PC Future of 7dtd - sequel or dlc?

[pApA^LeGBa]

It´s still 8 zombies max. That´s nice. No sorry, that´s cute. That´s what it is. Propably will see more zombies than now but still nowhere near to what is actually needed to not feel like playing in an empty world.

I was really hoping for at least the option to have more zombies but i guess not. I was playing with that low zombie count, hoping it would get better but seeing it will not really is demotivating.

Well there is still the pile of shame in my steam library that i need to finally play trough.

 

[Matt115]

That is exactly what I was talking about in this post:

https://community.7daystodie.com/topic/25122-future-of-7dtd-sequel-or-dlc/?do=findComment&comment=441230

The unannounced game they are working on is surely a different game. They will not start working earnestly on 7D2D 2 before they have 7D2D 1 out of the door.

Yes and no : honestly if they decided to make "7dtd but in medival setting" but with diffrent name like " last days of medival earth" it will have diffrent name but it will similiar

 

[Matt115]

Play Romero mod if you want more zombies.   Nothing like going to a trader and having to take down a 40+ wandering horde just so you can turn in your quest and get your sweet sweet rewards.

I like having more zombies, but I understand TFP's position.  They are optimizing the game around the normal default setting and lower spec computers so more people can enjoy this game, not around those of us that can spend the extra money on a new machine.

Honestly i saw a mod that change number of zombies but with creature pack i think something can go wrong. btw funny thing - in romeo  night of walking dead you have zombie kid and this zombie even use tool to kill her mother

@BFT2020 Nah romero changes too much. I would play it if the only things changed would be headshots only, more zombies and bigger wandering hordes. But he also removed bloodmoon and did a lot of other changes i don´t like.

The walking only also will get too easy once you reach a certain level.

I have a 170$ CPU and i can play romero with 5X spawn and large wandering hordes just fine. Too bad it changes too much.

And tbh, i don´t wanna have to mess with mods. A few here and there for fun, like flying sharks is noce, but that´s a shorttime fun for trying out once.

@meganoth I can already see that limit going down to 6 or even 4 with feral senses if that really leads to more zombies at once. If we now are on the limit for minimum specs that needs to be adjusted to keep it there following the logic that we only have low zombie numbers due to minimum spec.

There is no mechanic that can replace simply having more zombies.

problem with 7dtd mods - if 1 thing is good rest of them just meh

I think the spawing is area-based and not based on players. I'm quite sure that a better event system could drastically change the game

Honestly i think event like alarm ( like screamer but thing) could do a lot. you know it will give feeling that zombies are somewhere but they are hiding in building etc

It´s still 8 zombies max. That´s nice. No sorry, that´s cute. That´s what it is. Propably will see more zombies than now but still nowhere near to what is actually needed to not feel like playing in an empty world.

I was really hoping for at least the option to have more zombies but i guess not. I was playing with that low zombie count, hoping it would get better but seeing it will not really is demotivating.

Well there is still the pile of shame in my steam library that i need to finally play trough.

yeah. but honestly we need to wait on sequel or new game. btw i hope TFP will create a something like 7dtd but in medival setting but darker and more edgy like the plague tale

 

[Matt115]

@meganoth listen i have idea : 7dtd was kinda of pioneer of sanbox zombie game right?

So the best idea could be prequel of 7dtd in 1800's. it sound weird? yeah but we have tools blunderbuss forgers etc. just add more old items. ok i will try to write this easy to read as possible :

Background ; you and few people learn about nevegane from drunk soldier. he tell about this place and about missing soldiers plutoon. you and rest was thinking the information about missing soldiers is just legend. 

You all decided to get there. Your horses were almost dead, kids went barefoot throught miles. but finaly you find your perfect place on earth. but week later when you and few other go on hunting you feel eartquake. You came back but yours familles became zombies. Now you must survive.

Okay about maps and the most important thing weather - well there are not inveted nukes yet so play peninsula cutted from land by big canyon full of gas and rest sides have sea as borders. In this game zombies are smaller threat that your biggest enemy - winter and hunger. You have for example 2 weeks to preper againt snow and wind. but when snow is on zombies are more active - dead indians, piooniers soldiers animals.  so spikes are needed. 

mechanics - more advanced blacksmithing, you can raise animals ,hunting fishes in lakes and animals in forest using traps. most things like skills types of crafting this same as 7dtd but more new items like sword, halberds or blackpowder rifles.

