PC V3.0 Dead Hot Summer Dev Diary

HammerDano said:
which is all some of us are asking for.
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Us? You're about the only one I see on here constantly whining about wanting more info. Why don't you apply and go work for them so maybe you can see every minute detail of every single thing, since that's what you seem to want? I guarantee they will never give you enough info to satisfy you, though at this point we both know that isn't possible. They could put out a new roadmap during the stream along with a minute-by-minute breakdown of the history of the acquisition and even what they have been eating for lunch and you'd just shift to something else to complain about. You've proven that a few times already.
 
bdubyah said:
Us? You're about the only one I see on here constantly whining about wanting more info. Why don't you apply and go work for them so maybe you can see every minute detail of every single thing, since that's what you seem to want? I guarantee they will never give you enough info to satisfy you, though at this point we both know that isn't possible. They could put out a new roadmap during the stream along with a minute-by-minute breakdown of the history of the acquisition and even what they have been eating for lunch and you'd just shift to something else to complain about. You've proven that a few times already.
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oh goody @bdubyah has unblocked me

TFP have been saying for at least 6 months that they would tell us about their plans "in due time"...and during that time they sold the company and told us "we are still in charge of the game...the only thing that will change is the speed/size of the updates. ie more updates...smaller in size.
they've also said that the "plan" would stay the same until 4.0 Bandits...which IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT UPDATE...not something far off. Behaviour is looking for people good in the "live service" arena...I have to ask: why are YOU not asking for more information? and also, why so hostile bdubs? maybe go back to ignoring me?
 
HammerDano said:
i am far more curious about when we are going to get briefed about the future plans for the game...what the road map moving forward will look like.
I'd like to know what their vision of 7 dtd as a live service game looks like...and how it changes what has been built.
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Where did Behavior or TFP state that 7d2d would be a live service game? Is this supposition on your part or do you have an actual statement from either to support this?
 
HammerDano said:
oh goody @bdubyah has unblocked me

TFP have been saying for at least 6 months that they would tell us about their plans "in due time"...and during that time they sold the company and told us "we are still in charge of the game...the only thing that will change is the speed/size of the updates. ie more updates...smaller in size.
they've also said that the "plan" would stay the same until 4.0 Bandits...which IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT UPDATE...not something far off. Behaviour is looking for people good in the "live service" arena...I have to ask: why are YOU not asking for more information? and also, why so hostile bdubs? maybe go back to ignoring me?
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Never blocked you, just took a break and sat back and watched you make a constant fool of yourself. I'm not asking because at the end of the day I just don't really care. They have my money and I have the game. If they announce tomorrow that all future updates will be sold as DLCs for $50 a pop I will no longer support the game and that would be the end of it. I don't need to be spoon fed information about their business dealings, that changes nothing to me. You act like you are a shareholder or something. You're not. 4.0 will be end of the year at best, so it isn't that close. And even if it were coming next month, who cares? Why do you act like if they don't give you every little detail beforehand it makes any difference? And no hostility, just tired of you thinking anyone other than yourself gives a ■■■■ about the minutia of it all.
 
Kosmic Kerman said:
Where did Behavior or TFP state that 7d2d would be a live service game? Is this supposition on your part or do you have an actual statement from either to support this?
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if you look at the jobs posted by Behaviour for 7 dtd, in the Senior Community Manager listing they specifically state "in this role you will" : Define and Lead the community strategy for 7 days to die as a live service title.

That's where I got that from.
 
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bdubyah said:
Never blocked you, just took a break and sat back and watched you make a constant fool of yourself. I'm not asking because at the end of the day I just don't really care. They have my money and I have the game. If they announce tomorrow that all future updates will be sold as DLCs for $50 a pop I will no longer support the game and that would be the end of it. I don't need to be spoon fed information about their business dealings, that changes nothing to me. You act like you are a shareholder or something. You're not. 4.0 will be end of the year at best, so it isn't that close. And even if it were coming next month, who cares? Why do you act like if they don't give you every little detail beforehand it makes any difference? And no hostility, just tired of you thinking anyone other than yourself gives a ■■■■ about the minutia of it all.
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If you really don't care, how do questions about what is happening....trigger you?
 
Anyone who has watched their dev streams knows not to expect much of any kind of actual Q&A. TFP has shown repeatedly that they aren't able to manage that. They'll try to find a question to answer in a fast scrolling chat and maybe answer one or two before giving up. They haven't learned how to do Q&A when streaming... Either get the questions in advance and ignore them from chat or else get a moderator (or many) who will grab the questions from chat and put them in a shared doc that the devs can go through without looking at chat themselves. But they don't do either, so don't expect any answers they aren't always planning to just tell us.
 
