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Matt115 said:
They  hurt my lovely m60! how they could something like that! .... i must talk with them. Very serious  < 80' action movies vibs >.

But srly this shovel thing make me sick . junk revolver cool. Junk smg cool.  shotgun? cool but rly what the .... is wrong with MP5 AND M60. I had bad day and this make it even worst XD
i love it!

the m60 then looked like you got it out of a Rambo Warehouse and slapped a knife on front. the game is set in the future and i don't think M60s are as common as in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

and the makeshift looks is. *Chef Kiss* Perfect

 

 
i love it!

the m60 then looked like you got it out of a Rambo Warehouse and slapped a knife on front. the game is set in the future and i don't think M60s are as common as in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

and the makeshift looks is. *Chef Kiss* Perfect

 
Well  on east guys still running with MG34 , MG42 , maxims , k98 , brens , polish scorpions etc and it still looks as new. Plis let 7DTD be something beetwen walking dead , dawn of living dead and l4d2 not something like rage or mad max  xd. Rambo could just put bipod scope and that's it . knife o hmg looks so XD i understand on ak 47 ( btw why in 7dtd is ak and there is no m14 , AR15 , scar , scorpion evo , AA12 , SAW , or just thompson but we have somehow AK47 XD ) hunting rifle even on shotgun but plis not on m60. IF ANYONE HERE ME PLIS PUT JUST M1 GARAND , M14 AND ANOTHER GOOD AMERICAN OLD CLASSIC STUFF.  

 

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Mr Lucky said:
How possible is it to see a functional water mechanic in the game? As in you cross a river, and it has real currents that will sweep you further down, or if zombies trail you, the river will sweep them away? If Mojang can do it, I KNOW you guys are capable, lol. Also, is there any thoughts on more variety of our weapon Optics/Scopes? Like, COD variety of attachments? Would be AMAZING with more gun modifications, especially the scopes, or alternate iron sights.
Gonna guess too much of a performance hit and too many labor hours to make something work that will be used once or maybe twice per game.

Scopes could probably be done easily.

 
Adam the Waster said:
I can't tell if this is bless or cursed!

SO ALL OF THEM!

i love that pipe SMG and the new M60!

LOOKS LIKE PURE HOMEMADE JUNK BUT I LOVE IT THE PIPE SMG IS GIVING ME SOME MP40 vibs!
ONE NIT PICK i have! is the Magnum. 

over all the other guns Even now with even the tier 3 guns having a Light makeshift look. the Magnum looks like it came Just out of the Factory!

same for the Pistol. 

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also i think the double barrel would look nice if it... well... Looked like this

sense its kinda odd to add a Sawed off Barrel... too a Sawed off shotgun

 
ONE NIT PICK i have! is the Magnum. 

over all the other guns Even now with even the tier 3 guns having a Light makeshift look. the Magnum looks like it came Just out of the Factory!

same for the Pistol. 

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also i think the double barrel would look nice if it... well... Looked like this

sense its kinda odd to add a Sawed off Barrel... too a Sawed off shotgun
Nah man, if we have a sawed off barrel for our sawed off shotgun we get an even shorter barrel.

I will say what I do hope that the Shotgun will get revamped with new visuals, cuz I only use the shotgun.

 
Adam the Waster said:
I feel like a flamethrower would fit in into the Demolition expert class 
thats in perception right? I dont see a flamethrower suiting perception but i dont think explosives suit it either... probably endurance or strength (because fire fighters are strong)

 
ONE NIT PICK i have! is the Magnum. 

over all the other guns Even now with even the tier 3 guns having a Light makeshift look. the Magnum looks like it came Just out of the Factory!

same for the Pistol. 

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also i think the double barrel would look nice if it... well... Looked like this

sense its kinda odd to add a Sawed off Barrel... too a Sawed off shotgun
Well this good :  a lot of guns would be in military bases shops bunkers etc so " fabric" guns looks more logical that  stuff from mad max

 
Nah man, if we have a sawed off barrel for our sawed off shotgun we get an even shorter barrel.