Setting- it darker and more deppresing - zombie kids , you can find hanging soldiers in wood , in some villages you can find stakes with burned corpses. The very important thing is gas. you and your mates inhale it so you can sometimes see ghosts but it is just hallucinations, it will create more "horror " feeling.

Enemies - ofc zombies, animals , indians , BOE - British Occult Expedition. 

The bigest diffrences between 7dtd and this game: small number of houses and cites, more caves camps , loot is only small addition to haversting, smaller number of enemies because weather thirsty, illness and hunger is you main enemy. 

What do you think about?

And rest of you guys? 

 

[meganoth]

@meganoth listen i have idea : 7dtd was kinda of pioneer of sanbox zombie game right?

So the best idea could be prequel of 7dtd in 1800's. it sound weird? yeah but we have tools blunderbuss forgers etc. just add more old items. ok i will try to write this easy to read as possible :

Background ; you and few people learn about nevegane from drunk soldier. he tell about this place and about missing soldiers plutoon. you and rest was thinking the information about missing soldiers is just legend. 

You all decided to get there. Your horses were almost dead, kids went barefoot throught miles. but finaly you find your perfect place on earth. but week later when you and few other go on hunting you feel eartquake. You came back but yours familles became zombies. Now you must survive.

Okay about maps and the most important thing weather - well there are not inveted nukes yet so play peninsula cutted from land by big canyon full of gas and rest sides have sea as borders. In this game zombies are smaller threat that your biggest enemy - winter and hunger. You have for example 2 weeks to preper againt snow and wind. but when snow is on zombies are more active - dead indians, piooniers soldiers animals.  so spikes are needed. 

mechanics - more advanced blacksmithing, you can raise animals ,hunting fishes in lakes and animals in forest using traps. most things like skills types of crafting this same as 7dtd but more new items like sword, halberds or blackpowder rifles.

Setting- it darker and more deppresing - zombie kids , you can find hanging soldiers in wood , in some villages you can find stakes with burned corpses. The very important thing is gas. you and your mates inhale it so you can sometimes see ghosts but it is just hallucinations, it will create more "horror " feeling.

Enemies - ofc zombies, animals , indians , BOE - British Occult Expedition. 

The bigest diffrences between 7dtd and this game: small number of houses and cites, more caves camps , loot is only small addition to haversting, smaller number of enemies because weather thirsty, illness and hunger is you main enemy. 

What do you think about?

And rest of you guys? 

Medieval 7D2D, 7D2D in wild west, 7D2D in space, 7D2D on alien planet, 7d2d in the new world, 7D2D in asia, 7D2D in a matrix

If you need a variation for some other future 7d2d feel free to take one . This is so far in the future (or already a done deal). And I will be happy about any good new game in 7d2d style, no matter the scenario.

But the future we are looking at is the game finished in about 2 years, then probably another few years of development for the game that is just this 7D2D, only bigger and faster and for more modern machines.

That is unless one of the yet unannounced games is a zombie games as well, in that case just wait for the announcement, the scenario and story will already be fixed.

The forum is filled with people who have ideas. Some like you are a fountain of ideas, others think of something they would like very much and specifically make an account to post that idea. But the truth is that ideas are cheap and easy to come by, the developers of this game already thought of more ideas for this game than they could develop in a hundred years.

 

[Matt115]

Medieval 7D2D, 7D2D in wild west, 7D2D in space, 7D2D on alien planet, 7d2d in the new world, 7D2D in asia, 7D2D in a matrix

If you need a variation for some other future 7d2d feel free to take one . This is so far in the future (or already a done deal). And I will be happy about any good new game in 7d2d style, no matter the scenario.

But the future we are looking at is the game finished in about 2 years, then probably another few years of development for the game that is just this 7D2D, only bigger and faster and for more modern machines.

That is unless one of the yet unannounced games is a zombie games as well, in that case just wait for the announcement, the scenario and story will already be fixed.

