PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary
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4sheetzngeegles
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The Ketsup Analogy
My point of view comes from what i've learned about TFP, the forum, and the Game over the years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vssdys8lk
Over time TFP has built a semi proven marketing plan that seems to still work like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJ0h9FbDnU
But as the new generations and different varieties of personalities join this is the result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqtqGzXh4Uw
this is what they get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uuvQ8xDag4
To summize https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/9e/b9/739eb9c928b11bba13f69e36816aecf3.png
My point of view comes from what i've learned about TFP, the forum, and the Game over the years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_vssdys8lk
Over time TFP has built a semi proven marketing plan that seems to still work like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJ0h9FbDnU
But as the new generations and different varieties of personalities join this is the result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqtqGzXh4Uw
this is what they get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uuvQ8xDag4
To summize https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/9e/b9/739eb9c928b11bba13f69e36816aecf3.png
Aldranon
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"When playing a game of cat and mouse...Make sure you're the cat."
In other words stop crying like babies (unless you really are a baby, then WOW you're amazing!).
Your complaints might have worked with your mom, but people who have their own interests in focus will do what's best for them.
TFP want a good product out, because of the obvious if there is even one big error will be "Oh my god after a year it still has bugs! Oh my god!"
Nobody wants that, except the babies.
In other words stop crying like babies (unless you really are a baby, then WOW you're amazing!).
Your complaints might have worked with your mom, but people who have their own interests in focus will do what's best for them.
TFP want a good product out, because of the obvious if there is even one big error will be "Oh my god after a year it still has bugs! Oh my god!"
Nobody wants that, except the babies.
Capp00
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It's fully on us to make that decision, and if it blows up in our face, then it's on us.
We're told "this is a good likely chance, but nothing confirmed until Rick graces us with his presence and confirms it, do with that info as you wish"
So it's on me, if it's pushed back.
pApA^LeGBa
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@Capp00 Guys, you don´t need to explain this to me. I understand that. But a lot don´t, that´s the whole point. It will fall back on TFP and not on you. None of your fans will unsubscribe if it´s not releasing.
And it shouldn´t be on you to make the decision. TFP should have told you "No announcment until we know it´s happening" to avoid stupid people raging hard against TFP.
When has a hype that didn´t live up to it´s expectations ever been a good thing in game development? We have had lots of examples over the years. Avoiding a hype on release dates as much as you can shoud be 101 of development and marketing tbh.
Go trough a few topics regarding A20 and the development time on the steam forums and see for yourself. There is no logic with people like that. Don´t assume they think like you do. They don´t.
And it shouldn´t be on you to make the decision. TFP should have told you "No announcment until we know it´s happening" to avoid stupid people raging hard against TFP.
When has a hype that didn´t live up to it´s expectations ever been a good thing in game development? We have had lots of examples over the years. Avoiding a hype on release dates as much as you can shoud be 101 of development and marketing tbh.
Go trough a few topics regarding A20 and the development time on the steam forums and see for yourself. There is no logic with people like that. Don´t assume they think like you do. They don´t.
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Capp00
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People unsubscribe for not using a tool the way they think I should. Yes, that happens. So ya, if we're wrong and me making the announcement is early, I will lose followers.
PBRstreetgang
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If you watch the Dev Streams closely, every time a Dev mentions "the bug count is.." or "Maybe we'll all be playing A20 while eating Thanksgiving turkey.." Lathan cringes.
MechanicalLens
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...And shortly thereafter you'll gain plenty more subs to replace them.
A20 will breathe fresh life into the game, as we can all agree upon.jorbascrumps
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Jost Amman
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And what if you fall down under the 5K limit?? :scared:
You won't even be able to stream A20 Exp anymore!! :shocked:
Guppycur
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...as one of the streamers who's actually followed this game from well, a very f'ing long time, I think you'll be fine. You've got the 7day street cred for a flub, *if* you end up being wrong, which I don't think you will be.
Capp00
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NBornkilla
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Khalagar
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Very. There's probably less than like 50 people who regularly post in this thread, and even on the Subreddit, which is still a tiny fraction of the fanbase, they barely know what's going on with A20. Only the most dedicated fans actually go to forums and follow games
Steamcharts says there's 21,000 people playing 7 Days right now, I'd say a few hundred at most are of the expectation that a20 comes out this weekend. For A19 streamer weekend most of the streams I saw were 700-1500 viewers max, and a lot of those would be new people who just saw it on Twitch and tuned in.
It will take a while before the fanbase as a whole is aware A20 is out, so I'd say any backlash or controversy would just be a very vocal minority.
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MechanicalLens
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Everyone waiting for A20 be like:
pApA^LeGBa
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This forum is a niche yes. You can get more likes for a screenshot of a painted block in several facebook groups within an hour than you have people voting on importnant polls here.
NBornkilla
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