Well, it's obviously what he's referring to with "looting mail boxes and trash". If you want to argue about the difference of the definition of "a few" with him, you're free to do so.
About 14 points total. 4 from starting quest and about 10 levels to get intelligence to level 8 and intelligence mastery to level 3. It aint that difficult to get to level 11 then go on a trash and mailbox looting spree. So it definitely is a few to get into a super easy loot fest of books and magazines with little to no danger. Heck all you really need to get started is to be able to unlock the bookworm perk from intelligence mastery.
At the same time, how long does it take to craft X items? Unless you are talkinf about something that uses end game materials like forged steel, you should not have trouble competing that in even less time of you want to. The same for other things like attacking with a specific weapon X times.
If memory serves, there was no skill associated with farming in A16. You harvested plants with E, and if you wanted more yield, you had to make (or harvest from the burnt biome) fertilizer.
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I don't know that it's so much a problem, but it is boring and tedious. Stuff like this is where people are coming by the notion that the game is a treadmill now compared to what it once was. Honestly, I don't think there's anything that can be done about that at this point unless the devs decide to overhaul the game themselves and I don't think that likely. They're on a schedule; they're on a budget (of time and money); and it's too late in the development cycle to make major changes, imo.
I think they would be better off just removing mailboxes and newspaper stands and then reduce the number of required magazines to compensate. Then you just gain the magazines as you clear POI, which would feel more natural. Yes, a bookstore will still be a good find, but that also is more natural than running to every mailbox and newspaper stand you find
I don't know. I kind of acclimated to checking the mailboxes and newspaper stands as I go. I don't go out of my way to do that. They have to be in my path of travel or they don't get checked.
Same for me, but it does remove the gamey aspect of it for those who just run around looting those. You'd actually have to look in POI.
Again, I don't know. That would seem like gamification to me, more at forced as opposed to natural.
Are min-maxers. Plain and simple.
Who cares?
How anyone could overlook those trash piles is beyond me. The things people will throw away...from weapon parts to adhesive. Mostly lead, but who's counting?
That's a proper sidetrack, I was merely explaining ElCab what another poster meant... they have nice stuff, yup. But if "you're smart enough", they contain knowledge, 25% chance for any book in any trash. Given actual bookshelves are often dealing out just paper, that's a whole lotta learning from clean-up duties - in the balance side of things, a little weird. "The INT guy" just became "the cleaning lady" of the group...
You get it by specing eight points in intellect. That's not a few points, that's an intellect spec character.That's a proper sidetrack, I was merely explaining ElCab what another poster meant... they have nice stuff, yup. But if "you're smart enough", they contain knowledge, 25% chance for any book in any trash. Given actual bookshelves are often dealing out just paper, that's a whole lotta learning from clean-up duties - in the balance side of things, a little weird. "The INT guy" just became "the cleaning lady" of the group...
You're still trying to argue with me about the size of "a few"? Wrong guy, I never made the claim myself ..