The forum is filled with people who have ideas. Some like you are a fountain of ideas, others think of something they would like very much and specifically make an account to post that idea. But the truth is that ideas are cheap and easy to come by, the developers of this game already thought of more ideas for this game than they could develop in a hundred years.

honestly 7dtd in space coudn't works good just experience .XD 

honestly i don't expect nothing big after bandits + story. they will probably add vr support and that's will be all. honestly scenario and story can be change - tf2 is good example. it was  first realistic more simliar game with venicles ( yep you can find a lot of informations about it) but they decided to change setting and mechanics because fans were dissapointed. That why after cod inifinity war we get ww2. resident evil 4 had changed setting and story too. so even after announcement a lot of thing can be changed (cyberpunk as example)

 

[meganoth]

honestly 7dtd in space coudn't works good just experience .XD 

Bah, where is your imagination? 7D2D on a huge generation ship where deep freeze turned most people into zombies. Race to the bridge to turn the ship away from plunging into a sun.

honestly i don't expect nothing big after bandits + story. they will probably add vr support and that's will be all. honestly scenario and story can be change - tf2 is good example. it was  first realistic more simliar game with venicles ( yep you can find a lot of informations about it) but they decided to change setting and mechanics because fans were dissapointed. That why after cod inifinity war we get ww2. resident evil 4 had changed setting and story too. so even after announcement a lot of thing can be changed (cyberpunk as example)

VR support is not enough for an expansion or a real version 2. They have to deliver more if they want to sell it to a mass of people apart from the core players.

 

[Matt115]

Bah, where is your imagination? 7D2D on a huge generation ship where deep freeze turned most people into zombies. Race to the bridge to turn the ship away from plunging into a sun.

VR support is not enough for an expansion or a real version 2. They have to deliver more if they want to sell it to a mass of people apart from the core players.

XD pff it can't  work! it will be dead space but.. "with normal zombies' so nope XD

Honestly 7dtd is too "safe" it need some controversy to get attention - it need some "horror expansions pack " for 9,99 euro. you know zombie teens, occult bandits with pentagrams , hanging corpses , psycho clows in  amusment  park. Honestly zombies game need controversy- walkind dead have controversy , l4d2 had controversy, dying light days gone last of us itd

So good will be keep "base game" safe and if  someone want this stuff it can bought it. so it will legal and keep players + cash flow + brings more players

 

[meganoth]

XD pff it can't  work! it will be dead space but.. "with normal zombies' so nope XD

If you can only think in the context of other games your imagination will never run freely.

Honestly 7dtd is too "safe" it need some controversy to get attention - it need some "horror expansions pack " for 9,99 euro. you know zombie teens, occult bandits with pentagrams , hanging corpses , psycho clows in  amusment  park. Honestly zombies game need controversy- walkind dead have controversy , l4d2 had controversy, dying light days gone last of us itd

Sure, and there need to be lots of newsstands in the game for it to be a success .

This is just you thinking everyone has the same taste as you. But 7D2D is already a success for its small team, they obviously must have made something right if players play the game for hundreds and sometimes thousands of hours.

Regularily some players turn up and know exactly how 7D2D can be more successful. Next week I'm sure a real-time-strategy player will create an account and tell TFP that RTS is the new trend and the game needs lots of armies you have to command and send to the base of other players to strike it rich . Two years ago it was PvP players who knew the road to success. Its just everyone knowingly or unknowingly pushing their own agenda to get this game moved nearer to the own comfort space.

So good will be keep "base game" safe and if  someone want this stuff it can bought it. so it will legal and keep players + cash flow + brings more players

 

[Matt115]

If you can only think in the context of other games your imagination will never run freely.

Sure, and there need to be lots of newsstands in the game for it to be a success .

This is just you thinking everyone has the same taste as you. But 7D2D is already a success for its small team, they obviously must have made something right if players play the game for hundreds and sometimes thousands of hours.

Regularily some players turn up and know exactly how 7D2D can be more successful. Next week I'm sure a real-time-strategy player will create an account and tell TFP that RTS is the new trend and the game needs lots of armies you have to command and send to the base of other players to strike it rich . Two years ago it was PvP players who knew the road to success. Its just everyone knowingly or unknowingly pushing their own agenda to get this game moved nearer to the own comfort space.

well story of gaming tell this is to risky XD only dead space works good.

