PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary

[Blue mame]

7dtd eats A LOT of RAM and VRAM on bigger maps. That's due to the fact that the level of quality far surpasses Minecraft, not only in texture detail, but also in mesh quality, physics calculations and of course in overall complexity (AI, framework,rendering, gameplay systems) . 

I wish they would make crazy map sizes for the future like 32768 x 32768 or even 65536 x 65536, because those are sizes that would take an 8 player party 100-200 hours to completely explore while having a nomad playstyle, which is more than enough for this game. More than that is just not worth it,

By the time 7dtd is finished (which might very well be in 2024) there will be technology available to support maps that need 40+ GB of VIDEO memory to function properly, like that hypothetical  65k one.

The DDR5 standard (recently released to the masses, so still expensive) and faster CPUs will help a ton too. I mean DDR5 general purpose RAM is already as fast as the GDDR4 standard for GPUs, so relying heavily on that will not be so bad.

This is not a technical issue. The 7d’s 20K before A16 is still very broad, depending on whether they are suitable for their current development strategy.

I have played 900 hours of solo, most of my friends play solo or co-op.
Despite the large number of servers active on them it is very weak, and only a few are of interest for the game.

I agree with the words that there are other projects to get a good PvP gaming experience. There is already too much MMO garbage in the world now and it makes no sense to turn our favorite game into another copy.

This is just to attach importance to the server side. If it comes to technical issues, look at my screenshot above, I think they will pay more attention to the single person aspect, so I chose to give up. Everyone has their own choices, as long as they are suitable for them. That's it

 

[Roland]

This is where I am very contradictory. I want both an infinite world like Minecraft and a more realistic texture like 7D. Minecraft supports more people, maybe I will consider

That's great. Tell me the date that you and your 5000 are switching over to Minecraft and I'll mark it down on my calendar...

so I chose to give up.

Not if you keep posting about it. How many more times do you plan to announce that it's over and you and all your many peeps are going to go elsewhere? Nobody here is trying to talk you out of it. You could be playing Minecraft right now but for informing us over and over again that you are considering it.

Everyone has their own choices, as long as they are suitable for them. That's it

So go make it. You have my blessing. Think of me every time you slice up a Creeper without it exploding.

 

[faatal]

By the time 7dtd is finished (which might very well be in 2024) there will be technology available to support maps that need 40+ GB of VIDEO memory to function properly, like that hypothetical  65k one.

Yeah, but will you be able to buy it?
Sure, in 2029!

 

[Blue mame]

That's great. Tell me the date that you and your 5000 are switching over to Minecraft and I'll mark it down on my calendar...

You put forward a reason that I cannot refuse. I will solve these problems during the A20 test. At least I will leave if I am not satisfied. I won't give you any advice

 

[wicketness]

This game is so much better and more realer then 7 days to die.

This is live in canada as we speak.


 

 

[Roland]

You put forward a reason that I cannot refuse. I will solve these problems during the A20 test. At least I will leave if I am not satisfied. I won't give you any advice

So we can look forward to more reports of how big your community is and how you all may be migrating to another game if things don't change the way you want them to after A20 drops? Oooh can't wait...

This game is so much better and more realer then 7 days to die.

This is live in canada as we speak.

Saying no to THAT game is super easy.

Barely an inconvenience.

 

[Gamida]

So we can look forward to more reports of how big your community is and how you all may be migrating to another game if things don't change the way you want them to after A20 drops? Oooh can't wait...

Saying no to THAT game is super easy.

Barely an inconvenience.

*sigh* I will be playing that game pretty soon. Am expecting to get maybe 5 or 6 months of gameplay before I finish.

 

[Guppycur]

Saying no to THAT game is super easy.

Barely an inconvenience.

That's TIGHT. 

 

[Spellslinger]

Can someone please explain why there is so much hate when they have yet to release A20?  All most people have is videos they have watched as only a handful of people have first hand knowledge because they have played.  Will there be issues? Most likely.  Will there be people complaining? Hell yes.  I have been playing since 9.x and there have been so many changes that the game continues to be fun and interesting.  Do I like ALL the changes, no but I do see that they were the best for the long run.  I paid $10 for this game and have gotten more than my moneys worth and more enjoyment than most of AAA games I have played.   So please try to stay possitive or at least polite.

 

[unholyjoe]

So we can look forward to more reports of how big your community is and how you all may be migrating to another game if things don't change the way you want them to after A20 drops? Oooh can't wait...

i'll bring the popcorn

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[stallionsden]

i'll bring the popcorn

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Unholyjoes shout for cinema priced snacks..

