PC Correct me if I'm wrong, you can't make a solar panel or the components?

Pernicious said:
Endothermic by definition means heat is destroyed- the opposite of generated. But as I said, I was just being a smartarse, picking on your semantics. I think everyone is aware that the use of energy usually generates waste heat. 
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You can't "destroy" heat, only convert it (usually by absorption)... in this case, back to energy.

For instance, if you have something hot and you place ice around it to cool it down, you didn't destroy anything, only repelled the heat upwards as heat usually rises. So the potential heat energy is still there, just now it's spread out to the air around it and now the item is cold.

 
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Fox said:
place ice around it to cool it down, you didn't destroy anything, only repelled the heat upwards as heat usually rises.
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I'm in no way disagreeing with entropy and the inevitable heat death of the universe, but "ice repelling heat upwards" is a theory pretty suitable for zombie fan fiction... It's not a magnet! :)

 
TFP better f***ing model at least the first three laws of thermodynamics accurately or I want a refund!

Fox said:
For instance, if you have something hot and you place ice around it to cool it down, you didn't destroy anything, only repelled the heat upwards as heat usually rises. So the potential heat energy is still there, just now it's spread out to the air around it and now the item is cold.
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Second Law of Thermodynamics at play here. Two systems [hot thing] and [container of ice], each roughly at equilibrium. You put them together and they start doing the thermodynamics nasty. The old heat bump-and-grind if you know what I mean. Trading all that juicy heat. [Hot thing] pumps a load of heat into the ice, causing the ice to start getting wet. If the entire thing is open to the atmosphere (an open cooler, say) and presuming it's not below freezing then the ice also starts to get it on with the atmosphere, getting a DP of heat injection from the air and the [hot thing] at the same time. Very NSFW when diagrammed out. Where it starts to veer into real darkweb stuff is if [hot thing] is hotter than [atmosphere] also. Then it becomes like a heat bukkake.

 
Boidster said:
TFP better f***ing model at least the first three laws of thermodynamics accurately or I want a refund!

Second Law of Thermodynamics at play here. Two systems [hot thing] and [container of ice], each roughly at equilibrium. You put them together and they start doing the thermodynamics nasty. The old heat bump-and-grind if you know what I mean. Trading all that juicy heat. [Hot thing] pumps a load of heat into the ice, causing the ice to start getting wet. If the entire thing is open to the atmosphere (an open cooler, say) and presuming it's not below freezing then the ice also starts to get it on with the atmosphere, getting a DP of heat injection from the air and the [hot thing] at the same time. Very NSFW when diagrammed out. Where it starts to veer into real darkweb stuff is if [hot thing] is hotter than [atmosphere] also. Then it becomes like a heat bukkake.
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As an engineer, I couldn't stop laughing after reading this.

 
and here I was thinking if a shotgun attracted zeds so would a generator running for an hour. Seems pretty counter intuitive. Building adds a decent amount. Everytime I place 20-30 blocks and upgrade them a screamer shows up. Youd think if a hammer swing can do that a generator would...

Unless its the new honda ones. those things are

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