I will say what I do hope that the Shotgun will get revamped with new visuals, cuz I only use the shotgun.
thats the point. that would look stupid 
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Well this good :  a lot of guns would be in military bases shops bunkers etc so " fabric" guns looks more logical that  stuff from mad max
ture but to fit in the theme with every other gun,

at least add a bit of rust, maybe some Tape, wooden grip, etc

 
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thats the point. that would look stupid 
This guns looks so good if they want to make game about killer who is trying make civil war in 1930 by kiling police politics etc  XD  but it not suit into 7dtd

thats the point. that would look stupid 


ture but to fit in the theme with every other gun,

at least add a bit of rust, maybe some Tape, wooden grip, etc
i don't think so : ak 47 pistol or normal shotgun can looks like  something created by surviviors bandits etc but autoshotgun , military sniper rifle or m60 should looks almost new as taken from secret military base - no rust etc just putted from  metal crate

 
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This guns looks so good if they want to make game about killer who is trying make civil war in 1930 by kiling police politics etc  XD  but it not suit into 7dtd

i don't think so : ak 47 pistol or normal shotgun can looks like  something created by surviviors bandits etc but autoshotgun , military sniper rifle or m60 should looks almost new as taken from secret military base - no rust etc just putted from  metal crate
not really. the autoshot gun has Tape, same for the sniper

 

Auto shotgun has tape, a Spring Stock and wood
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Sniper has some crude metalwork, tape, wood, and a crappy stock!
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TAR has a Makeshift stock, rusty metal, and cloth 
 

 
Well i'm so sad because 7DTD in my opinion going into something like Zombieland . Before it looks more like dawn of the dead or 27 days later . Now it looks less serious. Well i fell kinda dissaponted - when 7dtd was put on steam it looks more " grimdark realistic minecraft focused on zombie ". Now it's looks more like far cry new dawn" it is post apo but colourfull and cool" . I know they can do what they want it is their game but well i can say what i thing about it. I have this same problem with cod. Zombie on WAW were more "serious, kinda creepy " scientist stuff - 115 is source of energy for zombies guns etd but in future games it changes on "multiverse magic stuff" . This models of guns looks rly good i see someone was working hard on this but it dont's suit in my opinion to 7dtd more into rage

 
Well i'm so sad because 7DTD in my opinion going into something like Zombieland . Before it looks more like dawn of the dead or 27 days later . Now it looks less serious. Well i fell kinda dissaponted - when 7dtd was put on steam it looks more " grimdark realistic minecraft focused on zombie ". Now it's looks more like far cry new dawn" it is post apo but colourfull and cool" . I know they can do what they want it is their game but well i can say what i thing about it. I have this same problem with cod. Zombie on WAW were more "serious, kinda creepy " scientist stuff - 115 is source of energy for zombies guns etd but in future games it changes on "multiverse magic stuff" . This models of guns looks rly good i see someone was working hard on this but it dont's suit in my opinion to 7dtd more into rage
i would not say that. the guns just have a theme now, and don't look like they where made right out of the Factory

 
not really. the autoshot gun has Tape, same for the sniper

 

Auto shotgun has tape, a Spring Stock and wood


Sniper has some crude metalwork, tape, wood, and a crappy stock!

TAR has a Makeshift stock, rusty metal, and cloth 
 


i would not say that. the guns just have a theme now, and don't look like they where made right out of the Factory
Well i was talking about how should sniper and auto looks like - new stuff from military warehouse.  Well everything in my opinion have a some "influnce " on setting. COD WW2 in first mission - beach , everywhere dead bodies , cuted arms, screams etc and you find ppsh in hands of dead german soldiers and it started to be ruined . Small detail but  it can kill "vibs". So ok - smg , pistolet and shotgun suited but magnum sniper , m60 and auto should looks as new "standard" stuff

Btw TFP doing good job and  appreciate it but i just don't agree with their decide how they are changing setting. Ofc they can do what do want because they are doing this game .

 
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We will see....
you assume that there already is an unbreakable release day/date that he just doesn't want to tell.

Consider that game developers can't see into the future, and that many things can still happen that may cause a delay, even if there is a definite timeline today.

In fact, it is absolutely unpredictable how many weeks and months it will take, and whatever outcome there will be, whether your "reading" turns out to be right or wrong,

it will be an absolute fluke.

 
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What about the new screamer skin?


Keep expectations in line with what was said, “better water (and I think better) water flow” or something similar.

Don’t expect tides or floods or water that washes building and zombies away.

Maybe expect a waterfall

Maybe expect water to drain out of a water tank that was broken.

you assume that there already is an unbreakable release day/date that he just doesn't want to tell.

Consider that game developers can't see into the future, and that many things can still happen that may cause a delay, even if there is a definite timeline today.

In fact, it is absolutely unpredictable how many weeks and months it will take, and whatever outcome there will be, whether your "reading" turns out to be right or wrong,

it will be an absolute fluke.


Of course it is predictable, one knows your staff levels and man hours available. Yes unexpected things may happen but that is why there is a range.

He gave an estimate with the answer, I have seen things like this happen all the time.

We will see.

 
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