PC Alpha 19 Seed Thread

SylenThunder

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Time to share your seeds again!

Please post
Seed name : 
Biome adjustment settings : 
Screenshot : 
Number of traders if known : 

Please not that this thread is NOT for discussion of Nitrogen. This is for seeds using the in-game RWG mixer.
 
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*** SEEDS FOR Alpha 19.0 Stable ***

Huh... I'd have to spend a lot of time here to do this. I have about 200 different seeds for alpha 19 experimental, half 4k and half 8k. I have previews from all of them publicly available here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljjksykyenytm3e/AAAh0mf_CBnXW92eVl5i-EF1a?dl=0

To generate and analyse these seeds I use scripts that are freely available here: https://github.com/dcsobral/seedGen

All my 8k seeds have 10 traders, all my 4k seeds have 5 traders. To make it easy to figure out what seed you find interesting, I've added some of my analysis to a Google Spreadsheet anyone can look at. You can see the number of prefabs in the map, the number of unique prefabs, and the number of unique prefabs that are tier 4, tier 5, stores, skyscrapers or in my top 7 and top 15 lists. Once you find a seed you like, go to the drop link above, download the zip file, and you'll find a map preview there. Traders are marked in the map previews with pinkish outlines, though you might have to zoom in to spot it.

The spreadsheet is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1abSNz0_rsoDd-3AVp6SzxY-AF7eVjMfVNhIXN3X20/edit?usp=sharing

I also have a thumbnail preview of all seeds, with color coded buildings. Legend for the seed previews here: https://imgur.com/m1FatgC

Thumbnails for all size 4096 seeds (100 per image): 

https://imgur.com/T9iIN1b

https://imgur.com/e3y0NAd

https://imgur.com/pK0IceU

The best size 4096 seeds I've found are:

Seed name: High-speedBuchan

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/5JeVApF

Pro: Highest in prefab variety, top 15 and stores.

Con: No skyscraper. No Red Mesa. Two cities disconnected from the others (but very close).

Special Feature: Huge city mostly in the desert with two traders.

Seed name: HepaticPhaedra

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/sZD1uZZ

Pro: Highest in top 7. Second on top 15. High on stores, tiers 4 & 5.  Crack a Book skyscraper.

Con: Low variety. No Red Mesa. Extremely poor interconnecting roads. Too much on wasteland.

Special Feature: One big city mostly in the wasteland, one city entirely in the wasteland, and one city two thirds in the wasteland.

Seed name: GeodeticCorrosiveness

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/OL6ggyJ

Pro: Highest in tiers 4 & 5. Dishong skyscraper.

Con: Middling (though not bottom) in other criteria. No Red Mesa. No Electronics stores. Poor interconnecting roads.

Special Feature: Huge city mostly in the snow. Two cities in the desert. One city in the burnt forest.

Seed name: FeministCellarer

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/Ec0QH8s

Pro: Dishong and Crack a Book skyscrapers. High on prefab variety.

Con: No Red Mesa. No Books stores. No Gun stores. Not a lot of real estate in the forest.

Special Feature: Huge city in the wasteland. Big city half wasteland, half snow. Big city in the burnt forest. 

Thumbnail for size 8192 seeds (100 per image):

https://imgur.com/Rs0RdGi

https://imgur.com/dDbVORd

https://imgur.com/4FsEMn3

Best size 8192 seeds:

Seed name: ClumsiestAbeles

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/fS4fLQn

Pro: All top 7 prefabs, tied first on top 15 and tiers 4&5 prefabs, second on stores, tied second on variety. Two Crack a Book skyscrapers.

Con: One disconnected city. No good cluster of cities.

Special Feature: Two big cities on the desert plus another, one big city on burnt forest, three cities on wasteland, two on snow.

Seed name: StriateElizabethans

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/iikJDap

Pro: First in stores, tied first in top 15, second in top 7, high in variety. Crack a Book skyscraper.

Con: Missing hospital, missing red mesa. Two unconnected cities.

Special Feature: One big city in the wasteland, one big city half wasteland/half snow. One big city in the snow. One huge city in the desert.

Seed name: HebephrenicDecimalization

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/EVjbk1v

Pro: Tied second in top 7, third in top 15 and stores. Only one prefab less than the highest seeds in tiers 4&5. Dishong and Crack a Book skyscrapers.

Con: No red mesa, no high school, missing one of the gun stores. Too much urban area in the wasteland, too little in the forest. One disconnected city.

Special Feature: One huge and one big city in the desert. One huge city almost entirely in the wasteland, plus a few others.

 
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That is absolutely amazing, it's super rare to see a breakdown of POIs. Thanks you, mysterious benefactor.

