PC Farming not very viable even with living off the land 3.

Hey, new player here,

Lots of talk about "living on bacon and eggs".

How do you guys even do that ? I find like 1 egg every 4-5 nests. Bacon and eggs require a whopping 2 eggs lol. I even saw other, more advanced recipes required eggs. Crazy.

Is there a better way to get eggs ? Do nests "recharge" after a while ? (I tend to destroy them).

Anyway, the cake is a lie.

 
Nests will respawn their contents on whichever schedule is set for loot respawns in your world options. Best way to get them is to get a bicycle and just ride around in the wilderness. They're much easier to spot with a higher viewpoint.

Edit: No cake! Only pie!

 
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Urban Blackbear said:
Nests will respawn their contents on whichever schedule is set for loot respawns in your world options. Best way to get them is to get a bicycle and just ride around in the wilderness. They're much easier to spot with a higher viewpoint.

Edit: No cake! Only pie!
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Why would you have loot respawn on?  I don't even know anybody who would leave that on.  So eventually you are going to run out of eggs.  Would be nice if we could build a hen house out of a dead chicken (meat, bones and feathers?), some zombie flesh, wood and of course mutant corn.  Have it pump out eggs like our farm crops pump out veggies.  Maybe drop some feathers occasionally.

 
Orclover said:
Why would you have loot respawn on?  I don't even know anybody who would leave that on.  So eventually you are going to run out of eggs.  Would be nice if we could build a hen house out of a dead chicken (meat, bones and feathers?), some zombie flesh, wood and of course mutant corn.  Have it pump out eggs like our farm crops pump out veggies.  Maybe drop some feathers occasionally.
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Sounds kinda far-fetched to me aha, why not just a coop with a few *alive* chickens in it ? 

 
Orclover said:
Why would you have loot respawn on?  I don't even know anybody who would leave that on.  So eventually you are going to run out of eggs.  Would be nice if we could build a hen house out of a dead chicken (meat, bones and feathers?), some zombie flesh, wood and of course mutant corn.  Have it pump out eggs like our farm crops pump out veggies.  Maybe drop some feathers occasionally.
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It´s the default to have it on and as always with default settings, there is a lot of players doing it that way. You just wont see them bragging about it obviously. In fact i think playing no lootrespawn is the minority.

Also on servers it basically always with loot respawn. Would be impossible to join as a new player otherwise.

Taming animals is not an option for TFP. They said that several times in the past.

 
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pApA^LeGBa said:
It´s the default to have it on and as always with default settings, there is a lot of players doing it that way. You just wont see them bragging about it obviously. In fact i think playing no lootrespawn is the minority.

Also on servers it basically always with loot respawn. Would be impossible to join as a new player otherwise.

Taming animals is not an option for TFP. They said that several times in the past.
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Taming is a big word... I was more thinking about abducting a couple of poor chickens and forcing them to give me eggs in a 2x2 square 😁

 
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Orclover said:
Why would you have loot respawn on?  I don't even know anybody who would leave that on.  So eventually you are going to run out of eggs.  Would be nice if we could build a hen house out of a dead chicken (meat, bones and feathers?), some zombie flesh, wood and of course mutant corn.  Have it pump out eggs like our farm crops pump out veggies.  Maybe drop some feathers occasionally.
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The default setting is 7 Days. Plus, the joy of having options is that I can set it however I want without affecting you. Crazy, right?

 
Urban Blackbear said:
The default setting is 7 Days. Plus, the joy of having options is that I can set it however I want without affecting you. Crazy, right?
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It used to be 30, but yes I noticed this change. I suppose that's intended for newbies and/or larger and popular servers. Personally I prefer some level of attrition on loot respawn. 7 days is imho waaaay to low. The old was ok. But playing a private server you'd want loot to start to become rarer, forcing you to explore more of the map. Just to keep the game interesting.

However, I'd like if they made nest spawns (or any other natural respawns) have their own separate timer. It'd make sense to get new feathers and egg more often than POI's magically refilling.

 
If you like to gamble, this could be fun. I planted a pumpkin seed but only harvested for pumpkins. I have living off the land one. Then I looted a pumpkin. That gave me five and I also looted the pumpkin seed schematic.

So I said what the hell, let's make another seed, plant it, and I either get four pumpkins and a seed to grow some more or four pumpkins. I won't be able to make any more pumpkin pies than I can now. And yes I've lost one pumpkin for the chance of making four more and a seed. If I get the seed, that's at least eight pumpkins.

 
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IgnyteZero said:
It used to be 30, but yes I noticed this change. I suppose that's intended for newbies and/or larger and popular servers. Personally I prefer some level of attrition on loot respawn. 7 days is imho waaaay to low. The old was ok. But playing a private server you'd want loot to start to become rarer, forcing you to explore more of the map. Just to keep the game interesting.