 

[Aldranon]

I'm a solo player, but as I have 8000 split personalities, I am (we are) MUCH more important than everyone else and deserve many more replies from moderators and devs!

Of course, I (we) have only paid for one game, this would be much more than 5000 people who just pirated the game.  Some countries pirate MUCH MUCH more than others..

So, my list of demands (for now):

-Vending machines that sell Coke Classic for 10 dukes (Giving you max stats for three days).

-A full sized airport with a 747 that I can fly, after fixing it completely with some duck tape (I like challenges) .

-Ziplines.  Ziplines everywhere!

 

[Blake_]

Ziplines? Lame. Limited range grappling hooks made out of forged iron, springs, tons of cloth and duct tape? YES.

 

[stallionsden]

I'm a solo player, but as I have 8000 split personalities, I am (we are) MUCH more important than everyone else and deserve many more replies from moderators and devs!

Of course, I (we) have only paid for one game, this would be much more than 5000 people who just pirated the game.  Some countries pirate MUCH MUCH more than others..

So, my list of demands (for now):

-Vending machines that sell Coke Classic for 10 dukes (Giving you max stats for three days).

-A full sized airport with a 747 that I can fly, after fixing it completely with some duck tape (I like challenges) .

-Ziplines.  Ziplines everywhere!

Oh gosh please hide this post from Oprah..

You get a airport, you get a airport, you get a airport and you all get a 747 lol

 

[Aldranon]

Ziplines? Lame. Limited range grappling hooks made out of forged iron, springs, tons of cloth and duct tape? YES.

Very good, minion Blake!  You shall now be promoted to Chief minion Blake.

Carry on!  (with more cool ideas!)

 

[Laz Man]

Can someone please explain why there is so much hate when they have yet to release A20?  All most people have is videos they have watched as only a handful of people have first hand knowledge because they have played.  Will there be issues? Most likely.  Will there be people complaining? Hell yes.  I have been playing since 9.x and there have been so many changes that the game continues to be fun and interesting.  Do I like ALL the changes, no but I do see that they were the best for the long run.  I paid $10 for this game and have gotten more than my moneys worth and more enjoyment than most of AAA games I have played.   So please try to stay possitive or at least polite.

Thanks and  hell of a 1st post. 

 

[NukemDed]

hey @roland

looks like most of the gang is lurking around here and there

any chance @madmole can come out and play?

 

[Gazz]

Lol you are cute. Destiny had 500+ of veteran devs and around 140 million US  dollars at the very start (starting with that much people is very important for the programming department specifically). And they took around 4 years since 2010 to release the first one. The Fun Pimps had 3 guys (Madmole, Rick, Robert and the pet give it or take)  and less than 200.000 dollars when they  started developing (kickstarter), with 6-15 people most of the time since. They achieved 45 guys just a year ago and training takes months . Stop comparing Bill Gates with my cat plz. An indie game is not a AAA one. The difference is budget.

Star Citizen started with multiple times the funding and is currently 9 years in development / EA.

(to be fair - buying ingame items in the cash shop is working fine)
 

Can someone please explain why there is so much hate when they have yet to release A20?  All most people have is videos they have watched as only a handful of people have first hand knowledge because they have played.

Nope, no one can. It's a genuine mystery for future generations to solve. =P

 

[JamesKirk]

You put forward a reason that I cannot refuse. I will solve these problems during the A20 test. At least I will leave if I am not satisfied. I won't give you any advice

You simply bought the wrong game!

Why?

If you would have watched some of the trailers, some gameplay videos or read anything else in advance you should have noticed that this game was mainly designed for single player AND for coop playing. Nothing else. PvP is only a collateral effect.

So why do you blame the developers for you own fault of selecting the wrong game for your personal needs?

Can someone please explain why there is so much hate when they have yet to release A20?  All most people have is videos they have watched as only a handful of people have first hand knowledge because they have played.  Will there be issues? Most likely.  Will there be people complaining? Hell yes.  I have been playing since 9.x and there have been so many changes that the game continues to be fun and interesting.  Do I like ALL the changes, no but I do see that they were the best for the long run.  I paid $10 for this game and have gotten more than my moneys worth and more enjoyment than most of AAA games I have played.   So please try to stay possitive or at least polite.

His first post, and he nailed it!

 

[meganoth]

Thanks and  hell of a 1st post. 

Weell, maybe its me, but I didn't see any "hate" here, we shouldn't put up strawman for the roasting. Bluemame for example was complaining very politely about a limitation that an earlier version didn't have and why shouldn't he get a chance to explain his view like everyone else here does.