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Darkness Falls: They mostly come out at night...
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SnowBee
Refugee
SilverveinsGaming said:
The laser workbench being sold from Jen has been removed in v4.1, Version 4.1 is the most recent stable version. Since v4.1, you now obtain the laser workbench from Anna. She has it in one of her locked rooms. You will need to pick up a green key card for this first. It is part of the update so the DF Team can make the last part of the story into an awesome feature. I believe they are working on this in v4.1.1, however, I am unsure if it will be released by the time v4.1.1 goes stable.
SnowBee
Refugee
Craft the animal feed, add it to your hotbar or toolbar, then select it and right click on the snare or coop. There will be a low audio sound to acknowledge it.
SnowBee
Refugee
It is only a requirement for underground farming. You cannot use rain catchers underground.
For surface farming, using tilling or farm plots with rain catchers work pretty well, and there is no difference in speed between irrigation and rain catcher supplied crops.
After saying that, I would still take irrigation over hoeing & rain catchers 100% of the time, once I can afford it. I find it more aesthetically pleasing to the eye, so when I really want to create large farms, I prefer the looks of irrigation over rain catchers. Especially as I can bury the pipes. There is the potential for adding more crops when using irrigation and burying a pipe, however, these days players have interesting ways for layouts and can get quite a few crops into rain catcher land space.
In the past I found rain catchers a bit more buggy, where irrigation just worked fine as long as the water hole pump had some water, and the pump was submerged. So the water being sucked up from the pump never goes down (just don't add other growing plants within four blocks of the pump hole). You can have a huge farm, and the small reservoir of water where the pump is will always provide full pipes and consistently give water to your crops.
You can do what ??? How does that work ? What I think I just read was dig down two layers and lay the pipes then put dirt blocks / farm plots on top of the pipe and 1 block to each side ?? So every third row in the farm has a pipe running under it ?
My rain catchers dried up after the rain stopped (they didn't last time I did a DF playthrough, that was quite a surprise) so I think I will have a look at irrigation !
Thanks !
SnowBee
Refugee
I can't recall, but I think fruit trees was increased in v4.1, which version are you playing?
Add a scarecrow to help keep your farming and rain catchers "alive". The scarecrow will help keep the chunk ticking over when you are away exploring. You can use it for irrigation as well.
You can run the irrigation pipe under the plots and they will still get the same three blocks of coverage.
As depicted below, if the pipe is the "0" below, then the "X" crops will get water above the pipe.
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The above works the same as when the pipe is at the same level as the crops:
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I hope that makes sense
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The only difference to raincatcher are, the raincatcher need to produce the water first.
Everytime a plant want to grow up it need water at range and the plant consume the water.
While a pipe got unlimited water, you need to have a trench for the raincatcher so it can fill up that trench with water.
When you want that all plants grow up at the same speed, you should have plenty of water for them and not 1 1x1 above the raincatcher for 5x5 farmplots.
Check out the ricefarming video from snowbee at YT.
Sometimes Zombies damage/bug the raincatcher and they don't produce water anymore. Try to repair and pickup them, and place them at the same spot, should fix the problem.
While raincatcher and plants only work when someone is at the chunk, you should use the scarecrow that keep the chunk active and let both work.
Everytime a plant want to grow up it need water at range and the plant consume the water.
While a pipe got unlimited water, you need to have a trench for the raincatcher so it can fill up that trench with water.
When you want that all plants grow up at the same speed, you should have plenty of water for them and not 1 1x1 above the raincatcher for 5x5 farmplots.
Check out the ricefarming video from snowbee at YT.
Sometimes Zombies damage/bug the raincatcher and they don't produce water anymore. Try to repair and pickup them, and place them at the same spot, should fix the problem.
While raincatcher and plants only work when someone is at the chunk, you should use the scarecrow that keep the chunk active and let both work.
wanderinpaladin
Refugee
If only someone would make videos covering this.I can't recall, but I think fruit trees was increased in v4.1, which version are you playing?
Add a scarecrow to help keep your farming and rain catchers "alive". The scarecrow will help keep the chunk ticking over when you are away exploring. You can use it for irrigation as well.
You can run the irrigation pipe under the plots and they will still get the same three blocks of coverage.
As depicted below, if the pipe is the "0" below, then the "X" crops will get water above the pipe.
XXXXXXX
0
The above works the same as when the pipe is at the same level as the crops:
XXX0XXX
I hope that makes sense
Oh wait!
Snowbee is awesome thanks to his tips I used the roof of higashi as a base. It took a lot of stabilizing (the building) but I got an irrigation setup going on the floor below the penthouse so I could use the garden path on the roof as a farm.
