Jost Amman
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Something like this?So no more "The Buss"? RiP...hopefully its replacement will be just as fun.
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MechanicalLens
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@madmole Bravo, bravo. The end-game sniper build is exactly the way I envisioned it - brutal, precise, deadly, merciless. I spawned in some levels and gear to take me to an end-game perception build - testing the waters, if you will - and I thoroughly enjoyed what I had experienced. 
The 5-minute long video below shows one such example if you'd be interested in checking it out for yourself.
(Sniper builds during horde night are still an unknown quantity however.)
The 5-minute long video below shows one such example if you'd be interested in checking it out for yourself.(Sniper builds during horde night are still an unknown quantity however.)
Adam the Waster
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Laz Man
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Looks unsafe to use...I already see the immersion mods giving it a 15% chance to explode in your face lol.Something like this?
Jost Amman
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Amanitasec
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lord_ahriman
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Thanks for sharing it. I built a sniper horde defense in A18, but it only worked well mid game, but it looks like endgame will be fun this time. I have something in mind, however I'm gonna wait for stable because it will take a long time to build it and I don't want to take any risks.34 minutes ago, MechanicalLens said:
@madmole Bravo, bravo. The end-game sniper build is exactly the way I envisioned it - brutal, precise, deadly, merciless. I spawned in some levels and gear to take me to an end-game perception build - testing the waters, if you will - and I thoroughly enjoyed what I had experienced.
(Sniper builds during horde night are still an unknown quantity however.)
Perlin_Worm
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The Blunderbuss and it’s generic gunpowder ammo are perfect as implemented in a19. Props! Why do we need yet another tier of firearms with these pipe guns? What gap does it fill?
Early level is mostly about melee and it is refreshing. IMO, don’t mess with a winning formula.
Increasing more tiers and expanding the loot tables will put the game in the position where many will desire to start a new map before ever seeing the highest tier weapons.
Early level is mostly about melee and it is refreshing. IMO, don’t mess with a winning formula.
Increasing more tiers and expanding the loot tables will put the game in the position where many will desire to start a new map before ever seeing the highest tier weapons.
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MechanicalLens
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Blueberry bushes got an... erm... upgrade? 
Khalagar
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Whoa now, you say I exaggerate too much lol. You can kill a grown bull elephant with a .22lr, they are really under estimated. There's a ton of penetration tests on youtube, you can drill right through a car door, a sheet of plywood wrapped in several layers of denim, out the other side of the plywood and denim, then through the other car door too
There are lots of tests like that, people shoot through cast iron skillets with them too
I know a lot of rednecks in my area who kill deer with .22lr, it's just not legal because it's cruel because it takes them longer to die if you don't hit a major organ. You could drop a hippo or elephant dead in it's tracks with a good shot though.
In real life, .22lr is bar none, THE best zombie gun because it's quiet and you can carry 10,000 rounds easily
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Laz Man
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There not increasing tiers, just fleshing out t0. I feel that the blunderbuss made a huge comeback in A19. The only problem is it's the players only ranged option in that tier aside from the prim bow.
They are also going to improve the t0 experience with more ranged variety and unifying ammo.
Its alot better then leaving it alone the way it is or removing it entirely....
Jugginator
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Considering the largest recorded animal kill (single shot) was a grizzly bear I think you're exaggerating a little bit lol. An elephant was reported killed by one, but it took several shots. But yeah, the point Joel's making is if we add all this extra "flavor" gunnery into the game with different ammo types, not only does that add clutter to the game (more memory etc.), but it hogs up loot tables too.
pregnable
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You still thinking about getting rid of the destructible ground?
Sounded like a good idea for the second game cause few people would honestly miss it and it would make it more pvp friendly along with the other gains.
Blake_
Captain Obvious
Do "special infected" include the spider, cop, demolisher and screamer zds ?We want to add a loot progression speed, so if you want it to take months to reach t3 and have extended primitive stage you can do that, independent of zombie game stage.
Special infected will spice it up too.
Tank zombies
Will they be the only type of zd to drop legendary stuff like the "star" enemies in Fallout 4?
I like the "pipe" stuff idea. I am not concerned about balance if you are the one doing it.
From the pipe gun list MM put out
.44 ammo pipe weapon was missing.
Currently only two weapons use it.
Magnum and vulture.
Thinking a single shot pipe cannon
that uses .44 could have potential
as I imagine the pipe pistol could be
a 1-5 shot or 1-3 shot. Something like that. It’s 9mm so wouldn’t be as deadly as one shot from a .44 mag round.
Btw. Just gonna put this out there.
The magnum revolver is personally my favorite weapon in game. Still favoring it over the vulture. Glad to see it got a sweet update to it reload animate. Really sick looking (a good thing) should only be done in a game. You should never do that IRL
.44 ammo pipe weapon was missing.
Currently only two weapons use it.
Magnum and vulture.
Thinking a single shot pipe cannon
that uses .44 could have potential
as I imagine the pipe pistol could be
a 1-5 shot or 1-3 shot. Something like that. It’s 9mm so wouldn’t be as deadly as one shot from a .44 mag round.
Btw. Just gonna put this out there.
The magnum revolver is personally my favorite weapon in game. Still favoring it over the vulture. Glad to see it got a sweet update to it reload animate. Really sick looking (a good thing) should only be done in a game. You should never do that IRL
Khalagar
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Just depends on shot placement. An eye shot or shot to the heart would absolutely drop one. The one killed by 22lr was shot 4 iirc times but it doesn't mean a single well placed shot wouldn't have done it, it was just poachers being cruel and shooting it a few times before it died
There's a .22lr piercing through 20 layers of denim + a phonebook easily, even the 40 layers of denim didn't stop it punching right through the phonebook. Elephant hide is fairly thick, but it's not *that* thick it's less than inch usually even in the thickest spots. They aren't magic lol, they are just biological animals and the laws of physics are very hard to ignore. Depending on where you hit it, the elephant would definitely drop on the spot
I mean, I don't really think they should be added either, they'd either be OP as crap if they were accurate or totally useless if they weren't accurate to real life. I just don't like the dangerous mentality people have that .22lr are just bb guns lol. You could do a LOT of damage really quickly with a .22lr even at long range
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Thecolours
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Perlin_Worm
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I get what you are saying about simply rounding out T0, but isn’t this going to put us back in the predicament where we are swimming g in guns on day 1? Isn’t this going to put bows in a bad way yet again early on?
I felt the blunderbuss an bows were in good place as early ranged weapons and enjoyed being mostly reliant on melee for the first few days. It was different and a rewarding challenge.
Adam the Waster
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you want terminators? because this is how you get terminators!
i mean! poor poachers in Africa used makeshift guns that would make pipe guns from fallout look like factory made goods! and cavemen killed mammoths with Sharp sticks, rocks and clubs!
Moral of the story: elephants are weak!
hiemfire
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.... Bull. The density of the bone between the eye and the brain is thick enough to stop a .22 lr and there is allot more than just hide between the heart and the surface of the chest. Are you sure you aren't conflating .22 mag (rimfire or centerfire) with .22 lr?
Fair. They aren't just like bb guns and MM didn't say they were.
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