You're not making a lot of sense here
The item is pointless to use because its rare and wont last....
Isn't that a balance issue? What was the recipe you used? What about the trade-off between spending the perk points to max out STR or INT or whichever you required in your mod vs using those points for other things? (I am assuming Q6 required max stat and max specific perk.) I have not tried to mod it in myself; in your opinion, would it be impossible to balance it appropriately?
I dont remember the specific recipe, but it seemed at the time, a logical progression from the previous quality recipes. It did require max stat and max perk.
I actually prefer crafting.... there is something cool, to me, about wearing and using items that I gathered the parts for and assembled. I guess you're right and its a balance issue.... I suppose it would be possible to make Q6 crafting so difficult that you could craft them with about the same frequency that you would loot them. In that case, you'd keep the same level of reward, but I haven't got any ideas on how to do that other than add a rare part you have to loot..... and at that point, whats the difference between crafting and looting?
Sure getting to that point is quite a chore, but once you have that you can make unlimited quantities of Q6 shotguns (resources permitting).... personally, I don't think that's a good thing for the game.
In a world without degradation that is not a problem. You simply wont do that.
Well true, not for something like a shotgun. But for skills that give you multiple items, like mining or heavy armor, you could craft a whole suite of Q6 items once you unlock it. Not to mention multiplayer where one person could outfit an entire team.
As opposed to making endless Q5 examples.
Sure not much, but there is a difference. I guess it comes down to personal preference, but for me, I didn't like it when I enabled Q6 crafting. I found it really devalued Q6 items.
With the current loot progress, you can often craft the items in Q5 before you find them. So you have a working auger that is only a little bit worse than the one you just found. But you can always recraft the Q5 auger as long as you have enough parts.
I still don't get your point.... why would you use it? Why wouldn't you? It would last twice as long as a Q5 auger (half the time as a Q6 and half the time after it degraded to Q5) and still have an extra mod slot, thats why you should use it. To be fair, an auger (or any tool) really isn't a great example since, unlike a weapon, there is no reason to save it for something.
I would not want to use it because I would always feel that I was wasting this item. That the modslots remain unchanged is the way you imagine it. I assume that the modslot would be dropped because currently quality dictates the number of modslots.
You've obviously never dug a big pit down to the bedrock. Grand Spartan has done that in his current stream series and he too has been looking for a Q6 Auger for a long time and his reaction was intense when he finally found one.
Eventually, I will be able to craft Q5 items. So it is not the same as a Q6 item. This one I cannot craft.
I think the "parts" mechanic holds the key to balance. Maybe it takes 2x or 3x the parts to make a Q6 item because you have to sort through the pile of parts to find the one unblemished part suitable for a top-quality build. And maybe instead of 25 steel it's 50 because you have to refine impurities at each step and it takes more raw resource to do that. So "expensive" but not "stupidly out of line with Q5" expensive. And still reliant on looting/purchasing to get enough parts.
Man I suck. I have never once gotten all 7 books of any tree. But I've rarely played past about day 60 nor above level 100-ish. I wonder what the appropriate day/level is to be able to craft Q6, if such a thing existed?
Well since the system doesnt and may never exist, neither of knows how it would work. I just don't understand how using a Q6 item can somehow be considered "wasting" it
Bad assumption, I have dug many pits to bedrock.... I've used augers and steel picks to do so
I know how the old degradation system back in A15/A16 worked and how it could be counteracted. But back then there were no mod slots, no random stats and the items where assembled from parts didn't degrade when you repaired them. When for example my pickaxe was degraded after several repairs I combined it with a new pickaxe and it had its full quality again.
Just think of the Q6 item as old wine. You don't just drink it when you're thirsty. That would be a waste. Do you understand now?
And you probably used the best tool you had available which would be the Q6 auger in the box for example.
I rather think that our ideas of how this would be implemented are very different. You're assuming a moderate implementation. I'm assuming a worst case scenario.
At least you're admitting that as a player you would hate it. I am not a game developer. Therefore I cannot say what makes a good game or not. I only express my opinion as a player.
Fine with me, too. I just wanted to give my opinion and voice my concerns.
Oh, I know FOV motion sickness Is a real thing. That’s not what I was making fun of.....
<sigh> Okay fine. My contention is only that it could be successfully balanced. I don't want to go back and forth about any specific numbers. Let's agree to disagree.
