PC Throwing Rocks

What is your number one reason for throwing rocks?

  • Practice for pipe bombs and molotovs

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Distract zombies

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Troll other players

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Send zombies into bears, wolves, and mountain lions

    Votes: 4 6.5%

  • Play Bocce in game with other players

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other: Explain below

    Votes: 4 6.5%

  • I don't throw rocks

    Votes: 28 45.2%
  • Total voters
    62
Whorhay said:
I don't think I've had both the shoes and jacket in the early game in awhile but it's not all that improbable, especially if you found a clothing store to raid. Steroids and Mega Crushes are a pretty common find as well from the right kind of loot containers. I frequently use them to run home fully loaded from raiding POI's in the early game. If the terrain isn't nice and flat I could easily see it being faster in practice than the Bike.
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theFlu said:
Padded armor says hi, 0 mobility penalties. 0 noise penalties. Somewhere around 35 armor rating. Add some noise reduction mods and stealth actually works reliably without points. Add armor mods for 10 more armor as the game progresses.

Or if you prefer, Military armor with two or more points in Light Armor perk and a Customized Fitting Mod, runs faster than naked (on the info page at least, might be capped by now.)
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Just link me to your video where you beat the bike in a flat out race. Use your roids and max everything out. I'm happy to recant once I see the evidence.

 
Roland said:
Just link me to your video where you beat the bike in a flat out race. Use your roids and max everything out. I'm happy to recant once I see the evidence.
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Hemorrhoids make us faster???? Well I can sort of see it yeah.

 
Throw, throw, throw your rocks

To distract the Z's

Rarely, rarely, rarely, rarely

Does it work it seems

(to Row, Row, Row Your Boat, for those that are confused)

 
They'll be runnin for yer rocks, if you throw

They'll be runnin for yer rocks, if you throw

It's just if they don't see you, oh It's just if they aint aggro

They'll be runnin for yer rocks, if you throw

If they're comin' fer yer brains they'll not go

If they're comin' fer yer brains they'll not go

It's just if they don't see you, oh its just if they aint aggro

They'll be runnin for yer rocks, if you throw

(To She'll Be Coming 'Round the Mountain When She Comes)

 
Roland said:
Just link me to your video where you beat the bike in a flat out race.
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You're insisting on seeing me run naked? :) Well, I haven't made a positive claim, yet, so I'm not recording a vid (would need a friend to test and setup a video sharing account somewhere and whatnot, way too much pointless effort for a playstyle difference argument... :) )

I did some sprinting in Departure, Navezgane though, East-west runs across the city, with the following results (not exactly scientific, but it is what I got.):

32s mega crush + jacket
32s mega crush + jacket + light armor perk + 5x custom fittings (so, likely capped, or 9% just doesn't show in my test)
35s bike (sprint on)
45s on foot (sprinting)

This is a straight line, any corners or obstacles will benefit the runner, and the crush is already a couple seconds faster.

Stamina use seems pretty similar per time spent (didn't check or use any of the stamina modifying stuff other than "Drinking" buff)

 
theFlu said:
Oh hey, it seems you can be convinced without video evidence? :) (ok, I'll stop ... :) )
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I never needed video evidence to know that I didn’t need to see you run naked. 
 

At any rate, as I said, perhaps you can set up the conditions using the creative menu to beat a rider on foot but in actual normal gameplay on an ongoing basis the bike is going to be more convenient and readily available. 
 

I will admit that running may be better and quicker than riding a bike in the desert or wasteland and is definitely better on horde night thanks to the vultures. 

 
Roland said:
I never needed video evidence to know that I didn’t need to see you run naked. 
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Yeah, no-one needs to see that.. I mean by bony physique might be appealing to some, but no-one wants to see me collapse after 20 feet ... :)

Roland said:
in actual normal gameplay on an ongoing basis the bike is going to be more convenient and readily available. 
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This is just a difference in approach and what one optimizes for; I'll readily admit that the bicycle is faster for anyone wearing heavy armor. But for my "actual normal gameplay" it offers very little speed increase at the cost of hunting down a couple of acid / wheels. Those are sometimes a real pain, and you might end up needing to hunt for more for the minibike the next day. Has happened to me.. I rather save the first two wheels for the mini-/motor bike.