Can I ask, what are your top 15/7 prefabs? 
(as of b177)

Top 7:

bombshelter_01

church_01
installation_red_mesa
skyscraper_02
store_book_01
store_book_02
store_gun_02

Top 15:

bombshelter_01

church_01
installation_red_mesa
skyscraper_02
store_autoparts_01
store_book_01
store_book_02
store_clothing_02
store_electronics_01
store_electronics_02
store_hardware_01
store_hardware_02
store_grocery_02
store_gun_01
store_gun_02

You can see how I favor book places heavily with my top 7. :)

 
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Top 7:

church_01
installation_red_mesa
skyscraper_02
store_book_01
store_book_02
store_grocery_02
store_gun_02

Top 15:

church_01
installation_red_mesa
skyscraper_02
store_autoparts_01
store_book_01
store_book_02
store_clothing_01
store_clothing_02
store_electronics_01
store_electronics_02
store_hardware_01
store_hardware_02
store_grocery_02
store_gun_01
store_gun_02

You can see how I favor book places heavily with my top 7. :)
Excellent, gonna get me loads of those sweet sweet books. 

*Laughs in Cartography*

 
Generated in b163 all seem to be forest with edges being other biomes. (Note: Tudor_01 is one of my favorite POIs hense why I check to make sure there is one.., also if you happen to be looking for books, it has a good size library on it's third floor.) Traders marked in images. Care of map renderer: https://kui.github.io/7dtd-map/

FirstPlayA19: "New Bativa Valley" as with most seeds I have tried, Giant forest in middle with other biomes bordering the edges. East is desert, SE is Snow, SW is Ruin and W+N are burnt.
4 Tudor_01, 1 Book store, 10 Traders, 0 Skyscrapers, 1 large church, 0 red mesa
https://imgur.com/deS8179

Nameloc: "South Nogegi County" pretty close to same biome distribution as New Bative Valley.
0 Tudor_01, 1 Book store, 10 Traders, 1 Skyscraper (04 = construction), 2 large churches, 0 red mesa
https://imgur.com/nEzY5Ua

Dexterra: "Zuheju Territory" the biomes around the forest are at the 4 edges, E Desert, W Snow, S Ruin, N Burnt.
4 Tudor_01, 1 Book store, 10 Traders, 1 Skyscraper (03 = Negashi), 2 large churches, 0 red mesa
https://imgur.com/s9BT12Y

 
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Is this really how RWG works in A19?... like some weird island of forest and the other biomes in a circle around it? Always?

And it seems that in alot of the RWG maps there seems to be little to no spawning of real cities etc. in the other biomes.

So, there is no real need to go to any of the other biomes.

They have really taken weird steps in RGW... sad to see it...

 
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Forests are the "safe biome" now. You spawn in the forest (on Navezgane you also spawn in the burnt forest biome), forest is easier on hostile animals and zombie spawning, it has mild temperatures, etc. If forests weren't so predominant in the map, you'd end up with maps that have no forests, where the closest "forest" trader (the first trader) is far away, etc. It would, in essence, be a "hard" map. Nothing wrong with that, but we have to recognize that random world generation was not an alpha 19 priority. I'm happy that it works much better than alpha 17 and 18 rwg, and hopeful that more resources will be assigned to it on alpha 20.

AllPainful said:
Generated in b163 all seem to be forest with edges being other biomes. (Note: Tudor_01 is one of my favorite POIs hense why I check to make sure there is one...) Traders marked in images. Care of map renderer: https://kui.github.io/7dtd-map/

FirstPlayA19
Nameloc
Dexterra
Oh, these are the seed names. I didn't even see them until I went to edit the quote to remove extra stuff. I suggest you give them more emphasis in some way. Maybe make them bold? 

 
Is this really how RWG works in A19?... like some weird island of forest and the other biomes in a circle around it? Always?

And it seems that in alot of the RWG maps there seems to be little to no spawning of real cities etc. in the other biomes.

So, there is no real need to go to any of the other biomes.

They have really taken weird steps in RGW... sad to see it...
It's still a work in progress. On the internal build there was an option to adjust the size/dominance of each biome.

Here is an example I took of the map I made just prior to the streamer release.
624f14dda5615d1fc3be30806d82562e.png


If Pine forest were 1, then they would all be the same size. City layout would not have changed.

