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Doomofman
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Trankitas
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Laz Man
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mstdv inc
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It turns out at this stage, provided the CPU is the same, the game will prefer an increased frequency per core than a larger number of threads.
6/6 4GHz will be better than 6/12 3GHz if I understand everything correctly.All this is not taking into account the bandwidth of RAM and video card.These two can also limit the performance of the game.
Jost Amman
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There are also limits from Unity. Apparently some type of stuff is automatically handled by Unity on "the main core/thread" (whatever that is) and faatal can't split it onto other cores, because he doesn't have control on some stuff. (Note: I'm not a programmer, so I may have used wrong words/terminology).
Yeah I'm not a programmer either, I just made a bad assumption that the game engine would be opportunistic and use as many cores as were available.
Jost Amman
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Well, a good engine should be! I hope the Unity devs can improve this part in the future.
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executor2
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Its not Unity , i fired up both 7d and Rust. Both are build in unity.
7days uses 4 cores , and the rest are down to 6%, while Rust uses 50% on all my 12 cores.
Its just the devs not investing time in proper threat handling
Food isn't that trivial when you play in co-op as more players compete for the limited resources in a small area (like animals, nests and trader/vending machines), only quest kitchens and buried supplies quests are resources halfway growing with number of players.
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Yeh I guess people have different experiences so balancing around everyone is tough! I always find, whether solo or in a group, I find enough looting, food from traders / vending machines / birds nests or wild animals to only ever really struggle for the first day or two. Usually swimming in cans and boiled meat after that! But yeh I appreciate it's not the same for everyone.
Edit: I'll also add, just to throw an extra point on the fire to be annoying, even though late game food offers some buffs there's only a few options worth taking and a lot of food ends up being redundant. Having a mechanic where food variety was important would help use more of the game's assets for longer. Just my $0.02.
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That is interesting. I wonder if The Fun Pimps would like to comment on that.
P.S. I believe he meant 'thread' not 'threat'.
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Mister Forgash
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I also, would really love to see something like this implemented as long as it wasn't -that- punishing. An incentive to have a varied diet as opposed to living off boiled meat for the first XXX timeframe. That said, I'm thinking Dev time, at least for now, is much better off being invested elsewhere.. and maybe food will be re-balanced through loot scarcity to be in a slightly more challenging spot [Though that does nothing to incentivize a complex/balanced diet].. but Maaaaan do I hope it gets another pass before gold.
.. Worst case, I know we have passionate, brilliant, hardworking mod writers out there that can make it a more in-depth experience -maybe there's a few that already have, I haven't started experimenting yet. It easy to stand here on the sidelines and want 'More - More - More!' but I know every time we ask for more, we're getting less somewhere else... gotta pick your battles.
I think the community has been very involved with the development of the game, and therefore it is their passion that has pushed the devs to be involved in the forums themselves, and listen to the thoughts of the player base that has been with them throughout the build of the game that we all love.
This interaction has yielded a better game in the long run.
This interaction has yielded a better game in the long run.
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Jost Amman
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Well, I may have misunderstood what @faatal said on that topic then.
It's surely possible I didn't get the tech stuff right, maybe he just said that currently 7D2D can only use a few cores and that switching to more would take too much time? :noidea:
Mister Forgash
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I totally get wanting to have the game run the best as it can on your big rig- but as part of the potato crew, I sure hope they work on optimizations that everyone can benefit from first, rather than making making us poor folks/cheapskates feel pushed toward getting a new CPU..
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Roland
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He said DX12 compatibility was up to Unity. He never said that using more threads was up to Unity. He did say that it wasn't his first priority on how to spend his time because he would rather work on solutions that will improve performance for everyone rather than invest the type of time necessary to switch the game to using more threads. It's not even a decision he would make by himself. It would be up to the owners to allocate resources and time to doing that.
You said this while quoting him where he literally said that his focus is on improvements to help all rather than improvements to help the few of "us guys". He never said it couldn't be done. He was telling you he won't do it unless that is what he is directed to do by the owners.
Also, his name is Shawn. Not Shirley....
Don't worry. That is exactly what @faatal was saying he is doing. There is just a bit of selective listening happening by those who don't like the way those words were put together...lol