AMD driver bug

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Darklegend222

Refugee
specs:

CPU: i9-10850k

GPU: Radeon RX 6700XT

Drive: 2tb Samsung Evo SSD

Ram: 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz

Monitors: MSI OPTIX Mag27cq, and an old Element TV.

Issue: Upon getting the 6700xt, i've noticed flickering and darkening textures when I walk.

More info: The flickering and darkening occurs when I do ANTYING, walking/attacking/looking around on everything. I haven't noticed any flickering on enemies but that could be since I'm not looking hard enough. I tested the game on my old GTX 960 2GB (yea I'm that guy) and it had no problems on either monitor. I've noticed the game SCUM has issues with flickering as well where the ENTIRE screen flickers white every 4-8 seconds rendering it unplayable (I'm well aware its a different game, its to shed more light on whats going on). For some reason I can't catch the issue when I do a recording or an instant-replay, I can do a recording on my phone if you make it so.

Attempted solutions: Testing each monitor individually, used the old/new HDMI, DP, DVI cables, upgrading the AMD drivers to the latest 21.6.1, and downgrading to the least (I'm using not the least but currently using 21.3.2), lowering all settings to low and high within the game, changed the MSI monitor's refresh rate to off/extreme, disabling and enabling "Freesync", moving the game to a different drive, using DDU to completely wipe all the Nvidia and AMD data, disabled every Radeon feature, OpenGL launch option, and used different ports on the GPU.

Edit: it's a 6000 series issue. Unsure if it's a game developer, or a Radeon driver issue.

 
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All AMD GPUs tend to have issues with games, that's why they're the inferior brand to go with (their current CPUs are awesome though). Their drivers and software has always been kind of bad when it comes to games.

To fix your issue, apparently just messing around with some settings in the control panel will solve (or at least lessen) the issue. Don't ask me what though as I haven't used an AMD GPU for gaming in over 15 years. I just know this based on what everyone else has said on this forum (and others).

EDIT: To the 3 dummies that gave me a thumbs down... do some research before judging (it literally only takes a minute to prove me right). It is a very well known fact that this game and most other games favor Nvidia GPUs while being developped as they are more commonly used in games and it is well known that AMD has a bad reputation with their drivers and software since pretty much the beginning. If you're a casual or new to gaming, then maybe there's a small possibility that you may not have had that many issues yet, but this is the reason why the majority of gamers and devs favor Nvidia despite the higher price tags.

Additionally, I'd like to clarify that I in no way dispute the performances of both brand names, only the reliability and support.

 
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Darklegend222 said:
I don't know anyone else with the 6700XT to confirm the issues so it really puts a damper on confirming what works/doesn't work.
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To narrow it down, I'd start by turning off every graphic option both in the game and in AMD's software. (or lowest if off is not available) Then see if it still does it.

If not, then turn them up one by one until you can repro the issue.

Is power possibly an issue? 6 and 8 pin connected? Maybe check them. Power supply? Your cpu and gpu are both pretty power hungry.

 
Beelzybub said:
To narrow it down, I'd start by turning off every graphic option both in the game and in AMD's software. (or lowest if off is not available) Then see if it still does it.

If not, then turn them up one by one until you can repro the issue.

Is power possibly an issue? 6 and 8 pin connected? Maybe check them. Power supply? Your cpu and gpu are both pretty power hungry.
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I can play ark on 1440p on epic settings without a single graphical issue, same with Horizon Zero Dawn. The Gpu hits 80c and the cpu hits 60% so i can vouch for power being fine.

I should've added that i disabled every single radeon setting available to off/application controlled. It makes the flickering less noticeable (still there) on 7 days to die.. while making the entire game look like a giant blob.

Edit: I'll also add, i had to downgrade the AMD driver to 21.3.2 in order to even play Horizon Zero Dawn as it is the only one that doesn't crash the game.

 
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If anyone is still possibly reading this, the issue is within the AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series cards.

I've had confirmations within multiple discussions on multiple forums and discords.

It's still a gray area whether it's on AMDs end, or the game developers end. People are saying it's possibly game developers not optimizing for Radeon, or card manufacturers doing bad with software.

All I've managed to figure out with the help of the community: Radeon 6000 series is buggy and we're still on 100% is causing it. Flickering is a problem for everyone, and crashes on other games like Praey for the Gods are occurring as well.

Do with that information what you will, I'm not equipped enough to dive deep into the possible fixes for it, but it's a good idea to bring it to the attention of everyone otherwise a fix will never be on the radar or in sight.

 
Darklegend222 said:
If anyone is still possibly reading this, the issue is within the AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series cards.

