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Morloc
Arch Necromancer
With the guitar guy ? They could change him for a punk girl
I dunno...I like punk girls as much as the next fellow, but Guitar Guy has a very honored/special place in the post-apocalypse universe.
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Survager
Tester
Hello everybody and @faatal @madmole
I have a good question for the developers... I hope this is a good question and I will get an answer)
So, we know that in Alpha 20, the zombie spider will change a lot, and I really wish that his capabilities were not limited only to the ability to jump long distances.
How do you look to partially restore the ability of spiders to interact with vertical surfaces?
I'm not talking about returning the ability to crawl on walls to spider zombies, I understand that finding paths requires a lot of resources and this is contrary to the path of the developers.
My idea is to give the spider zombie the ability to stick to the vertical part of the walls or to the ceiling after jumping. And also a zombie spider could jump from one surface to another.
My guess is that the spider zombie won't be able to crawl up vertical walls and ceilings, but it could well start breaking blocks next to it after it sticks to such a surface. And if the spider zombie takes minimal damage, he could just fall down or jump in any direction.
As far as I can see, this shouldn't affect the pathfinding for this type of zombie, but it will make the spiders quite dangerous for the player base )
What do you think about this idea?
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I have a good question for the developers... I hope this is a good question and I will get an answer)
So, we know that in Alpha 20, the zombie spider will change a lot, and I really wish that his capabilities were not limited only to the ability to jump long distances.
How do you look to partially restore the ability of spiders to interact with vertical surfaces?
I'm not talking about returning the ability to crawl on walls to spider zombies, I understand that finding paths requires a lot of resources and this is contrary to the path of the developers.
My idea is to give the spider zombie the ability to stick to the vertical part of the walls or to the ceiling after jumping. And also a zombie spider could jump from one surface to another.
My guess is that the spider zombie won't be able to crawl up vertical walls and ceilings, but it could well start breaking blocks next to it after it sticks to such a surface. And if the spider zombie takes minimal damage, he could just fall down or jump in any direction.
As far as I can see, this shouldn't affect the pathfinding for this type of zombie, but it will make the spiders quite dangerous for the player base )
What do you think about this idea?
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Привет всем.
У меня есть хороший вопрос к разработчикам... я надеюсь, что это хороший вопрос и я получу на него ответ )
Итак, мы знаем, что в 20 Альфе зомби паук сильно изменится, и мне очень хотелось бы, что его возможности не ограничивались только возможностью прыгать на большие расстояния.
Как вы смотрите на то, чтобы частично вернуть паукам способность взаимодействовать с вертикальными поверхностями?
Я говорю не о том, чтобы вернуть зомби-паукам способность ползать по стенам, я понимаю, что на поиск путей требуется очень много ресурсов и это противоречит пути разработчиков.
Моя идея заключается в том, чтобы дать зомби-пауку способность после прыжка прилипать к вертикальной части стен или к потолку. А так же зомби-паук мог бы прыгать с одной поверхности на другую.
Я предполагаю, что зомби-паук не сможет ползать по вертикальным стенам и потолкам, но он вполне мог бы начать разрушать блоки рядом с собой после того как прилипнет к такой поверхности. А если зомби-паук получает минимальный урон, он мог бы просто падать вниз или прыгать в произвольном направлении.
Как я вижу, это не должно повлиять на поиск путей для такого типа зомби, но это сделает пауков довольно опасными для базы игрока )
Что скажете об этой идее?
У меня есть хороший вопрос к разработчикам... я надеюсь, что это хороший вопрос и я получу на него ответ )
Итак, мы знаем, что в 20 Альфе зомби паук сильно изменится, и мне очень хотелось бы, что его возможности не ограничивались только возможностью прыгать на большие расстояния.
Как вы смотрите на то, чтобы частично вернуть паукам способность взаимодействовать с вертикальными поверхностями?
Я говорю не о том, чтобы вернуть зомби-паукам способность ползать по стенам, я понимаю, что на поиск путей требуется очень много ресурсов и это противоречит пути разработчиков.
Моя идея заключается в том, чтобы дать зомби-пауку способность после прыжка прилипать к вертикальной части стен или к потолку. А так же зомби-паук мог бы прыгать с одной поверхности на другую.
Я предполагаю, что зомби-паук не сможет ползать по вертикальным стенам и потолкам, но он вполне мог бы начать разрушать блоки рядом с собой после того как прилипнет к такой поверхности. А если зомби-паук получает минимальный урон, он мог бы просто падать вниз или прыгать в произвольном направлении.