PoloPoPo
Refugee
What I don't understand at this point regarding the whole complicatedness of setting up a farm... why don't the descriptions of farming lights, scarecrows and irrigation systems just tell the players how they work? I can't find the information anywhere in the game that farming lights work in a 4 blocks radius. Same for the other items. That is clearly missing there and making things more complicated than necessary.
Interestingly, I am just setting up my farm in my current savegame and I have always thought irrigation pipes need to be next (1 block) to the crops. Never knew about 3 blocks radius (thanks Snowbee). I want to set up some scarecrows as I believe I know what they do but again I have no idea about what their working radius is and how many I need for my huge farm. It would be so easy to add those information to the item descriptions. Now I have to search for a YT video to find the information about scarecrows. Is that the way to go?
Interestingly, I am just setting up my farm in my current savegame and I have always thought irrigation pipes need to be next (1 block) to the crops. Never knew about 3 blocks radius (thanks Snowbee). I want to set up some scarecrows as I believe I know what they do but again I have no idea about what their working radius is and how many I need for my huge farm. It would be so easy to add those information to the item descriptions. Now I have to search for a YT video to find the information about scarecrows. Is that the way to go?
Better search the DF discord channel for more information.
But yes you are right many useful informations could add to description or journal entries (maybe there are allready some info at these entries i didn't checked yet).
KhaineGB
Hunter
The underground crops grow faster.
You mean like the farming entry in the journal? Which does explain everything except the grow lights?
Like that?
And the scarecrow tells you exactly how it works. It tells you it keeps the chunk alive. A cursory google search could've told you how big a 7DTD chunk is.
https://7daystodie.fandom.com/wiki/Heatmap
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PoloPoPo
Refugee
I have finally found a female and a male boar recently. So I have built a huge box of concrete with 6 block high walls for them to live, no roof. Went out for 1,5 days doing a level 5 quest. When I came back to my base there were boars everywhere. I saw them from far away on the road, in front of my doors, on my rooftop, at neighbours' gardens, literally everywhere. Plus about 40 more boars inside their concrete box.
They must have stacked more than those six blocks and escaped, right? Anyway, I killed all but a single female and a single male and got 7,5k meat. I think their reproduction rate should get reconsidered, though
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And another question:
I have built two rows of beehives on top of each other. Only the top beehives can be looted after a while, never the beehives on bottom. Does that work as intended and what am I missing?
They must have stacked more than those six blocks and escaped, right? Anyway, I killed all but a single female and a single male and got 7,5k meat. I think their reproduction rate should get reconsidered, though
Edit:
And another question:
I have built two rows of beehives on top of each other. Only the top beehives can be looted after a while, never the beehives on bottom. Does that work as intended and what am I missing?
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SnowBee
Refugee
I have finally found a female and a male boar recently. So I have built a huge box of concrete with 6 block high walls for them to live, no roof. Went out for 1,5 days doing a level 5 quest. When I came back to my base there were boars everywhere. I saw them from far away on the road, in front of my doors, on my rooftop, at neighbours' gardens, literally everywhere. Plus about 40 more boars inside their concrete box.
They must have stacked more than those six blocks and escaped, right? Anyway, I killed all but a single female and a single male and got 7,5k meat. I think their reproduction rate should get reconsidered, though
Edit:
And another question:
I have built two rows of beehives on top of each other. Only the top beehives can be looted after a while, never the beehives on bottom. Does that work as intended and what am I missing?
Yeah, the timer on babies has been decreased in v4.1.1, there is an experimental of it, but stable v4.1.1 will release with the decrease. I think it is changed from 10 minutes to 60 minutes. Meat Factory!
YT Video on Animal HusbandryBeehives should not be placed on top of one another. They will not produce from both, unfortunately.
I have had them work fine adjacent to one another, but it is usually recommended to keep them separate.
*cough* grow lights, and irrigation, and scarecrows ...
I did read the journal. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I didn't stumble across anything about irrigation and how to do it and why I might want to, and why I might want to throw down a scarecrow ... SnowBee's video showed me why I should irrigate and how to do it, and this forum told me about scarecrows. Sure the scarecrow tells you what it does but you only see that if you already know you want one and are looking at it.
One of the things I really liked about DF when I started playing it was how I didn't know what I could and couldn't do, and how so much didn't work the way I was used to, and that there was so much I had to either stumble across or hear about from other people, just like it would be in a real zombie apocalypse - and this is a great example. I knew I could grow crops and I knew they needed water but that was about it - beyond the basics it's something that has to be discovered.
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