I don't know if the sliders will be in the final builds or not, but I sure hope so. It's a nice addition.

 
dcsobral said:
Huh... I'd have to spend a lot of time here to do this. I have about 200 different seeds for alpha 19 experimental, half 4k and half 8k. I have previews from all of them publicly available here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljjksykyenytm3e/AAAh0mf_CBnXW92eVl5i-EF1a?dl=0

I usually don't leave uncompressed previews in that folder, but I decided to leave my top seeds (4k and 8k) there, for ease of access.  All my 8k seeds have 10 traders, all my 4k seeds have 5 traders. To make it easy to figure out what seed you find interesting, I've added some of my analysis to a Google Spreadsheet anyone can look at. You can see the number of prefabs in the map, the number of unique prefabs, and the number of unique prefabs that are tier 4, tier 5, stores, skyscrapers or in my top 7 and top 15 lists. Once you find a seed you like, go to the drop link above, download the zip file, and you'll find a map preview there. Traders are marked in the map previews with pinkish outlines, though you might have to zoom in to spot it.

The spreadsheet is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1abSNz0_rsoDd-3AVp6SzxY-AF7eVjMfVNhIXN3X20/edit?usp=sharing

The best size 8192 seeds I've found are:

Seed name: SystematicArbutus

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/7vzG0iw

Pro: top on my "top" criteria

Con: Lots of big cities in the desert

Seed name: FierceCinerin

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/hLbBglL

Pro: top unique tier 4 and 5, second best on my "top" criteria

Con: one big disconnected city

Seed name: TuitionalMonck

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/uev7NcS

Pro: high on "top" criteria, high on variety, has a Dishong and a Crack a Book skyscraper

Con: a couple of small disconnected cities

Seed name: HipBastinadoes

Screenshot:  https://imgur.com/nctbmul

Pro: high unique tier 4 and 5 and variety, has a Higashi and a Crack a Book skyscraper

Con: low on stores and top criteria (because it's low on stores), too much stuff on wasteland

Seed name: AmbiguousCamphene

Screenshot:  https://imgur.com/Fim8wYs

Pro: top on stores and variety

Con: low on top 7, and unique tier 4 and 5, west cities disconnected from center and east cities

The best size 4096 seeds I've found are:

Seed name: PudgyPiggott

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/RuZLCXy

Pro: top on my "top" criteria, large variety of prefabs

Con: disconnected cities, large city on wasteland

Seed name: StirringEmbezzlements

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/C3dD12i

Pro: top unique tier 4 and 5, second best on my "top" criteria

Con: disconnected cities, mid-level variety

Seed name: IrreversibleConsiderance

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/XRqqdgl

Pro: high on "top" criteria, has a Crack a Book skyscraper, road connects all cities

Con: low on stores, low on variety

Seed name: RecoveredAmides

Screenshothttps://imgur.com/J8hmPX9

Pro: top in variety, high on tier 4 and 5, huge cities

Con: low on "top" criteria, mid-level on stores. disconnected cities
So we set up a server using the 8k seed "SystematicArbutus" and we're 11 days in and i just realized that the map doesnt match the one that you posted. Ours looks like it's more of a 4k map and we just have a ton of water to the north and to the east. We checked the files and it's definitely an 8k map... any ideas as to why this happened?? D :   we'll probably have to remake the server but is there anything we can do to make sure this doesnt happen again?

 
So we set up a server using the 8k seed "SystematicArbutus" and we're 11 days in and i just realized that the map doesnt match the one that you posted. Ours looks like it's more of a 4k map and we just have a ton of water to the north and to the east. We checked the files and it's definitely an 8k map... any ideas as to why this happened?? D :   we'll probably have to remake the server but is there anything we can do to make sure this doesnt happen again?
Might be a bug generating on the server.  They generating it locally then copying the world to the server instead.

 
So we set up a server using the 8k seed "SystematicArbutus" and we're 11 days in and i just realized that the map doesnt match the one that you posted. Ours looks like it's more of a 4k map and we just have a ton of water to the north and to the east. We checked the files and it's definitely an 8k map... any ideas as to why this happened?? D :   we'll probably have to remake the server but is there anything we can do to make sure this doesnt happen again?
On alpha 18, maps that were generated on the server used alpha 17 code instead of alpha 18 code, so they were rather different. I don't know if that is still the case with alpha 19, but I guess it is since SP generated maps use GPU. It was recommended in the past to generate the map locally, then copy the generated map to the server. 

 
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To further extrapolate the previous post (it sounded good so I tried it) Generated in b169

blackjack: "North Kewohe Moutnains" Burn forest west and north, desert east, wasteland SW, Snow SE3 Tudor_01, 3 Book store, 10 Traders, 2 Skyscraper (02 = Crack-a-book, 03 = Higashi), 2 large churches, 0 red mesa, 3 electronic stores
Image: https://imgur.com/0AlxZLc

 
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When I put in the seed SystematicArbutus, it will not let me generate the world. Is anyone else having this problem or is it something I am doing wrong. I am still new to the game on PC.

 
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