PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary

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Roland said:
Does a Kuosimodo dislike really carry any weight with anyone?
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I feel his eyes, forever watchful, judging every word, every sentence I type. I can sense his cursor clicking on the reaction button in my comment, slowly creeping towards the thumbs down icon. One thumbs down, worth more than a thousand rants. I can feel him savoring the moment, tasting my fear from the distance. The Boogeyman from the forums.

He scares me, Roland. He scares me.

 
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Roland said:
lol..

wrong and stupid — Farming debate

slimy politician — Blocks debate

Well,  I WAS wrong about being able to achieve a large scale farm with LOTL 1 given that you wait to start with roughly 10 seeds. 
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Small correction. Nobody needs to wait for 10 seeds to pile up before starting. Immediately plant away and save all produce for seed production until you are at least at 10 seeds and you have a large time advantage and exactly the same chances as long as you eventually find 10 seeds.

 
Anyone else notice that engines are disappearing everytime there is a new update....ive had about 25 motors go POOF out of generators??

Also you switch over to 3rd person when wearing night vision and driving the motorcycle.

 
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@madmole@faatalTo anyone that will hear me out. Frankly, me and my friends do agree that many of the gun's iron sights are just bad.

The iron sight's front posts are too tall, and/or not centered, and/or the rear sights are missing or unused when aiming down sights. Though I can understand if there are no rear sights on pipe weapons, as they are primitive weapons, but modern firearms should use and/or have rear sights. That, or at least there should be some consistency... For example either we should be using rear sights on all the guns or not using them on any guns.

No matter the case, front sights should always be in line with the center of the screen. But they aren't, in the case of weapons like the pipe pistol. Please, at least revert the M9 Beretta Pistol to what is was in Alpha 19. I used to love that gun.

Another critique I have is the way pistols displayed. The pistol's appear to close to the camera. It looks like we are holding the pistols up in our face. Please do try and hold a pistol and make it look the way it does in-game. You will understand what I'm talking about. But I think, that's a topic for another day.

With all the other visual improvements, I do think the game could stand to benefit from a little more attention to weapon sights. But it's you game do what you want with it, I get that. Though I do think some weapons iron sights in Alpha 20 are a regression.

 
Roland said:
Those who abuse the system lose credibility with it. Does a Kuosimodo dislike really carry any weight with anyone? joshwa0816 is headed the same way. 
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Yep because it sometimes at least me @%$# me off.  will it was specific period- almost everything go wrong in my life and i wrote 20- 30 lines post. Only reaction was dislike from kuosimodo and any quotes. So yep it was just frustrating as hell. I understand if i have controversial opinion people will hate this but... 1 dislike and nothing more it was just ugh. Well so i understand that. People are sometimes tired because they want to make discusion on some  topic : zombie teens, number of trees, bugged block in some POI etc.and get only dislike make them to feel this long post was pointeless. ofc you can say " so you always can create new topic" but honestly - 90% of people on this forum read most of time only  this topic ( 2-3  month ago i saw more people was writing in more topic now they are focused here). So they can be furious about this. Roland well everyone can just have worst time that normal. Well i'm not spaming now post everyday because- A20 is almost done so we need to wait until we get A21 roadmap to give new proposition, thing about what can be added in the future or about new game

Jost Amman said:
Well, to be honest, I've received both positive and negative reactions from Kuosimodo... so, in my case, nothing to say to him.
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Yep he give more likes that in the past so it is good change in my opinion

 
Xtrakicking said:
Fair enough, though there's also a problem when someone is trying to legitimately give negative feedback on something and it just gets shrugged off as a "rant", while also twisting words to try and make someone sound irrational.
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It shouldn't be a problem for the objective of influencing TFP (except if a dev from TFP himself is calling it a rant). AFAIK Devs have no time to read longer discussions or lengthy arguments who is right, who is irrational and who says someone else is ranting. They'll read feedback that interests them and probably the shorter the better the chances to be read. 

This was the reason Roland moved all the discussions into the parallel discussion thread at the end of A19, so just the feedback and questions directed at Madmole/TPF was left and could be skimmed or read in acceptable time.

 
meganoth said:
Small correction. Nobody needs to wait for 10 seeds to pile up before starting. Immediately plant away and save all produce for seed production until you are at least at 10 seeds and you have a large time advantage and exactly the same chances as long as you eventually find 10 seeds.
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For whatever reason, I can only accumulate knowledge about farming incrementally from you. 
 