If you need to spend any time to actually look specifically for the acids/wheels, you kinda have to reduce that time from the saved travel time - not entirely, but you could be doing something else more productive.

And for the phase of the game the pedal bike is relevant, eggs and hunting also are. The bike is just annoying for either, you'll either have to run back and forth for it (have fun while encumbered to the teeth) or try to park on top of a deer. "Where did I park it" is no longer a real issue with the icon, but you'll still have to run for it specifically.

I fully understand others playing a different meta and thus appreciating the bike more, and it's just good fun bunnyhopping along the countryside, but for me.. no thanks :)

 
theFlu said:
32s mega crush + jacket
32s mega crush + jacket + light armor perk + 5x custom fittings (so, likely capped, or 9% just doesn't show in my test)
35s bike (sprint on)
45s on foot (sprinting)
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I never have enough Mega crushes to be able to use them in place of the bicycle.  Typically I have a few that I save for Horde night in case things go South.

By the time I get to the point of either 32s run conditions, I am typically at mini-bike so stamina usage is moot for transportation.

 
BFT2020 said:
I never have enough Mega crushes to be able to use them in place of the bicycle.  Typically I have a few that I save for Horde night in case things go South.

By the time I get to the point of either 32s run conditions, I am typically at mini-bike so stamina usage is moot for transportation.
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Yeh, agreed. The whole Mega Crush tangent started from a "It's fun to sprint home at night with a lucky book and a drink". They're not too rare to have roughly one per day if you make it a goal (drop in to loot all the soda machines you know of), but I wouldn't suggest trying to rely on them as a means of transport.

But it's "things are fun to know", who knows, might even mean something in a pinch (hoping A20 will be able to throw something of that nature at our way) when you try to decide whether to flee on a bike or on a crush.. :)

 
Gotta be careful when throwing rocks to lure zombies into hostile animals. Sometimes the zombie focuses only on the rock and can get killed before he even weakens the four-legged meal that I'm trying to soften up before dinner. 

 
I throw rocks fairly often too, mostly to distract zombies or lead them to hostile animals,  or into minefields--that's a hoot!  I've also used it a few times to gather up a wandering horde that had halted so that I could lob a molotov and get most of them.  I recall in past alphas using thrown rocks to lead around hostile animals, but lately all my encounters seem to be of the "suddenly TEETH! CLAWS! OHGOD!" variety.

I've noticed that while a zombie is pursuing a rock they're totally fixated and will ignore everything else, you can walk along behind them making all the noise you like, even hit them and they'll keep on following the rock to where it stopped before paying you any mind.

 
I use rocks as a combo of distraction and to lead them into areas I would like them to go, ie getting eaten by an animal

 
I throw rocks every play through.  Since I play on Survivalist difficulty, it is my early game strategy for surviving through the first nights while I build or dig buried supplies.  Occasionally I'll use it for the animal vs zombie death matches to distract and/or soften up early game dogs/bears.

For mid game, it continues to be a survival mechanism while operating in wasteland areas, especially at night.  Extremely useful to keep the zombie bears & numerous ferals at a comfortable distance.

Late game I find rock throwing much less useful unless I want to work in wasteland un-bothered, especially at night.

 
I used to throw the brown rocks every day, but then TPF injected industrial grade stool hardener into everyone's guts.

 
I used to never throw rocks. Then I modded the game so it was Very hard (for me) and found new joy in things like throwing rocks and having to swap out weapons (spear/club/bone knife/rock/blunderbuss) based on situation bs relying on “old faithful standard build out that always works for me”.

anyway: if you don’t see a point in rock throwing, try upping the game difficulty until you literally go “oh crap, I’m going to die unless … is there a rock or something nearby… oh gawd a single rock…. (Throws it)….wow I managed to survive that!”.  Of course, this will be early game but in theory I guess you could make it so difficult that rocks would become a permeant weapon on your tool belt, but I can’t imagine making so many changes that (in a game like this) you wouldn’t eventually just have a lot of clubs/spears… maybe if you made the toolbelt and backpack like “1 slot available” or something crazy ;)

 
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