Mac rifle shots impart absurd velocity on small animals

Crater Creator

Community Moderator
Version
v2.3 b8
Platform
Mac
Some weapons, notably rifles, can impart insane velocities on small animals. Depending on how you hit it and the angle of the terrain, the ragdoll can pop up or skip forwards like a flat rock on water. It's funny the first time, but the issue isn't just that it looks like Looney Tunes. You can actually lose your kill in the grass when you're hunting for real. A user on the Steam forum says they lost 6 of 7 small animal kills due to this.

Potential fixes, if interested:
Rebalance the physics values for rifle bullets, small animals, or both.
Add a cap on ragdoll velocity.
Allow Animal Tracker to continue to show animals for a short time after death, instead of only living animals.
 
Reproduction Steps
While in the game, enable debug mode and creative mode.
Acquire, equip, and load one of the rifle weapons with ammo. The effect is more pronounced/easier to reproduce with higher tier weapons.
Using the F6 menu, spawn a rabbit in front of you.
Shoot the rabbit with the rifle.

Expected result: the bullet pushes the rabbit ragdoll away by a plausible distance - a few meters at most - such that it doesn’t become significantly harder to find and harvest.
Actual result: the bullet often launches the rabbit high into the air to land 50+ meters away.
Link to Logs
https://pastebin.com/vvaPyH2G
Link to Screenshot/Video
https://youtu.be/Kx24y4Hy7Pc
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Certaines armes, notamment les fusils, peuvent transmettre une vitesse incroyable aux petits animaux. Selon la façon dont vous le frappez et l'angle du terrain, le ragdoll peut surgir ou bondir comme un rocher plat sur l'eau. C'est amusant la première fois, mais le problème ne vient pas seulement de son apparence digne des Looney Tunes. On peut même perdre sa proie dans l'herbe lorsqu'on chasse pour de vrai. Un utilisateur du forum Steam a déclaré avoir perdu 6 de ses 7 proies à cause de cela.

Corrections potentielles, si vous êtes intéressé :
Rééquilibrez les valeurs physiques des balles de fusil, des petits animaux ou des deux.
Ajoutez un plafond à la vitesse du ragdoll.
Autoriser Animal Tracker à continuer d'afficher les animaux pendant une courte période après leur mort, au lieu de n'afficher que les animaux vivants.
What, big problem😵😭🤣
 
Oh yeh, while I don't think I've ever lost a carcass, I get really tired of having to chase vulture corpses after I knock them 25 meters away with a club. I am aware though that some players compete for how far they can make something fly.
 
Some weapons, notably rifles, can impart insane velocities on small animals. Depending on how you hit it and the angle of the terrain, the ragdoll can pop up or skip forwards like a flat rock on water. It's funny the first time, but the issue isn't just that it looks like Looney Tunes. You can actually lose your kill in the grass when you're hunting for real. A user on the Steam forum says they lost 6 of 7 small animal kills due to this.

Potential fixes, if interested:
Rebalance the physics values for rifle bullets, small animals, or both.
Add a cap on ragdoll velocity.
Allow Animal Tracker to continue to show animals for a short time after death, instead of only living animals.
I have seen this, and it can be pretty frustrating.

"Allow Animal Tracker to continue to show animals for a short time after death, instead of only living animals." I really like this idea. I am often losing chickens and rabbits in the grass of the Pine Forest. It is not so bad in the other biomes.
 
Heh. I love sending things flying. But I agree that if you are trying to loot an animal kill, it can be frustrating.

I like the idea of making the animal tracker show corpses. That could either be for a limited time period, or if you want to avoid adding more timers for performance reasons, it could be set to show only corpses that have something in them so that they aren't shown after you've looted them. That still means some people might be annoyed by having to chase the corpse they sent flying even if they can see it, but it would prevent losing a corpse.

An alternative would be to prevent regular animals from being sent flying too far (chickens, rabbits, coyotes, etc.) and only allow it for "dead" animals and zombies. I say to leave it as-is for "dead" animals and zombies so you can still have fun sending things like vultures flying. I know that means you have to chase down vultures, but I really like sending them flying and wouldn't want that to go away. This would still help most hunting situations.

Yet another option would be a game option that either affects everyone in the game or only the user who sets it, that lets you enable or disable the ability to send things flying. I'm not sure if that could even work on an individual level (probably not), but it could work as a game setting for everyone. That means that if you're playing with others who want the same setting (allowed or not allowed), you can have it the way you want.
 
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