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TomGun42 said:
love this mod, only wish you were able to have the higher steel leveled blocks and have some form of polish to upgrade the steel (server side of course), great work
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Hello Tom! Thanks for the feedback. The older game version mechanic of steel to stainless steel is indeed still in the files. However, I tend to side on not bringing it back. I can be convinced, but let me tell you my thoughts about why I haven't done it.

  • First, if you want the look, you can always paint it. In my servers, I make the dev paint brush buildable, so people can paint without needing paint.
  • Second, the current mechanic, when the steel block breaks, it turns into the reinforced concrete. I personally felt that was plenty strong for a block.
  • Third, the devs have managed to reduce the upgrade path significantly, and I really liked that, so adding another block may be counterproductive.
  • And finally Fourth, Steel is already expensive, and I like not requiring more resources to get the maxed block.
If you have further thoughts/reasonings, please share. The best mods are the ones that utilize input from players. 🙂

 
Thank you for replying.

Fun pimps haven't exactly done a great job of late game/high game state play. You get to a certain point and horde nights are just a breeze and boring. That's where some modders and new modders have brought in tougher zombies (and in my case I've made zombies doing massive damage) to make late game still fun. Steel blocks are ok but don't last too long when the "boss" zombies come out to play. 

There is a mod out there for the st steel however because of all the extra pieces you provide it doesn't like it. Your mod is awesome, no denying that and I'd expect any server that has bigger stronger zombies would like to have stronger blocks but they require alot of resources to make. This in turn makes higher gamestate still worth playing instead of getting bored.

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Ok, I went a little crazy. All 153 blocks in my mod can now be upgraded to Stainless Steel.... utilizing 10 of the polish... They each even downgrade correctly to R-Concrete. 

But the big question is.... keep Polish available the way it was back in A16? Only through traders/loot? Or to make it craftable. That is the big question now. Thoughts? 

 
I was attempting to make my own keeping it server side but alas because it's not part of your mod it wasn't working right. I think it would be a great step to make players go out and get the resources instead of just using more steel.

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I'd say make it craftable but add things like silver into it, make the player work hard to get it, play the long game

 
Good day Riles

A small problem with update 1.05 .. I went into my game after updating mod from 1.04 to 1.05 and lost some stuff .. biggest issue was stairs that were upgraded. Had to move a door because stairs had vanished or something.

2 pictures attached .. hoping it explains the " or something " part. ( I could Not put the stairs back in the same spot ) thank goodness I had room on the inside to move the door and stairs back 1 block.

I  "Could"  place a frame down or even a solid block .. but there was no way to get the stairs to go back. Must have had something to do with all the changes within the mod. But All is good, maybe a bit to much was added.

Take Care and Be Safe ... the Old Gamer .. 😌

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gpcstargate said:
A small problem with update 1.05
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Hello! Good catch! I uh..... meant to post a warning about applying this patch to an existing save. There might be another way to "fix it" in game, but so far what I have found to do is to go into God Mode, and then position myself inside the terrain/walls, and "rebuild" my blocks where it wouldn't let me. It seems to do with blocks that had railings in which this would happen.  I believe because I "reorganized" the xml file and the order of the blocks changed is why this occurred. Thanks for catching this! Sorry for the confusion!

 
Riles said:
Ok, I went a little crazy. All 153 blocks in my mod can now be upgraded to Stainless Steel.... utilizing 10 of the polish... They each even downgrade correctly to R-Concrete. 

But the big question is.... keep Polish available the way it was back in A16? Only through traders/loot? Or to make it craftable. That is the big question now. Thoughts? 
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Hey Riles, any thing I can help with sorting out the st steel? (you know way more than me but im trying)

 
TomGun42 said:
I'd say make it craftable but add things like silver into it, make the player work hard to get it, play the long game
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Ok, here is what I ended up doing. But first, thanks for the offers and help! After looking at the old system and looking up actual ingredients for polishing steel.... lol.  This is what I did.

1. It takes 1 bottle of Steel Polish to upgrade a Steel Block to a Stainless Steel Block.

2. You can craft it only after finding the schematic... which is available where ever "rare books/mods/schematics" is available in the game.

3. You can find polish in loot that has "rare ores" "air drop" "broken chem stations" "some rare working stiff boxes" etc. But keyword is you "can" find. Just not often and not a lot.

4. To craft it, after looking a lot of crap up and staring at all the options, I came up with this:

     A. You make 10 at a time.

     B. Requires 2 Awesome Sauce, 5 Recogs, 10 gunpowder, 10 oil, and 10 animal fat.

            ....This means, 10 acids, and 10 honeys as the "rarer" ingredients.

Complicated to explain, but not too complicated in action.... maybe.

Thoughts?

 
Sounds perfect 👍🏻 keeps the player grinding and searching, will fit in our server perfectly. I sent you a pm, your welcome to pop by. Whens the release? Oh one of my players found an icon wrong or something, apparently rebar icon is wood frame although when placed it's rebar.

 
TomGun42 said:
Sounds perfect 👍🏻 keeps the player grinding and searching, will fit in our server perfectly. I sent you a pm, your welcome to pop by. Whens the release? Oh one of my players found an icon wrong or something, apparently rebar icon is wood frame although when placed it's rebar.
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Yeah, when you go to the multi-shape option to change shapes of the rebar frame, the rebar icons show as solid wood blocks of the same shape (Except ramp and square block, which are correct), but place and show in game as rebar frames.  Its not a huge thing, but can be a little disconcerting at first glance lol

 
FighterAce124 said:
Yeah, when you go to the multi-shape option to change shapes of the rebar frame, the rebar icons show as solid wood blocks of the same shape (Except ramp and square block, which are correct), but place and show in game as rebar frames.  Its not a huge thing, but can be a little disconcerting at first glance lol
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Yeah, the icons for the added shapes which don't exist can't be added in a server-side only mod. That's why the colour tint is there, to colour code wood frame / rebar frame / wet concrete etc.

Unfortunately for the shapes like window arches, the icon only exists in 'brick' form and there's no way to display it as a frame icon.

 
Good Day Riles

Hope you are doing well

I have found another small issue with the new shapes .. On the Bars that we make in the inventory as wood  ( Center bars will not go diagonally ) .. had to go into CM and get the center bars from there, I use them on corners 90% of the time, depending on what I'm building.

Hopefully you can make out the corners .. I can get a better picture if needed.

Thanks again and as always Be Safe ... the Old Gamer .. 😌

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