Low Fps on high end pc

[camsterdude]

That "otherwise" doesn't make any sense. SAME CPU, different GPU => SAME FPS is the clearest case of a bottleneck you could get.

To prove that you still have an issue you need to show that someone else with a similar CPU has much better FPS than you at the same settings(!).

i agree with you, as the person that made this post in the first place i have already stated that the problem was fixed ages ago with just turning off 2 in alpha settings. I also upgraded to a 5950x and yes i do get a @%$# ton more fps than before so it was a per core bottleneck which i did infact already knew but those 2 settings actually made it a whole lot worse. i could after turning them off play all other settings maxed at well over 150 fps.

 

[Naz]

i agree with you, as the person that made this post in the first place i have already stated that the problem was fixed ages ago with just turning off 2 in alpha settings. I also upgraded to a 5950x and yes i do get a @%$# ton more fps than before so it was a per core bottleneck which i did infact already knew but those 2 settings actually made it a whole lot worse. i could after turning them off play all other settings maxed at well over 150 fps.

Are you talking about the ssao and reflection options? Or console command options like poi's?

 

[Funyon55]

Anyone willing to share your full cmd line for your affinity shortcut for reference? I followed the guide but my shortcut isn't working, I must have mistyped something.

 

[Pernicious]

The below should instruct it to use cores 5, 7, 9, 11. Won't work on anything with less than 6 real cores.

C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c start "7D2D" /affinity AA "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\7 Days To Die\7DaysToDie_EAC.exe"




(Edit, actually off by one, because Core 0, still needs a flag to be set, so it actually sets it on core 4, 6, 8, 10 - I.e. the physical cores, not the logical ones).

 

[RichyYoung]

119 FPS on pregen 10k on ultra settings.  my monitors 120hz so i assume im near cap.

5950x

64gb ram

3080 

1tb gen 4 nvme

a20 has been a big step up for me in visuals with the hd textures and new towns.  

 

[Surreall]

The below should instruct it to use cores 5, 7, 9, 11. Won't work on anything with less than 6 real cores.

C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c start "7D2D" /affinity AA "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\7 Days To Die\7DaysToDie_EAC.exe"




(Edit, actually off by one, because Core 0, still needs a flag to be set, so it actually sets it on core 4, 6, 8, 10 - I.e. the physical cores, not the logical ones).

Having trouble getting this to work... keeps saying steam isn't available when I launch the link.  Initially it starts to load fine, but then instead of the 7dtd menu coming up to join/create a game, the steam error shows.

What am I doing wrong?

 

[meganoth]

There should be a script in the game directory that is usually started and does some preliminary work (at least I assume it is, as I have something similar on my operating system). Instead of starting the exe maybe start that script.

 

[Pernicious]

Having trouble getting this to work... keeps saying steam isn't available when I launch the link.  Initially it starts to load fine, but then instead of the 7dtd menu coming up to join/create a game, the steam error shows.

What am I doing wrong?

Steam also has to be running. It uses Steam APIs locally to get your steam ID so you can  log into any game and track your character profiles  - including local ones. 

 

[Surreall]

Steam also has to be running. It uses Steam APIs locally to get your steam ID so you can  log into any game and track your character profiles  - including local ones. 

Yeah it's running but it just can't see it apparently.  Probably because I'm trying to launch it directly from a shortcut to the game exe with the config listed above.  IDK what else to do though, can't find a script that looks like it has anything to do with launching the game... found one for a dedicated server, but I'm not running a server on this PC.

 

[BFT2020]

Yeah it's running but it just can't see it apparently.  Probably because I'm trying to launch it directly from a shortcut to the game exe with the config listed above.  IDK what else to do though, can't find a script that looks like it has anything to do with launching the game... found one for a dedicated server, but I'm not running a server on this PC.

Not sure if you tried these steps yet:

1) Open up Steam and click on the link at the upper right (labeled Steam).  Select Check for Steam Client upgrades and see if it needs to download an update

2) Shutdown steam and relaunch it.  And by shutdown, I mean shut the program down.  Don't minimize it, select Exit.  Open up Program Manager and make sure all instances of Steam have closed.

 

[Surreall]

Not sure if you tried these steps yet:

1) Open up Steam and click on the link at the upper right (labeled Steam).  Select Check for Steam Client upgrades and see if it needs to download an update

2) Shutdown steam and relaunch it.  And by shutdown, I mean shut the program down.  Don't minimize it, select Exit.  Open up Program Manager and make sure all instances of Steam have closed.

Yep it's updated

 

[stueck0514]

The best I can tell you is the game itself sucks for GPU usage. I have a 2080ti and I seem to hover between 40-65% usage. If you go into the 7 days to die folder, then into 7daystodie_data folder, there is a file called boot (a config file). If you open it up in wordpad, put these two lines at the top:

gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1

In total you will have:

gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
wait-for-native-de@%$#=0
hdr-display-enabled=0
gc-max-time-slice=3

The good news is this runs my graphics card fully like any other game, the bad news is when I first boot into the server it is only the background image that shows up, but if I leave and go back in, everything is perfect.  I went from slugging away at 30-60 fps to the full 120 I need without changing any game graphics settings. Hope this helps, and you can always delete the code if you don't like it.

 

[Robeloto]

The best I can tell you is the game itself sucks for GPU usage. I have a 2080ti and I seem to hover between 40-65% usage. If you go into the 7 days to die folder, then into 7daystodie_data folder, there is a file called boot (a config file). If you open it up in wordpad, put these two lines at the top:

gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1

In total you will have:

gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
wait-for-native-de@%$#=0
hdr-display-enabled=0
gc-max-time-slice=3

The good news is this runs my graphics card fully like any other game, the bad news is when I first boot into the server it is only the background image that shows up, but if I leave and go back in, everything is perfect.  I went from slugging away at 30-60 fps to the full 120 I need without changing any game graphics settings. Hope this helps, and you can always delete the code if you don't like it.