Thank you and sheesh!

 
this poi has caused me my only death and i needed clay so.... i gave it a makeover with my auger but the make over included destroying everything

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Callum123456789 said:
oh ummm i tried to improve it with my decorating tool but it didnt work im not sure why though
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i'm curious about this change:

  • Updated metal hit metal and metal destroy sounds
when i'm mining with my iron pickax, it doesn't sound metallic at all.  the new sound reminds me of breaking down bulletproof glass.  I switched to my stone ax and the sound was very much like what it was prior to the change. 

i'm trying to determine if i'm having a hardware issue or if this non metallic sound is what was intended.

 
HeLLKnight said:
@faatal please take a look how CPU and GPU are quite low all the time, maybe is there a code bottleneck? Also GPU usage seems inversely affected when lowering object quality. Maybe the less bottleneck is there, the more GPU can be used? Hope it helps.

Also please take a look to this mod which greatly reduces TAA flickering, maybe can help devs too: https://www.nexusmods.com/7daystodie/mods/1746
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CPU may show as low because task manager shows you all cores together, which will never get near 100% if you have many cores, since the game can't use them all and can not use them all equally. Many Unity task have to happen on the main thread. GPU will typically not be at 100% as the game is usually CPU bound.

I will not do what that mod does. I don't want to disable AA on the weapon cam as it looks worse. The weapon cam may be going away at some point anyway. The increased blending they use also makes ugly motion blur, which the artists and I don't like.

RBN said:
Well, before the pole drama hit me hard today i enter the forum with the intention of asking @faatall about the performance in A20.

In A19 i saw a great improvement in performance, always between 40-50 fps but in this alpha I'm between 30-40 again and when I am in any of the new "city cluster" the fps drops bellow 30, hitting sometimes 10-15, making playing very difficult.

I drop down the textures to medium, reflections to off, disable the music (i read this could help) and turning off the new long distance feature but.....the situation in the cities persists.

I have an AMD A-10 7860k, a Radeon rx 580 8GB and 24GB RAM. I know is modest but i want to know if there is anything i can do to improves the fps at least to 30 to enjoy the new cities.
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In every case I've looked at, lowering settings will increase FPS regardless of what your peak FPS is. Be it 60 to 120 or 10 going up to 20. It sounds like your CPU is running very slow. Have you rebooted? What other programs are you running? Disk getting hammered by some OS update, backup running or a virus?

 
faatal said:
In every case I've looked at, lowering settings will increase FPS regardless of what your peak FPS is. Be it 60 to 120 or 10 going up to 20. It sounds like your CPU is running very slow. Have you rebooted? What other programs are you running? Disk getting hammered by some OS update, backup running or a virus?
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No more programs running, updates or unusual activities.

The problem is only in the new clusters. Going only a few meters down the same street and getting out of the city zone all come back to normal.

In every other place the changes produces a variation in fps, not too much but newsworthy (shadows distance over all) but in the new cities there's no way to go above 30 when is calm and go down to 10-15 when there is some zombie action.

In the border of the city cluster is normal between 40-50

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A few meters ahead inside the cluster

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Same settings, only difference is the place.

 
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Is there a way to enable "profiling"  in 7 days to die so people can log where the slowdowns are occurring ? Would help a lot in regards to optimization over the different hardware perhaps. There is also a "severe" slowdown when opening inventory or talking in shop that happens randomly.

I've noticed a couple slowdowns less than 30fps in wasteland cities (5950x / 3090) where FPS is generally over 100, but just figured it was normal, would be nice to see where the issues lay as a programmer.

 
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RBN said:
No more programs running, updates or unusual activities.

The problem is only in the new clusters. Going only a few meters down the same street and getting out of the city zone all come back to normal.

In every other place the changes produces a variation in fps, not too much but newsworthy (shadows distance over all) but in the new cities there's no way to go above 30 when is calm and go down to 10-15 when there is some zombie action.

In the border of the city cluster is normal between 40-50

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A few meters ahead inside the cluster

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Same settings, only difference is the place.
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 Seconded, my friend and I notice our frames drop from normal 60-80 fps elsewhere to 15-30 in certain parts of the wasteland city we live in, especially bad with lots of zombie activity, changing graphics settings doesn't appear to make a difference. In recollection I do think the areas of city where it is especially bad are indeed where the new city block areas. The worst area so far has been around the dishong and higashi skyscrapers (they are across the street from each other). I know some folks have report issues with Dishong in particular, so I thought that might be the cause. Also we liked the game we were playing and did not wipe and restart after the first update patch, so I thought maybe some changes were causing frame drops in maps generated in the initial a20 version.

 
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