Riamus said:
Anyone who has watched their dev streams knows not to expect much of any kind of actual Q&A. TFP has shown repeatedly that they aren't able to manage that. They'll try to find a question to answer in a fast scrolling chat and maybe answer one or two before giving up. They haven't learned how to do Q&A when streaming... Either get the questions in advance and ignore them from chat or else get a moderator (or many) who will grab the questions from chat and put them in a shared doc that the devs can go through without looking at chat themselves. But they don't do either, so don't expect any answers they aren't always planning to just tell us.
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then...doesn't that just seem like a deliberate strategy?
 
HammerDano said:
If you really don't care, how do questions about what is happening....trigger you?
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There's a level of enthusiasm that is adorable; like in living vicariously through ours kids and such.
There's a level of enthusiasm that is weird; like vegans, and subculture expressions (goth, punk, etc) in the workplace.
There's a level of enthusiasm that is obsessive; like repeatedly demanding answers to questions, or stalking someone.
There's a level of enthusiasm that is intrusive; like spamming every news thread about "look at me, I still want to know".
There's a level of enthusiasm that is delusional; like making wild claims around imaginary numbers of PvPers and such.

I make no claim of your position on that; but use it to understand that any pet peeve one has, is just complete nonsense to most others. At best fun to watch when someone discovers the taste of mustard, but gets real annoying once they decide to keep painting the house in it.
 
Riamus said:
Anyone who has watched their dev streams knows not to expect much of any kind of actual Q&A. TFP has shown repeatedly that they aren't able to manage that. They'll try to find a question to answer in a fast scrolling chat and maybe answer one or two before giving up. They haven't learned how to do Q&A when streaming... Either get the questions in advance and ignore them from chat or else get a moderator (or many) who will grab the questions from chat and put them in a shared doc that the devs can go through without looking at chat themselves. But they don't do either, so don't expect any answers they aren't always planning to just tell us.
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If I was "Grandpa AI" and TFP hired me to moderate the stream, I'd use AI to statistically live-pick the most asked questions in the chat... :sneaky:
 
theFlu said:
There's a level of enthusiasm that is adorable; like in living vicariously through ours kids and such.
There's a level of enthusiasm that is weird; like vegans, and subculture expressions (goth, punk, etc) in the workplace.
There's a level of enthusiasm that is obsessive; like repeatedly demanding answers to questions, or stalking someone.
There's a level of enthusiasm that is intrusive; like spamming every news thread about "look at me, I still want to know".
There's a level of enthusiasm that is delusional; like making wild claims around imaginary numbers of PvPers and such.

I make no claim of your position on that; but use it to understand that any pet peeve one has, is just complete nonsense to most others. At best fun to watch when someone discovers the taste of mustard, but gets real annoying once they decide to keep painting the house in it.
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it seems like asking anything approaching accountability REALLY triggers some people on here... instead of dismantling an argument, they make ad hominem attacks. I find that annoying as ■■■■. straw manning is a low life activity imo.

I vastly prefer direct communication. feel free to dm me if you'd like to say something you'd prefer the rest of class doesn't see...that goes for anyone...including Bdubs.
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Jost Amman said:
If I was "Grandpa AI" and TFP hired me to moderate the stream, I'd use AI to statistically live-pick the most asked questions in the chat... :sneaky:
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there's some chance a "real" question might get thru using that logic...just saying
 
Roland said:
It’s hilarious that you are attempting to smear the very thing that will breathe life into PvP like no other update before it. Many of the “broke settings” are meant to return the game to the days before there were RPG elements and player progression— you know? The golden age of PVP for this game?
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That`s the point for him, to bring back the easy way. But for him only and "the millions" probably, anyway.

And I wish him good, I mean it, I remember very well that you and many of us said or repeated, in a very well explained matter that 7 days to die gives us really many ways to play and have fun, with the new update and presets and so on, I hope it pleasures much many people than before.
 
Can anyone who works at the team confirm if the structural bug when starting quests has been addressed? I just started a quest over at Area 7 and huge portions of land started collapsing.
 
Dark Sun said:
Can anyone who works at the team confirm if the structural bug when starting quests has been addressed? I just started a quest over at Area 7 and huge portions of land started collapsing.
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That's still happening? Ugh. I thought that would have been fixed in 2.6. Definitely needs to be fixed before 3.0. It's a pretty serious bug.
 
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faatal said:
There should be some news within a week.

I will say that today I added a new RWG biome layout of Circle 2, as a personal side task, which I am looking forward to playing on. Small feature, but cool as it gives you two separated versions of each biome.
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I hope you've realized how exciting RWG is. 🤝
These are truly interesting and engaging challenges for a programmer. They allow you to break free from the constraints of a specific task and express your creativity.
 
HammerDano said:
if you look at the jobs posted by Behaviour for 7 dtd, in the Senior Community Manager listing they specifically state "in this role you will" : Define and Lead the community strategy for 7 days to die as a live service title.

That's where I got that from.
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Looking at other job postings that does not appear to be a one off. The job posting for design director is looking for someone with experience on a “successful live multiplayer game.”
 
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