■■■■, when I check my gpu usage it is at 90% sometimes. Same GPU. Gets laggy everytime zombies are spawning. Never had this trouble in A19. Maybe my GPU is dying lol.

 

[Naz]

Having trouble getting this to work... keeps saying steam isn't available when I launch the link.  Initially it starts to load fine, but then instead of the 7dtd menu coming up to join/create a game, the steam error shows.

What am I doing wrong?

You need to make sure steam is running before launching the game with the shortcut. I'd also change the start parameter from "7DTD" to "7DaysToDie" after that you can add /high if you want to give the process high priority, i haven't noticed any meaningful change in doing so but doesn't hurt so why not xd. Also make sure in the shortcuts properties you fill in the "starts in" field with your install path. for mines it's "V:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\7 Days To Die" Also make sure that field and the target field actually point to where your install is, if it isn't installed on your c or v drive at that location it won't work.

The best I can tell you is the game itself sucks for GPU usage. I have a 2080ti and I seem to hover between 40-65% usage. If you go into the 7 days to die folder, then into 7daystodie_data folder, there is a file called boot (a config file). If you open it up in wordpad, put these two lines at the top:

gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1

In total you will have:

gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
wait-for-native-de@%$#=0
hdr-display-enabled=0
gc-max-time-slice=3

The good news is this runs my graphics card fully like any other game, the bad news is when I first boot into the server it is only the background image that shows up, but if I leave and go back in, everything is perfect.  I went from slugging away at 30-60 fps to the full 120 I need without changing any game graphics settings. Hope this helps, and you can always delete the code if you don't like it.

This is a great tip, however keep in mind it isn't eac compatible. If you play on a eac protected server you can't use this. Additionally it will revert to stock after an update. Fatal mentioned enabled gpu jobs will be in a20.1 i believe in the dev diary. So hopefully everyone can enjoy it's benefits in the future.

 

[Naz]

Another couple tips for the affinity trick. If you have a modern cpu released in the last 3-5 years your cpu may have what's called "best cores" these cores give you your single threaded max boost clocks. They run at higher clocks speeds than the others so it's worth targeting those cores to lock the game too. If you have a ryzen cpu you can use ryzen master to see exactly which cores those are (won't always be the same cores for every cpu) also with ryzen don't split your affinity across multiple ccd's and ccx's if possible.

CCD's are the physical "chiplets" on your cpu if your process is split between them it has a latency penalty having to communicate back and forth with a completely different chip. So try to find the block diagram for your exact model to find out how it's arranged (the 5800x for example only has 1 CCD) CCX's are the groups of cores within a CCD, the performance penilty is minimal here but it's you have a ccx with 4 cores use them. Some cpu's this might not be possible so just do what you can do and it should be fine.

For intel the intel extreme tuning utility exposes those cores i believe.

If you want to take things even further. You can assign any programs you have open normally to cores not assigned to 7dtd. This can be done exactly the same way using shortcuts. You can even copy the shortcuts to:

C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

and they will open on start up automatically with the assigned affinity.

 

[Grimdian]

I've been having issues with A20 as well (playing on 1440p). 7dtd never ran particularly well, but frame rates were more stable in previous releases (at least for me). The FPS drops from ~120 to 70 and sometimes even goes down to 30. I've noticed that the FPS drops are related to bigger zombie groups (horde night being the worst offender). I can usually tell when the game spawns in a walking horde during the day because the lag starts. Maybe something got changed for the worse with zombie pathing?

edit: There's also ridiculous lag while opening the inventory sometimes which I believe is linked to the game saving stuff. At least the console messages indicated it.

edit2: I can provide logs but I can't seem to upload them here (yet?)

I doubt it's my system, but here it is for context:

Core i7-8700K  @4.2

RTX 2080Ti

32GB RAM

Win10

everything on SSDs...

 

[Guest]

Me, in 4K with 3090 and r9 5900x 64G 3200 ddr4, I am getting 70+ fps with a dip to below 60 fps now and again. I have turned down some settings from ultra to high, turned AO or as low as it can go.

On SSD

 

[Naz]

Good options that add little visually but suck fps are

Sreen space reflections (I completely disable them) 

Object quality (I'd go go higher than high) 

Reflection quality (low to ultra+ makes little difference to my eye so I leave it at low) 

Reflective shadows (disabled) 

Shadows (low to medium) 

 

[The_Great_Sephiroth]

I don't buy into the "force the game to use X cores" stuff. Playted it previously on an i7-6950X with a 2080 Ti and if I played at 144Hz, I stayed between 120 and 144fps with max settings in 1440p. Never had to tweak a thing. This core-stuff must be for AMD users or something, because when I tried it with my old rig, removing one core at a time until I lost FPS, it did nothing to help.

I am on an i9-11900k with a 3080 Ti now and just tried A20 for the first time. Still in 1440p, and I had no issues. Everything is stock here, no overclocking or anything. That means I peg the CPU at 5.3GHz, but it idles around 800MHz when not gaming. RAM is 64GB DDR4-3200. Storage is a 2TB PCIE4.0 NVME (2280) in a PCIE4 M.2 slot with heatsink. The game currently has access to all cores and threads.

 

[SylenThunder]

I don't buy into the "force the game to use X cores" stuff.

As you surmised, It's been shown to greatly improve performance on AMD chipsets prior to the 3rd gen Ryzen. This is largely due to them having pretty pathetic multithreading support.  Intel hasn't had an issue like that for a couple of decades.