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MichaelL. said:
In a similar vein, how hard would it be to create a new trigger class that only unlocks doors/hatches - not actually open/close them?
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I did this in my mod. When a trigger is triggered, the door "unlocks" into a new block that isn't secure. Using the lockpicking mechanic.

 

<block name="DoubleMansionDoorBrown">
    <property name="CreativeMode" value="None"/>
    <property name="Extends" value="DoubleMansionDoorWhite"/>
    <property name="CustomIcon" value="exteriorHouseDoorDoubleWhite"/>
    <property name="CustomIconTint" value="765024"/>
    <property name="TintColor" value="765024"/>
    <property name="SortOrder2" value="0101"/>
</block>

<block name="DoubleMansionLockedDoorBrown">
    <property name="CreativeMode" value="None"/>
    <property name="Extends" value="DoubleMansionDoorBrown"/>
    <property name="Class" value="SecureLoot"/>
    <property name="LootList" value="doorNest"/>
    <property name="DowngradeBlock" value="DoubleMansionDoorBrown"/>
        <property name="LockPickItem" value="VoidLockpick"/>
        <property name="LockPickTime" value="0.1"/>
</block>

 
Irushian said:
Where's the promised VR support?
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There will be some goals that won't be done until after gold. In the original kickstarter they listed some features that would be added after 1.0 release. They have since shuffled which features will be part of 1.0 and which will be after 1.0 due to the realities of development. VR support is not on the list for pre-gold.

 
Roland said:
There will be some goals that won't be done until after gold. In the original kickstarter they listed some features that would be added after 1.0 release. They have since shuffled which features will be part of 1.0 and which will be after 1.0 due to the realities of development. VR support is not on the list for pre-gold.
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What other features they plan for 1.0

 
Roland said:
How else am I supposed to achieve my move points for the day and close my ring?
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Imagine if the UI shows us a notification to switch hands, minding how tired that hand feels. And a screamer invites its friends to help along. That`s gonna be a party, isn`t gonna be  :D  

 
Heh, it is like the Wii Sports game of cycling.  Having to pedal by moving your hands non-stop was a failure.  Some things just aren't meant to be simulated in a game, even for VR.

 
Me pregunto si puedes usar la antorcha en una mano y el cuchillo en la otra, sería bueno usar ambas manos 🙂

 
zztong said:
Perhaps a swimming bonus is the set bonus for not wearing any clothes. :)
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Actually, maybe a "swimming debuff" if wearing armor/clothes. You jump in with heavy armor... down you go. In this way "normal naked swimming" can be made faster/use stamina, but all clothing/armor weighs you down making it harder to swim "up" :) . Maybe even "no swim animation" if the armor/clothes is too heavy, so you never leave the ground and can walk around underwater (while holding breath). This would make a "scuba" apparatus/mod look correct: wear it without heavy armor: swim, else "walk" on bottom.

and if boats are added, you wear armor and fall off in the middle of the ocean. down you go.

this is why a sea creature (other than zeds swimming) needs to exist: to punish if swim slow or walk under water. My vote is "zombie turtle or alligator" but since snakes are in the game it would probably be just a snake. Of course, the shark will always be welcome (something has to tip the boat over.... if there was a boat)

 
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doughphunghus said:
Actually, maybe a "swimming debuff" if wearing armor/clothes. You jump in with heavy armor... down you go. In this way "normal naked swimming" can be made faster/use stamina, but all clothing/armor weighs you down making it harder to swim "up" :) . Maybe even "no swim animation" if the armor/clothes is too heavy, so you never leave the ground and can walk around underwater (while holding breath). This would make a "scuba" apparatus/mod look correct: wear it without heavy armor: swim, else "walk" on bottom.

and if boats are added, you wear armor and fall off in the middle of the ocean. down you go.

this is why a sea creature (other than zeds swimming) needs to exist: to punish if swim slow or walk under water. My vote is "zombie turtle or alligator" but since snakes are in the game it would probably be just a snake. Of course, the shark will always be welcome (something has to tip the boat over.... if there was a boat)
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Does anyone swim enough for that to matter?

are there ever lakes large enough that you need a boat?

If you have a boat will it still be fun/cool to use it for the 30th trip?

I say finish up one 7D2D, double down on whatever unannounced games and get an early access going for a game with a modern engine that can generate worlds large enough to need a boat or need players to swim large distances to cross rivers. Then we can talk about swim animations and modes of travel for water.

 
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Fanatical_Meat said:
Does anyone swim enough for that to matter?

are there ever lakes large enough that you need a boat?

If you have a boat will it still be fun/cool to use it for the 30th trip?
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Without water transport, the answer is no.  It is just too slow and no good reason to do so.  This is also why RWG doesn't make very large bodies of water other than on the edge of the map.  But if they add some form of water transport (a raft had been worked on), then there would likely be a change to RWG to get larger bodies of water as the water wouldn't just be a nuisance anymore.  They would likely look into adding water enemies as well as that has been mentioned if water transportation was added.

There are masks that have flooded cities and people seem to enjoy those.  Though due to the slow movement in water, the water is usually shallow enough not to show you down.  So not as great as having it 5-10m deep.

 
Fanatical_Meat said:
Does anyone swim enough for that to matter?

are there ever lakes large enough that you need a boat?
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I doubt it. RWG doesn't really make usable water ways. If we could turn off the radiation zone you could maybe have a map that was an island. Teragon, on the other hand, can make navigable rivers.

I have had maps in the past with significant lakes and sometimes an island, but I'll bet that was from an A19 third-party map maker, Nitrogen. I could get big lakes when I was messing with Stamps in A20 RWG, but that feature isn't currently active in A21 (as far as I can tell).

Still, I wouldn't say swimming and boats are an important feature. If swimming buffs/debufs were easy/trivial, then go for it, otherwise I think you're right. I can't imagine a boat, but maybe crude a raft or canoe. I recall living on a raft in The Forest -- neat but not essential to 7d2d.

 
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