Honestly : i know people have tons of ideas. But do you ever played l4d2? if yes you should know a Charger special infected. this type of zombie was idea from forum and devs use this . so if 100 people wrote their idea maybe 1 of them will be usefull for TFP. i know i can be too much optimistic (greatest irony in my life lol) . You never know if idea about animatrinics hunting for orphans in steampunk victorian era would inspire them right? 

this sound like the happy few mixed with fnaf lol. maybe it could be interesting

 

[Telly G]

This kind of thread has been popping up pretty much every few months since A15

 

[Matt115]

This kind of thread has been popping up pretty much every few months since A15

Okay... did  we  get information about dlc ?

 

[Telly G]

the pimps want to make a sequel or a different project after everything is said and done with 7dtd

 

[Roland]

TFP has previously said that they plan to continue to add content to the game after release. Whether it will be free content or not is up in the air. They have made this game very moddable and because of that, any content they add that they expect fans to pay for better be significant enough that fans wouldn't be able to just get it anyway for free from a mod. So, most post launch updates in the future are likely to be free content. 

 

[Matt115]

the pimps want to make a sequel or a different project after everything is said and done with 7dtd

okay so we can consider if it will be sequel  7dtd or maybe something similiar but with medival setting etc. If i good remember madmole like medival period so this idea sounds logical

 

[Roland]

the pimps want to make a sequel or a different project after everything is said and done with 7dtd

TFP doesn't plan to stray too far from what they know how to do. So even if the next project is different, it isn't going to very different. Its not like they are going to shift into card battle games or top down real time strategy. I'm sure that whatever they offer as their next game, people will see it as a spiritual sequel even if it isn't a direct sequel.

 

[Matt115]

TFP has previously said that they plan to continue to add content to the game after release. Whether it will be free content or not is up in the air. They have made this game very moddable and because of that, any content they add that they expect fans to pay for better be significant enough that fans wouldn't be able to just get it anyway for free from a mod. So, most post launch updates in the future are likely to be free content. 

yeah but in this sitations mods can kill paid  addons. so free content can mean "fixes" too, well it will be now content but adding nothing to game. honestly modders can add a lot - skyrim , bf2 or black ops 3 is good example. honestly fans can get everything from mods - new zombie models? mods . tanks? mods? honestly even more that paid stuff - you can make titans from snk without risk of sue if you make a mod. of dunno characters from walking dead as playermodels for example.

Add to this :   devs will never add controversial things in dlc for example - occult cult or skinhead army because law in germany australia bla bla bla.  Moders can do this only

 

[Star69]

yeah but in this sitations mods can kill paid  addons. so free content can mean "fixes" too, well it will be now content but adding nothing to game. honestly modders can add a lot - skyrim , bf2 or black ops 3 is good example. honestly fans can get everything from mods - new zombie models? mods . tanks? mods? honestly even more that paid stuff - you can make titans from snk without risk of sue if you make a mod. of dunno characters from walking dead as playermodels for example.

Add to this :   devs will never add controversial things in dlc for example - occult cult or skinhead army because law in germany australia bla bla bla.  Moders can do this only

In case you weren’t aware, Madmole got his start in games by making mods for Skyrim if I remember correctly. So he really understands what should be modded and what should come from the developers. I would expect to see quite high-end unique stuff from any dlc while continuing to support the great stuff coming from the modding community.

 

[Matt115]

In case you weren’t aware, Madmole got his start in games by making mods for Skyrim if I remember correctly. So he really understands what should be modded and what should come from the developers. I would expect to see quite high-end unique stuff from any dlc while continuing to support the great stuff coming from the modding community.

and he probably know that only thing it can be done is sue modders but it will be bad for PR reasons. honestly some mods to witcher 1 are so "expanded" that it's looks like if it createred by cd projekt. so mods are good for  firsts games in series but sequels better to be not moddable. honestly mocd to cod bo 3 looks even better that maps to cod bo4. so people  bought it? well multiplayer battleroyal and story of zombies.

 

[Roland]

and he probably know that only thing it can be done is sue modders but it will be bad for PR

Uh….they designed the game specifically to be modded. They aren’t going to not sue modders because of PR issues. They won’t sue them because they will have given modders all the tools they need to do whatever their creativity leads them to do. You really have no idea about the attitude of the developers towards mods and modding if you think for an instant they are going to try to limit or discourage modders in any way. 
 

They will not which is why updates that add content that could easily be modded anyway will most likely be free.

Now, the sharknado …..that’ll cost.