POIs with better stability

Old Crow said:
The POIs in this game are all really impressive. But can we stop with the pretty buildings that have wonky or poor durability? Tried of Lord-Bearing Torch Syndrome.
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Stability in a voxel game isn't as easy to figure out as it might seem. For example, you build a room and all the stability shows as green (good). But you don't notice that the stability is due to a single, commonly destroyed item such as a trash pile. As long as that's there, the stability is perfect, but as soon as it's destroyed, it isn't. Unless you go through and test every single item that can be destroyed, it's very easy to miss problems until someone finds them later. Considering the very large number of POI in the game and most have no problems with stability, I would say they've done a good job. Any stability problems are really no different from any other bug... it's just something that needs reported and will be fixed.
 
I have noticed this when breaking down military tents, some fall on top of me after breaking down a bed frame or breaking an IV cart. I always thought it was on purpose acting as a trap of sorts to cause some minor injury.
 
Some times structural integrity isn't easy to arrange and there have certainly been times when I have had a design run the ragged edge. I don't know that a torch has been something I've seen holding up a building, but things like glass in windows can. Entry ways (without a door block) poke holes in a wall's stability, but modern construction uses a header to strengthen those holes for doors and windows.

Many times there are certain columns that are holding up the building. Lose one of those and you get some collapse.

Bridges are particularly troublesome. Look at TFP's bridges over roads. They're two lanes instead of four for a reason. For me to get a four lane bridge to work on a tile I recall really having to work at it.

Maybe if the Prefab Editor were to use the current scheme, but the game actually was slightly more permissive by maybe two blocks of span?
 
OPR357 said:
I have noticed this when breaking down military tents, some fall on top of me after breaking down a bed frame or breaking an IV cart. I always thought it was on purpose acting as a trap of sorts to cause some minor injury.
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Yeah, tents are especially troublesome because the tent blocks intentionally have low "glue" so it doesn't take much to cause a collapse. I wouldn't worry about those since that's probably not going to change. But POI that are using normal building blocks shouldn't collapse without a good reason (such as destroying a pillar that supports something). Things like looting a trash pile or other container causing a collapse isn't what you want to see happen and should be reported.
 
zztong said:
Entry ways (without a door block) poke holes in a wall's stability, but modern construction uses a header to strengthen those holes for doors and windows.
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Do doors provide structural stability now? I know they used to, then they removed it (because people were building pillars out of doors and zombies didn't attack open doors, or some other exploit I can't quite remember) but given that broken doors have left over frames now, maybe they do again?
 
Vaeliorin said:
Do doors provide structural stability now? I know they used to, then they removed it (because people were building pillars out of doors and zombies didn't attack open doors, or some other exploit I can't quite remember) but given that broken doors have left over frames now, maybe they do again?
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I thought they always did, but I'd have to check. I thought it was open doorways that I had to worry about, but I could just be misremembering.
 
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