Dead Smarty
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Uh, oh... I could mention certain cultures seeing zombies as a real thing and oppose to this attitude but the last time something like that happened it derailed pretty fast...
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Roland
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There can be a scientific explanation for the swarm spitter. It doesn’t have to fall within the realm of magic. The demolisher zombie is obviously a human engineered design and not just happenstance or natural mutation/ evolution. Somebody is willfully weaponizing zombies and sending them out.
The plague spitter can fall into this category as well. If scientists somewhere are experimenting on zombies and creating monstrosities as weapons that could explain something as unnatural (even by zombie standards) as the plague spitter. There isn’t one virus that infects both people and bees and the monsters are not magic or voodoo based.
Someone more imaginative than I could probably come up with sci fi gobbledygook that sounds decent for how a symbiosis could be achieved and how perhaps the lower body temperature of the host zombie could allow a fungus based infestation of the bees to live in its body etc etc etc.
The frost claw is another engineered mutation by scientists and not necessarily some dark lord of magic.
All they need do is include a poi with environmental storytelling that “explains” the creation of the weirder monsters.
The plague spitter can fall into this category as well. If scientists somewhere are experimenting on zombies and creating monstrosities as weapons that could explain something as unnatural (even by zombie standards) as the plague spitter. There isn’t one virus that infects both people and bees and the monsters are not magic or voodoo based.
Someone more imaginative than I could probably come up with sci fi gobbledygook that sounds decent for how a symbiosis could be achieved and how perhaps the lower body temperature of the host zombie could allow a fungus based infestation of the bees to live in its body etc etc etc.
The frost claw is another engineered mutation by scientists and not necessarily some dark lord of magic.
All they need do is include a poi with environmental storytelling that “explains” the creation of the weirder monsters.
Adam the Waster
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I like to think that some mutate based off there environment but I like the idea of science going wrong kinda like stalker
Imagine if they made a cloaked zombie like the bloodsucker from stalker
Or able to weild tools/weapons
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Jost Amman
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And today I learned a new British word, nice! :typing:
Personally I prefer mumbo jumbo or lingo, but yours is probably more appropriate in this case.
BTW: everyone knows that flies "appear" out of long-dead bodies (not a pretty image, I know) so I could understand where the fly-spitter comes from.
4sheetzngeegles
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Aren't there entity size test tubes in the Dishong Tower?
zztong
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True, well quasi-scientific, but okay.
Next, somebody will say there could also be a scientific explanation for magic. At some point there becomes an element of disbelief for all of us.
Good point.
Space4Ace
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Higashi Pharmaceutical, and also some tests being done in Dr. Karen Higashi's house. The Pop and Pills factory also had some kind of testing done as well.
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4sheetzngeegles
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@Space4Ace
Thank you, I knew I had seen them in game, just wrong building.
Roland's post made me think of Faatal's post and the basic line of the conversation.
So if those are combined and used for suspension of disbelief. It opens up the possibilities.
Those buildings and Redmesa can be used as spawn points from a story perspective.
Thank you, I knew I had seen them in game, just wrong building.
Roland's post made me think of Faatal's post and the basic line of the conversation.
So if those are combined and used for suspension of disbelief. It opens up the possibilities.
Those buildings and Redmesa can be used as spawn points from a story perspective.
Dead Smarty
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Feels like getting into Freaker teritory if you look at it this way.
7 Days Gone to die?
4sheetzngeegles
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Magic to me was or is science without explanation.
Not the slight of hand type, I just consider that misdirection
or lying. But alchemy;iron to steel, levitation;anti-gravity.
Turducken:Now that can only be some weird magical science
without explanation for me.
EvilPolygons
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There isn't any need for magic when we have decades of cheesy sci-fi tropes that can explain away pretty much anything. Radiation, sentient hivemind viruses, extraterrestrial spores, mutagenic toxic waste, genetic experimentation gone awry -- take your pick.
Frankly, zombie flies are no more ridiculous than zombie humans or zombie bears. So let's just assume the disease has jumped species again, and is now using zombified flies to spread infection. Because that's how zombie viruses do.
As for the game mechanics with these things, I'd like to see the swarm be mostly immune to regular physical attacks. So having a torch or burning shaft weapon would be the best/fastest way to deal with them. I'm not expecting vanilla to work that way, however, so hopefully it will be easy to mod in.
longhairdfreak
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I have to admit, I’m more excited for this next release than most. I know it’s unlikely, but I always wished for tornadoes. Tearing trees and buildings apart as they go. I’m guessing the storms won’t be this… drastic, but I always have hoped. I’m really interested in how they do affect the environment.
The plague spitter has corpse breath that attracts flies, the female fly lays eggs in his mouth, he swallows them and larvae hatch in his stomach, consuming an extra layer of rotting tissue that regenerates whenever he feeds. The larvae store up enough energy for the pupal stage, and soon they develop into adult flies who use the spitter's stomach as protection and transport, while he uses them to find and incapacitate his prey. They return to his mouth after feeding. It's a symbiotic relationship. The flies being hematophagous explains why they spill red blood when the prey fights back and whacks them, we don't see their usual greenish yellow hemolymph when they get hurt, only what was in their stomach.
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4sheetzngeegles
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So maybe he's not so bad, having a combo of Zombietosis and IBS simultaneously would
make anyone a little grumpy.
Old Crow
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4sheetzngeegles
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I made up the story for him that he got the flu just before the outbreak,
and ate some milky macaroni. But had forgotten that he was lactose intolerant.
Although it does produce the same effect.
Gamida
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And today I learned a new British word, nice! :typing:
Personally I prefer mumbo jumbo or lingo, but yours is probably more appropriate in this case.
BTW: everyone knows that flies "appear" out of long-dead bodies (not a pretty image, I know) so I could understand where the fly-spitter comes from.
It is less British than you think from what I have read.
The term gobbledygook was coined by Maury Maverick, a former congressman from Texas and former mayor of San Antonio. When Maverick was chairman of the Smaller War Plants Corporation during World War II, he sent a memorandum that said: "Be short and use plain English. ... Stay off gobbledygook language." Maverick defined gobbledygook as "talk or writing which is long, pompous, vague, involved, usually with Latinized words." The allusion was to a turkey, "always gobbledygobbling and strutting with ridiculous pomposity.