However, I'd like if they made nest spawns (or any other natural respawns) have their own separate timer. It'd make sense to get new feathers and egg more often than POI's magically refilling.
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Urban Blackbear said:
Yeah, 7 days is a little low IMO.
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Zombie sleeper respawn is tied to this as well.

 
As much as I thought this was 'nerfed', I am now at Lotl 3, planted the crops to sustain 2 of us  (didn't plant anything until level 3), and have ample food returns after  my first harvest.  I started with 20 each of corn and potatoes, 10 of blueberry, mushroom, coffee, and yukka.   Didn't have enough seed to plant pumpkins and aloe yet.   Looking at what I harvested, I think I will drop back to 15 each of corn/potatos, and 5 each of everything else to sustain 2 of us and toss in 20 super corn.  

I didn't harvest any wild/poi crops until such time as I was at Lotl 3 (just marked em on my map).  Then went back and harvested to get my seed stock to start with.  I guess the only real 'nerf' is the fact that you have to replant the whole bed each harvest.   However I think this would be easier than have to replant 9/11 as you don't really need to worry about finding the holes to plant so really is pretty quick.

 
Misamor said:
Taming is a big word... I was more thinking about abducting a couple of poor chickens and forcing them to give me eggs in a 2x2 square 😁
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Yeah taming i think was specifically directed at a pet dog. Someone brought up the pet dog mechanic from another game and wanted it in but MM said no, too much work. 7dtd dogs have very basic animations as opposed to the myriad of animations the dog in the unmentioned title had.

I agree with the chicken coop. Use eggs to hatch chickens, use hatched chickens to lay eggs. Input corn/cornmeal/corn seeds or other food (chickens will eat pretty much anything) as fuel.
The station wouldnt create food from nothing, chickens need to be fed so building it on day1 would net very little, but once you have some excess corn you could start turning that corn into eggs to bake cakes and such.

Eggs being dictated by respawn time sucks, i play with slower respawn time since i dont want to loot the same building over and over, and traders can reset buildings if i ever get to the point i have looted the entire map (likely never) i would almost settle for letting nests respawn every 7 days while keeping everything else much slower, but i believe animal husbandry is a worthy goal for the game (NOT TAMING!)

 
I didn't read the whole thread, but one of the changes I like is farming.  It adds some stress to surviving early on, but it's far from impossible. Totally my opinion, but, I wish it was more difficult, or even had a setting to govern days until ripe, or chance for seed on harvest. How about insect or plant disease? That would be awesome! Then add cannibalism... Ya...  eat each other! But, I digress, Having a vibrant farm in a post-apocalyptic world should be an end game luxury, not something that is blown past because I dumped in fortitude and farming in the first 8 levels.  My two cents, but - nice change on the farming in A20 - but it could be more.

 
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Misamor said:
Hey, new player here,

Lots of talk about "living on bacon and eggs".

How do you guys even do that ? I find like 1 egg every 4-5 nests. Bacon and eggs require a whopping 2 eggs lol. I even saw other, more advanced recipes required eggs. Crazy.

Is there a better way to get eggs ? Do nests "recharge" after a while ? (I tend to destroy them).

Anyway, the cake is a lie.
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You have to look through a lot of nests, starting out you only need six eggs to survive for the day. Then you have to get the meat and you need 15 of that. It is something of a pain early on, you got to look for the nests until you get your six eggs. Then you find other things and you don't  subsist on bacon eggs.

I think farming is working with living off the land one. It's not like it was before but I'm making plenty of food from my very small farm. I think I'm looting more seeds. 

 
Roland said:
Not a waste of time because you got a bunch of crops from it that you can use for recipes. That's like saying the meat you get from killing an animal is a waste of time because you can't use most of it to birth another animal.
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Well, in that case, after killing an animal, you need to make a 50% chance that you will not collect meat from it, but only bones and fat)))
Please do not do this, I just gave the example of how it works for me now with farming... as I feel )

 
Survager said:
Well, in that case, after killing an animal, you need to make a 50% chance that you will not collect meat from it, but only bones and fat)))
Please do not do this, I just gave the example of how it works for me now with farming... as I feel )
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You fool! Never ask for features you don't want. Those are the only ones the devs add from community feedback!!

 
Instead, make it so that there is a 50% chance that trying to harvest meat from an animal corpse will instead raise it as an animal zombie that will promptly break your arm or leg and then die again, so to speak.

 
Wow. I guess I have been farming the wrong way. I've never had more than 18 plots going at a time. First getting enough rotting meat to make plots then having enough seeds is a problem in the beginning. I don't bother with cotton, goldenrod or chrysanthemum since i get "enough" of those in the wild.  Blueberries are only good if you have eggs and no meat. I horde canned food from vending machines until I can make the higher value foods but tend to start getting to many of the 100+ foods stockpiled and we don't ever get that hungry.  

I'm excited to try the changes. I heard that "wellness" was removed. Not even sure I understand what wellness was.

 
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