Callum123456789
Survivor
I think you SHOULD read into what I said better, where did I say it was better? I was saying the later iteration of LBD was better than the previous LBD iterations, I said I like the current system....jeez Louise.
PC V2.0 Storms Brewing Dev Diary
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Space4Ace
Survivor
And I say that you can still play A16 if it's something you would like to revisit someday because of "that refined version of LBD was pretty great", no more no less.
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The update could be Build 10, which is a tiny fix, or maybe just a Steam shaders update.
V2.1 Stable
b10 hotfix
Fixed
Pimp hat does now show up without having to start the game twice.
Purple Pimp hat is now redeemable for Xbox Console and PC.
requires reconnecting of your Xbox account
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PoloPoPo
Refugee
I agree with you on that, and that is exactly what went wrong with the game.
Btw has anybody ever mentioned here how overpowered the sledgehammer now is when you have read all sledgehammer books and never run out of stamina again? Club, sledgehammer and stun baton have always been very powerful, why did the sledgehammer get a boost? Meanwhile we are reading sharp sticks books but can't throw our spear anymore.
Dark Sun
Survivor
KirillWright
Scavenger
@faatal I think it is worth reducing the number of working vending machines in the world. Also significantly raise the prices for goods in the machines. This would make water and food much more valuable than they are now! It's just funny to buy everything at such low prices (especially all the drinks and candies) Please, convey this to the team.
LittleNightma
Survivor
I think the issue is leaning towards too much of one system. They should combine the two, with some skills requiring magazines and some requiring LBD.
Dark Sun
Survivor
Sounds like that would work well... for a mod.
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The vending machines reducing the probability for items like learning elixirs I would be in favor of. There's really no incentive to craft them at the moment.
LittleNightma
Survivor
Just like any suggestion could, but where is the fun in that?Sounds like that would work well... for a mod.
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I would disagree. It is still open world. I can drive around in a vast area without any problems, go to different cities, discover lonely places and check out nearly everything I want. I can solve problems in different ways. Except for some high level areas where I first have to do some very basic/trivial things first.
Other open world games have areas you can't really visit in the first days as well and they are still called open world games.
Here are some quotes from the wikipedia definition of open world games that indicate that "open world" is neither a clear cut definition nor an absolute decree that you must be able to go absolutely anywhere on day one.
"Open-world games still enforce many restrictions in the game environment, either because of absolute technical limitations or in-game limitations imposed by a game's linearity".
"While the openness of the game world is an important facet to games featuring open worlds, the main draw of open-world games is about providing the player with autonomy—not so much the freedom to do anything they want in the game (which is nearly impossible with current computing technology), but the ability to choose how to approach the game and its challenges in the order and manner as the player desires while still constrained by gameplay rules"
"Some open-world games, to guide the player towards major story events, do not provide the world's entire map at the start of the game, but require the player to complete a task to obtain part of that map, often identifying missions and points of interest when they view the map. This has been derogatorily referred to as "Ubisoft towers", as this mechanic was promoted in Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed series"
Dark Sun
Survivor
Well, it is certainly better than when Todd Howard advertised in Skyrim that you can ascend any mountain, meanwhile pointing to the only mountain that you could possibly climb in that game.
(afaik)
KirillWright
Scavenger
We need to talk about vending machines, there is a problem with that. Food and water are not valued at all!Sounds like that would work well... for a mod.
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The vending machines reducing the probability for items like learning elixirs I would be in favor of. There's really no incentive to craft them at the moment.
Dark Sun
Survivor
Not dismissing your argument, but... maybe not use them? Saying that earnestly, I'm considering doing the same thing. It makes no immersive sense how they're magically restocked every day anyway (outside of trader compounds... but why don't the traders sell the contents themselves???). It's the same reason why I don't loot any POI I've already cleared before. This includes, of course, no double dipping.
KirillWright
Scavenger
It would be nice if traders' vending machines didn't always work!
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I'm not talking about drastic measures. But they should take the time to do it.
EvilPolygons
Survivor
I get what you're saying, but my philosophy on game design has always been that the player shouldn't have to be their own game master. That's the game's job.
That said, there is a mod on the Nexus that prevents vending machines from ever restocking once they're out. There's also one that sets the restocking interval to like every 30 days or something.
The game already allows you to stop chunks and POIs from ever resetting, which solves the issue of looting POIs more than once. There's another mod (which I haven't tried yet) that completely stops you from taking a quest offer for a POI you've quested previously, which then totally puts a stop to that sort of double-dipping.
Dark Sun
Survivor
Totally fair, and I don't disagree with you, but sometimes the argument of should/should nots are a luxury, and if the player has the opportunity to provide their own bandaid fix, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot not to, is all.
Callum123456789
Survivor
Once upon a time ago....you could buy eggs and meat stews from vending machines lol....think the highest I saw was like 4 or 5 venison stews in a16/a17? Can't remember which one but they definitely got nerfed a lot since then, however the candy's in those things and the special drinks are a bit op imo, has anyone here even needed to craft any grandpa's awesome sauce or learning elixir in the past few updates? I know I haven't.
Dark Sun
Survivor
Not to mention if you're regularly buying from traders early game, those candy and canned food prices add up quick.
What would I want? Two forge ahead magazines, or two rock busters?
Lax
Scavenger
Can't it be said that LBD is still a part of the game in a subtle, indirect sort of way?
For example I love farming and notice how much XP I gain when harvesting crops. That XP eventually earns me skill points that I can use to increase Living off the Land to increase my farming skills even more.
For example I love farming and notice how much XP I gain when harvesting crops. That XP eventually earns me skill points that I can use to increase Living off the Land to increase my farming skills even more.