PC Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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daterxies said:
So is the learn by reading system going to be what was in here awhile ago, find a book read it and its learned?  Seems like we just went in a complete circle if thats the case.
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It's similar, but definitely not the same. It isn't one and done with each book now, you have to keep finding more of them to improve craft quality of weapons, and to unlock the higher tier weapons from what I've seen.

 
RipClaw said:
I do all of that but that doesn't mean I do everything to the same extent or enjoy everything equally. I doubt that there are players for whom this is the case.

In most cases, it's somewhere between "I'm doing this activity because it's necessary" and "I'm doing this activity because I love it". Hardly anyone will really hate an activity.
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*Raises hand*, I kinda hate farming. That doesn't take away or add anything from what you said I just wanted to say it lmao

 
meganoth said:
they will surely not add a dozen or more perks because those don't grow on trees.
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At least not until the learn-by-forestry system is ready, in Alpha 22.

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I didn't want it to distract from the dev diary but... yes. I'm excited to take on the expanded role.  :yo:

 
Crater Creator said:
At least not until the learn-by-forestry system is ready, in Alpha 22.
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Lol. I know someone who would do just fine with that considering they planted a forest surrounding my base while I was offline. When I joined (inside my base), I couldn't see much of anything from all the branches inside.  Heh.

 
So the past couple days I've been playing a perception only insane playthrough... and actually, I'm surprised how well spears are holding up so far.
It certainly wouldn't be viable with nightmare speed. Zombie speed is unchanged. Rushing the perk books, level 4+ javelin master and level 7+ perception makes it actually quite strong imo.

I actually think spears could become *over*powered in a21 funnily enough... we shall have to see. I can't wait.

 
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Hi @faatal! How were your holidays? Tell us about what you are working on now? Maybe you could show some new screenshot?
And I have a big request for you - could you please add to StatCompareMax parameters that are applied to vehicles through passive effects (LightIntensity, VehicleVelocityMaxPer and others)?  :)

 
I'll still check it out as I have every alpha hit or miss since 7 or so and I don't expect folks to agree here with me, but massive miss on this alpha.  MASSIVE.  Returning water flowing and increased car damage were the only positives I got out of it.  Baffling, terrible choices.  Not only are we not advancing in most areas we are going backwards to less diverse systems, limiting user choices, and causing additional grind.  

Also here for the annual bandit rug pull!

 
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Hello! I'm totally new here but i just wanted to say that I'm REALLY exited about the new levelling system.  It seems like it fixes all the problems currently present in the game. The water physics change is awesome, the new models are too. Hoping to see the new human models arrive, the current ones feel... Really dated. I don't like the new dew collector mechanic but is way better than nothing, right now there is no reason to not have always the buff of being full of water.

I just HOPE there was a limit to how many times an item can be repaired, or that they deal less damage when partially broken. Right know there is no fear or thinking when using weapons and tools and repair kits are fair to easy.

Glad to see the game is finally taking the survival path.

 
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Crater Creator said:
At least not until the learn-by-forestry system is ready, in Alpha 22.

I didn't want it to distract from the dev diary but... yes. I'm excited to take on the expanded role.  :yo:
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You're not around for a bit, and then things switch up on you... What is this madness?

 
Spidey2832 said:
I'll still check it out as I have every alpha hit or miss since 7 or so and I don't expect folks to agree here with me, but massive miss on this alpha.  MASSIVE.  Returning water flowing and increased car damage were the only positives I got out of it.  Baffling, terrible choices.  Not only are we not advancing in most areas we are going backwards to less diverse systems, limiting user choices, and causing additional grind.  

Also here for the annual bandit rug pull!
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How about we try it out before crapping on it.

 
Will the curbside newspaper stands have the critical documents we need to advance?

I'm actually hoping they don't and just have paper (maybe also a toilet pistol because I do like them!)

I'll be tempted just to do that for 2-3 days and then destroy them, so I don't look in them again.

I'll probably let my role-play self, win most of the time and not do that, but it will be tempting...

 
Aldranon said:
Will the curbside newspaper stands have the critical documents we need to advance?

I'm actually hoping they don't and just have paper (maybe also a toilet pistol because I do like them!)

I'll be tempted just to do that for 2-3 days and then destroy them, so I don't look in them again.

I'll probably let my role-play self, win most of the time and not do that, but it will be tempting...
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I know it's just a small detail... but I'd rather have them add a new type of item named "ruined book/magazine" that you can scrap to paper. Lots of people complain about finding tons of paper in the bookshelves of a Crack a Book store, and don't understand the paper represents ruined books and magazines.

That would add a bit of "realism" IMO and ease players into understanding why so much scrap.

 
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Jost Amman said:
I know it's just a small detail... but I'd rather have them add a new type of item named "ruined book/magazine" that you can scrap to paper. Lots of people complain about finding tons of paper in the bookshelves of a Crack a Book store, and don't understand the paper represents ruined books and magazines.

That would add a bit of "realism" IMO and ease players into understanding why so much scrap.
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We had generic books many alphas ago, that scrapped for like 20 paper. They’ve steadily removed intermediate items like that from the game, so I can't see them reversing direction now. The fishing weights might be the last thing we have that isn't directly usable, a raw material, or multipurpose.

Part of me misses the authenticity of finding, say, a trophy on a football player zombie. On the other hand, one could see it as a quality of life improvement, to remove unnecessary crafting steps. Really, it's the same argument for or against sharpened sticks that people have been having for a long time.

 
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Crater Creator said:
Part of me misses the authenticity of finding, say, a trophy on a football player zombie.
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I miss them too. If we lose the fishing weights, I guess that whole "carry them or scrap them for fewer resources but easier carry" decision is gone then.

 
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Roland said:
Three big attempts but.....three big misses. Sorry Poptard, your guesses are completely off tonight. 

I do agree and I think most would agree that having more perks in each attribute would be a welcome additon. I've got nothing against that suggestion. Here's to hoping the devs will agree when I or more likely Crater Creator (who is our new Super Moderator) relays your feedback to the dev team. Or maybe @faatal who frequents the forums quite regularly will see your analysis and consider it along with the team.

I can't believe you forgot about poor @faatal 
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Yes, I am reading this stuff.

I actually generated an 8K RWG (in 1:45!) yesterday and played a few hours. Feels pretty good to me. After 2 days, I'm close to making my first dew collector, but need a bit more coin to buy the filter. My biggest complaint was that combat hits feel bland, probably by comparison to some of the games I played over the holidays.

meganoth said:
I think Joel is not involved much in 7D2D anymore because he was working as designer for the game and the design part is practically finished. They have made a list of necessary features the game still needs and programmers and graphics designers are mostly working on those. If testing and feedback shows there are adjustments to be done they will surely do that, but most of the game is largely fixed by now. 

I.e. we can assume that perks that don't work will get changed (Sexrex is a good example here), but they will surely not add a dozen or more perks because those don't grow on trees. They would need major development that is just not in the cards for a small team that still needs to add bandits and a story. And as can be seen the team has its hand full with that alone.
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Joel is actually what is motivating the vehicle damage changes. He just had me tweak more values on Friday.

 
Games'n'Grumble said:
Hi @faatal! How were your holidays? Tell us about what you are working on now? Maybe you could show some new screenshot?
And I have a big request for you - could you please add to StatCompareMax parameters that are applied to vehicles through passive effects (LightIntensity, VehicleVelocityMaxPer and others)?  :)
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Holidays were good. I did a lot of game playing of around half a dozen games.

I mostly worked on bugs and tweaks this week. Not the type of stuff that makes for interesting pictures.

Sorry, I have no time for feature requests in the near future.

 
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