Как я вижу, это не должно повлиять на поиск путей для такого типа зомби, но это сделает пауков довольно опасными для базы игрока )
Что скажете об этой идее?
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Blake_
Captain Obvious
Quite a while ago, they showed a WIP drone with taser capabilities (like the stun baton). So that might happen. It wouldn't be OP at all and it would wrap up the whole "control the environment" feeling that INT has. I dig it.
Actually, it would be the same. What it does now (a19) is destroying the wood frame and adding the damage value to the downgrade (or rather, substracting the remaining damaged hp to the downgrade). With the a20 update it would be exactly the same because the hp of the blocks they took away will be added to the wood block.
So imagine you have a "frame", which you upgraded to a "wood block" and then to a "further upgraded wood block" for a total of around 800hp. You break the further upgraded wood block and get, say, a frame with 20 hp as the final result.
In a20 you will get the one block with 800 with the same end result, except it won't downgrade, you just end up with a 20 hp wood block .
Survager
Tester
@faatal In truth, one thing that bothers me the most now, at 19 Alpha, is that explosion damage goes through walls, even if it doesn't destroy them. So Demolisher, when exploding, can destroy with his explosion everything that is behind the steel wall (relays, switches, etc.), while the wall does not collapse.
Is this a game bug or is this the way it should work?
Is this a game bug or is this the way it should work?
hiemfire
New member
Blake_
Captain Obvious
Nope. It does exactly that. It increases the damage against wood blocks and allows you to one shot all the blocks that are made of plain wood (1 upgrade), which is present in a lot of POI. You also do increased damage to trees (yeah, with an axe, from a shotgun book bonus, lol). Now, with upgraded wood (2 upgrades from frame) it might not destroy the block. So that's what "most" means. Not all.
hiemfire
New member
Still means it is going to need to be revisited because, if it functions the way you say it does, then it will one shot no wood blocks after the change is implemented. Even fixing the set bonus description so it won't be a lie post implementation of the change is a revisiting.
jorbascrumps
New member
All of those things have been pushed to A21 according to the first page.Blake_ said:
Marinxar
New member
Yeah, I know it's not a solution for everyone, but first thing I do is mod out the demolishers, before I start playing. So many things that just screams, cheap fix to something we can't be bothered to fix, about it.
dcsobral
New member
I saw yesterday that Night of the Dead introduced electrical traps, including a couple of kinetic traps I've wished for in 7d2d since alpha 16, literally, and something that has always been a pet peeve of my for their lack in 7d2d: AND, OR and XOR gates. I've grudgingly accepted no new electrical traps, but I still dearly want some of that gating and I hope this might be revisited before going gold.
Chained triggers are equivalent to an OR gate, but there is no OR gate for switches. Triggers with relays between them and switches are equivalent to an AND gate. There's no equivalent to a XOR gate, or a NOT, and that severely limits what can be done.
Chained triggers are equivalent to an OR gate, but there is no OR gate for switches. Triggers with relays between them and switches are equivalent to an AND gate. There's no equivalent to a XOR gate, or a NOT, and that severely limits what can be done.
BFT2020
Well-known member
It really depends on how they implemented this feature. If the perk just adds bonus damage against wooden blocks, then increasing the HP of the block would balance it out. If it checks to see if the block is wooden and completely destroys it, then that will require a completely different approach. We do know, based on MadMole's comments, that they will be balancing out the durability of the blocks when they introduce the new destruction mechanics.
The developers play with everything, not sure where this comment came from or its intent.
Burrfly
New member
Do you mean these kind of electrical logic gates?
That indeed is really cool. Could add a lot of features to electrical systems indeed.
Kalen
New member
Do you mean these kind of electrical logic gates?
That indeed is really cool. Could add a lot of features to electrical systems indeed.
Yup, really want an XOR so I can have a light or door that can be controlled by multiple switches
Matt115
New member
honestly kinetic traps could be problematic for cpu . and well you have them in orcs must die at least XD
Jost Amman
Well-known member
I completely disagree with that crap... maybe it's good for a mod, but 7D2D theme doesn't fit IMO.
I like the ragtag look and feel of everything we use to survive. NotD devs just add stuff because they can, it's becoming a high-tech sci-fi game instead of a survival struggle.
