PC A20 Developer Diary Discussions

[BobbyLee298]

*cowboy mode activate*

is this a Marksman or assault?
@madmole
 

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Gotta be marksman, i wander if its a single shot, because i dont see a side loader door on it. Unless its mag fed but that would be odd, i can dig this if its a single shot and the bolt action gets a internal mag

 

[hiemfire]

*cowboy mode activate*

is this a Marksman or assault?
@madmole
 

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Looks like you found the pipe rifle concept. I'm curious if it loads from the left or bottom since it looks like there is a spring where the loading gate would be if it was loaded from the right. Might be a single shot too, even with the mag tube in the image.

 

[toores]

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[Adam the Waster]

Looks like you found the pipe rifle concept. I'm curious if it loads from the left or bottom since it looks like there is a spring where the loading gate would be if it was loaded from the right. Might be a single shot too, even with the mag tube in the image.

the reason why i say it could be the AR class is due to the way you can shoot Leveraction. idk what its called 

kinda like in Red dead. 


ether way! it looks nice i would uses it as a day 1000 main weapon

 

[SnowDog1942]

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Pretty sure its their new way of releasing info, dev streams.  Oh well.

 

[Astronomical]

*cowboy mode activate*

is this a Marksman or assault?
@madmole
 

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The new primitive rifle model looks awesome! Glad they finally went with something lever action.

That being said, kinda sad to waste a sweet lever action model on a single shot primitive rifle. It's more common that this type of rifle would have an internal magazine. Personally I think it would be cooler to see the current hunting rifle end up as the primitive weapon and this new model tier 1.

 

[beerfly]

That can of chilli is on spot. Fantastic model, wish we could know more about it, like what damage it could do. 

Another good one Pimps, thanks ! 

Pretty sure its their new way of releasing info, dev streams.  Oh well.

And we want a new one !

Also, soon  

 

[hiemfire]

the reason why i say it could be the AR class is due to the way you can shoot Leveraction. idk what its called

Still have to do more than just squeeze the trigger and hold it squeezed to get it to fire unlike all 3 weapons currently affected by the Machine Gunner perk. The Marksman Rifle and Sniper Rifle both require less input from the firer than a lever or bolt action, and both of them are Dead Eye.

 

[Treb]

Of course knowing and planning for this internal mechanism is akin to save scumming. Don't complain that the game is too easy for you while using those tricks. There are legitimate ways to get iron tools early.

I mean, you can technically have steel tools a few days in if you get all the right schematic (forge, workbench, crucible and steel tool). And sometime you're at GS100+ and haven't found the needed schematics.

In my current game, I found my first crucible (the item, not even the schematic) on day 38 and since day 28 I was scouring aggressively for it, going to all the 7-8 traders I had located at every restock and looting every crack a book/working stiff related places I could find on the map.

Felt great when I found it in a fire station next to the trader I was waiting for to open as I was traveling during the night. Now I just need to find the auger schematic so I can upgrade my level 1 auger

Also, auto shotgun would be nice, but I have quite a few shotgun messiah place to raid that were left alone during my crucible quest.

 

[MechanicalLens]

I mean, you can technically have steel tools a few days in if you get all the right schematic (forge, workbench, crucible and steel tool). And sometime you're at GS100+ and haven't found the needed schematics.

In my current game, I found my first crucible (the item, not even the schematic) on day 38 and since day 28 I was scouring aggressively for it, going to all the 7-8 traders I had located at every restock and looting every crack a book/working stiff related places I could find on the map.

Felt great when I found it in a fire station next to the trader I was waiting for to open as I was traveling during the night. Now I just need to find the auger schematic so I can upgrade my level 1 auger

Also, auto shotgun would be nice, but I have quite a few shotgun messiah place to raid that were left alone during my crucible quest.

Or you can just quest from traders.  For a T2 buried supplies I got to choose a T5 steel pickaxe as a reward.

 

[Treb]

Or you can just quest from traders.  For a T2 buried supplies I got to choose a T5 steel pickaxe as a reward.

I got all my current steel tool from rewards/looting too. I could have crafted them earlier if I had the crucible though (or went around and dismantled every single street lamp light on the map). 

RNG gotta RNG though. One time I found the crucible schematic on day 1 or so.

 

[MechanicalLens]

I got all my current steel tool from rewards/looting too. I could have crafted them earlier if I had the crucible though (or went around and dismantled every single street lamp light on the map). 

RNG gotta RNG though. One time I found the crucible schematic on day 1 or so.

I would honestly stop using traders if I could, but the temptation of checking their inventories, and the thought of tossing away weapon after weapon, tool after tool, only because I didn't need them for anything other than coin... I could never stomach it.

On the other hand though, after finishing my Fortitude world on day 76 I've restarted about a dozen times since, never making it past day 2 or 3 for whatever reason. Can't put a finger on it though...

 

[Arma Rex]

*cowboy mode activate*

is this a Marksman or assault?
@madmole
 

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Most likely perception build. Assault is going to be fully-automatic. Wonder how they'll handle that, maybe take designs from Brazilian scrap submachine guns.

 

[Pichii]

Are bandits, drones, or any new entities going to make an appearance?

Bandits please.
I NEED ai that wants to shoot me back.
Whole new level of git gud please.

 

[Blake_]

Bandits please.
I NEED ai that wants to shoot me back.
Whole new level of git gud please.

It has been confirmed that there will be no bandits in Alpha 20. They are doing (among dozens of  new POI, loot, quest and RWG changes) new weapons, brand new armour system and special Zombies that bring more quality and variety to gameplay, and that takes until summer or so with their team of 40 devs. Bandits are probably an alpha 22 feature , but there's a good chance that the first iteration (aka basic functionality) comes online in alpha 21. 

Did I mention that they are letting ALL the common Zds crawl through one meter holes ? and the new door changes ? shape menu system ? Those things take a good bunch of weeks to develop so I'm unsure if we're going to see ALL of them in A20. I would be surprised if they pulled it off before July though.

We've been waiting 7 years for npcs, but if good stuff keeps coming like this, I can definitely wait a couple more.

 

[BFT2020]

It has been confirmed that there will be no bandits in Alpha 20. They are doing (among dozens of  new POI, loot, quest and RWG changes) new weapons, brand new armour system and special Zombies that bring more quality and variety to gameplay, and that takes until summer or so with their team of 40 devs.

Are they still trying to get the kinks out of the drone in hopes of an A21 release?

 

[Blake_]

Are they still trying to get the kinks out of the drone in hopes of an A21 release?

They said they hope to release the drone in a20, yes.

In the video they showed, it worked just fine for single player, but I believe it was too much of a bug pile on the multiplayer side to release it in a19.

 

[Roland]

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What's up with the dead forums?

Everyone is playing!

We broke all our records this past week with 39k concurrent players. 

 

[archergod]

They said they hope to release the drone in a20, yes.

In the video they showed, it worked just fine for single player, but I believe it was too much of a bug pile on the multiplayer side to release it in a19.

Maybe it is time they release some item for single player only and remove it from multiplayer?

 

[Jost Amman]

Maybe it is time they release some item for single player only and remove it from multiplayer?

I'd remove multiplayer entirely... what do you need friends for when you have NPCs?  :caked: