or game engine.

2. It shows that despite there being no obligation to add content and updates TT and IG are willing to do so. At least as much as the engine and hardware limitations will allow.

That doesn't strike me as a screw you to console players at all. The point being made is that TT and IG could have just said "screw you" we aren't adding anything and just walked away, but they didn't. And it also shows this isn't simply just about a cash grab either. Was it done to make money? Sure. That said, you have to wonder how much money they are actually making with the continued work they are putting in. With no DLCs or lootboxes and the like they aren't bringing it in hand over fist. Especially when you take into account discount sales.

I can sympathize with the frustration and anger with such long update periods and the lack of information. In the end you just have to decide if the waiting is worth it for you. For me, it is. For you, maybe not.
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So, if I decide it's not worth the wait, does that mean I get a refund?

Didn't think so.

The fact is, IG, TT, and TFP have decided they've made all the money they're gonna make on console, so console development and bug fixing is their lowest priority.

Telling us that, "there will be a patch at some later time" is just farting in the wind. Of course there's always going to be patches eventually; that's how it's always worked. We already expected that.

This isn't an announcement. This is a PR ruse to tell console players to ST♥U.

I'll stop complaining when the devs give us an actual rough timeline. Until that happens, the devs have done nothing to inspire any confidence they care about the console experience.

I wouldn't recommend anyone buy this buggy, unfinished game for more that $5. At the $39.99 price I paid, I got ripped off, and unfortunately I have no recourse but to keep insisting they make the game I paid $39.99 for worth $39.99.

 
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The ram on the pro and the X are probably ok I mean they could probably do with a little extra but could probably manage where they are. The CPU for both are still under specs for this game. The processor I think on console is a I3 or something and this game recommends at least the I5 but the I7 would be better.
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This is inaccurate. It took me five seconds to Google this: https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/30/16569422/sony-ps4-pro-vs-microsoft-xbox-one-x-spec-comparison
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That doesn't even cover details about how the RAM on the XB1-X runs slower than it's predecessor due to the new memory management architecture.

Both the PS4 Pro and the XB1-X are pathetic excuses for an upgrade. Especially considering how old and outdated the original hardware was when it released.

I also post the link to the sticky thread with detailed hardware specs explaining precisely why the consoles are too slow to have the fun things that exist on the PC.

Optimization in the update they are currently working on is really the only thing that's going to allow much to be added to the console version.

Oh, and just for those who are waiting for the next next-gen consoles.....

Things are looking a tab bleak atm.

 
We don't care about content. I just want the game to not crash after every 2 hours. And the sad part is me and two friends are on the one x and it seems to run better on the og Xbox and Xbox s.
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I play the game on PS4 and it crashes only once a week when I play it for 3 or 4 times per week for some hours. So I can't confirm this amount of crashes on PS4.

 
I play the game on PS4 and it crashes only once a week when I play it for 3 or 4 times per week for some hours. So I can't confirm this amount of crashes on PS4.
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My wife plays this 3 to 5 hours per day, 7 days a week on PS4, and it only crashes about once a month.

 
So, if I decide it's not worth the wait, does that mean I get a refund?
Didn't think so.

The fact is, IG, TT, and TFP have decided they've made all the money they're gonna make on console, so console development and bug fixing is their lowest priority.

Telling us that, "there will be a patch at some later time" is just farting in the wind. Of course there's always going to be patches eventually; that's how it's always worked. We already expected that.

This isn't an announcement. This is a PR ruse to tell console players to STFU.

I'll stop complaining when the devs give us an actual rough timeline. Until that happens, the devs have done nothing to inspire any confidence they care about the console experience.

I wouldn't recommend anyone buy this buggy, unfinished game for more that $5. At the $39.99 price I paid, I got ripped off, and unfortunately I have no recourse but to keep insisting they make the game I paid $39.99 for worth $39.99.
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I started to respond to this, got abot a sentence and a half in when it hit me. I just don't care anymore. People gonna bitch, whine, and complain as they like. I said my peace already, so I'm good.

 
My wife plays this 3 to 5 hours per day, 7 days a week on PS4, and it only crashes about once a month.
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I've been playing this copy of the game on PS4 for about 2 years now. It has crashed maybe three times in that amount of time. I've had one "base reset" thus far, and I use quotes because the reset was just a door. Nothing else. So I've either been very lucky or had an exceptionally rare game with fewer bugs. And bear in mind, I'm talking 5 hours or more evertime without major issues. So not sure what the deal is. I have experienced the disconnection issues, but have a feeling those were mostly due to unstable internet not a bug. Since I was able to play entended periods with those same people.

 
I'm happy that you are happy southern boy from Georgia. But it us hard to believe that out of all those years you have only had those problems.

 
That doesn't even cover details about how the RAM on the XB1-X runs slower than it's predecessor due to the new memory management architecture.Both the PS4 Pro and the XB1-X are pathetic excuses for an upgrade. Especially considering how old and outdated the original hardware was when it released.

I also post the link to the sticky thread with detailed hardware specs explaining precisely why the consoles are too slow to have the fun things that exist on the PC.

Optimization in the update they are currently working on is really the only thing that's going to allow much to be added to the console version.

Oh, and just for those who are waiting for the next next-gen consoles.....

Things are looking a tab bleak atm.
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He was completely wrong about the processors. They aren't even Intel. He was just blatantly talking out of his ass, couldn't bother to take five seconds to Google something before blathering completely inaccurately.

 
I've been playing this copy of the game on PS4 for about 2 years now. It has crashed maybe three times in that amount of time. I've had one "base reset" thus far, and I use quotes because the reset was just a door. Nothing else. So I've either been very lucky or had an exceptionally rare game with fewer bugs. And bear in mind, I'm talking 5 hours or more evertime without major issues. So not sure what the deal is. I have experienced the disconnection issues, but have a feeling those were mostly due to unstable internet not a bug. Since I was able to play entended periods with those same people.
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Combined, my wife and I have probably played upwards of 1500 hours of 7 Days To Die on PS4 since the day it came out , probably right around half of it in split-screen, and we've also only had one base reset. That was nearly a year ago too.

 
So it pc getting unity 2018 and console is getting unity 2017? I thought I read this at one point just can’t remember also what version of unity was the pc version using before the new upgrade?

 
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