I've had confirmations within multiple discussions on multiple forums and discords.

It's still a gray area whether it's on AMDs end, or the game developers end. People are saying it's possibly game developers not optimizing for Radeon, or card manufacturers doing bad with software.

All I've managed to figure out with the help of the community: Radeon 6000 series is buggy and we're still on 100% is causing it. Flickering is a problem for everyone, and crashes on other games like Praey for the Gods are occurring as well.

Do with that information what you will, I'm not equipped enough to dive deep into the possible fixes for it, but it's a good idea to bring it to the attention of everyone otherwise a fix will never be on the radar or in sight.
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Thanks for the update, but can you be more specific:  Are the confirmations only about different Unity games? Or are they about games with different graphics engines?

At least Praey according to the internet seems to use Unity as well.

 
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meganoth said:
Thanks for the update, but can you be more specific:  Are the confirmations only about different Unity games? Or are they about games with different graphics engines?

At least Praey according to the internet seems to use Unity as well.
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I am believing it's more based on shaders. I see minimal flickering at noon within the game, but in the shade/night it gets atrocious.

Praey has intense crashing issues on the latest drivers, i did more testing and an older driver fixes it.

As for SCUM, I believe it uses Unity as well, and I've found turning the lighting effects to the lowest possible setting makes the lightning not cause my entire screen to go white, just all the trees and the sky. It also has terrain with a lot of black patches moving around the terrain, which a lot of games are having the issue.

It seems to be a shader issue from what I've gathered. Yet I'm not sure whether drivers or game developers need fixes/patches, perhaps both?

Beelzybub said:
Maybe the card manufacturer has a firmware/bios update that will help? Try underclocking?
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I've undervolted, and disabled XMP to test. There's a lot of forums and discords claiming the 6000 series is having problems in Unity and Early Access games.

I've not noticed anything in Killing Floor, Ark, Minecraft, Deep Rock Galactic, Doom, or Skyrim.

It's purely in select games which is rather odd, I don't know a lot of people with a 6000 series card to do their own testing. But there are plenty of forums of people having issues, so I think it's safe to say my card isn't faulty as not every game has problems and out of my 200 game library, this is what I found.. So far.

 
Reminds me of the issues with the 5700-series when it released. Took AMD something like a year and a half to fix the driver package.

 
SylenThunder said:
Reminds me of the issues with the 5700-series when it released. Took AMD something like a year and a half to fix the driver package.
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I haven't stopped delving into the problem despite that I can't fix anything on my end (aside from a Nvidia card) and it is really going to come down to their drivers from what I can tell.

An RX 580 has 0 graphical issues, my old 960 didn't have issues, the 5000 series "had" issues, and the 6000 series has massive issues. From what I've continuously gathered, it might be another 2-6 months before it gets resolved/worked on, and it might take a lot of the top-tier articles putting pressure on AMD to fix them much like the 5000 series.

It's a shame, more vram and core clock than a 3070, AMD genuinely peaked my interest but it may be back to Nvidia when this card "fails".

 
Jugginator said:
Could you snag a quick video showing the glitches?
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I've actually had one, it's difficult with how long it takes to upload on YouTube.

But I'll get the video to you within the day hopefully.

Edit: i made a recording, it's not great but it's the best I could since a 55mb file takes 40 minutes to upload, a 1gb file straight from the recording software would take literally forever.




I managed to get a recording of SCUM on my phone at the very least, but YouTube won't let me upload more than 1 video in a 24 hour-period.

 
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Here's what I am seeing on my 6900 XT.  Some are saying it is water but there is no water in this scene.  This is a NEPA base and there are some very reflective textures.  There is water (DF rain catchers) on the roof, but not visible.



 
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On 11/16/2021 at 11:13 PM, BruiseSwayne said:

Here's what I am seeing on my 6900 XT.  Some are saying it is water but there is no water in this scene.  This is a NEPA base and there are some very reflective textures.  There is water (DF rain catchers) on the roof, but not visible.

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Does it go away if you turn off reflections?

 
meganoth said:
Does it go away if you turn off reflections?
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Apologies for the delayed response.

No.  Changing Reflections Quality and/or Shadow Reflections does not affect it.  I turned them both to Off and the issue was still there.

 
SylenThunder said:
Reminds me of the issues with the 5700-series when it released. Took AMD something like a year and a half to fix the driver package.
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Pretty much the same card, that's why. It apparently uses the exact same core configuration using the exact TSMC 7nm manufacturing process, they just optimized or overclocked it a little bit.

 
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