What's the point of the apiary?

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Soulmonster

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I mean, getting honey without having to chop stumps is nice and all, but stumps are everywhere and the apiary is so slow to produce. Furthermore, the apiary is unlocked so late and accesories even later. In my current game, I had plenty of honey and antibiotics by the time I could construct the apiary. I still put one up but I have little incentive to pay attention to it.

If the apiary, with accesories, came earlier in the game, and honey was harder to get from stumps, it would make more sense.
 
Depends on how often get infected and use honey. I think it's a neat idea, I'll make one but I don't think I need one. There's more recipes calling for honey too.
 
I'm just about finished my current play through at level 150, still have not built one. I visit a lot of traders constantly though, and honey is only 150 dukes or so. I heard they were thinking about nerfing traders or providing options to nerf them yourself at some point so hopefully that makes the apiary more relevant.
 
The point is to have a consistent source of honey. RNG is RNG, a player may get honey every other stump, or they may get honey every 10 stumps.
 
Yep, I just went through 50 stumps. Found one jar, not good enough to eliminate teh infection, it came right back after the effects of the hone went away.

Rekt honey was 240, so I broke down and bought another. Die before I could see if it would cure it....not to the infection but to a dumb move.
 
It just depends on how you play the game. Once you craft the smoker, you can get honey without any risk of bees, which is a nice improvement over stumps. But that does take time. I'd have to agree that you should be able to build the apiary and mods sooner to make it more useful. Once you're crafting antibiotics, it has little value. With the mods installed and if you build a few of them, you can get a pretty good stream of honey coming in, which is also a nice improvement over having to hunt stumps. But there just really isn't a huge need for large amounts of honey. I see no value in the new honey food or drinks. That's just a waste of honey, imo. Why eat or drink something that uses honey as an ingredient unless you're infected. And at that point, why not just carry honey around instead of special food or drink? I've yet to craft food or drink that uses honey and I doubt I ever will. So the apiaries can be nice, but they should definitely be available sooner or they aren't really that useful.
 
Soulmonster said:
I mean, getting honey without having to chop stumps is nice and all, but stumps are everywhere and the apiary is so slow to produce. Furthermore, the apiary is unlocked so late and accesories even later. In my current game, I had plenty of honey and antibiotics by the time I could construct the apiary. I still put one up but I have little incentive to pay attention to it.

If the apiary, with accesories, came earlier in the game, and honey was harder to get from stumps, it would make more sense.
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Honey getting + Variaty in workstations! I think we shouldn't explain such obvious things.
 
Riamus said:
It just depends on how you play the game. Once you craft the smoker, you can get honey without any risk of bees, which is a nice improvement over stumps. But that does take time. I'd have to agree that you should be able to build the apiary and mods sooner to make it more useful. Once you're crafting antibiotics, it has little value. With the mods installed and if you build a few of them, you can get a pretty good stream of honey coming in, which is also a nice improvement over having to hunt stumps. But there just really isn't a huge need for large amounts of honey. I see no value in the new honey food or drinks. That's just a waste of honey, imo. Why eat or drink something that uses honey as an ingredient unless you're infected. And at that point, why not just carry honey around instead of special food or drink? I've yet to craft food or drink that uses honey and I doubt I ever will. So the apiaries can be nice, but they should definitely be available sooner or they aren't really that useful.
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I just crafted the smoker, at day 44. Pretty pointless because at this stage the bees are just a minor nuisance.

I would need more mods to ramp up production, so still at one honey every second day. I currently have about 3 honey teas, 5-6 honey jars, a 4-5 antibiotics in my inventory, all accumulated through cutting stumps and trees and looting.

Yeah, it should come sooner in the game. I would have it unlocked much earlier, and require only 1 or 2 beeswax (because the process of getting beeswax ensures you also get honey, which makes the apiary redundant). Then the apiary would become an actual alternative to chopping stumps in the early game when infection is a greater concern. Later in the game you have either found antibiotics or can craft it, and honey is less a concern.

I suspect the developers might have thought about this and hence created recipes for honey to give the apiary a secondary purpose. But those recipes are also unlocked late in game (I can currently only craft honey tea).
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ALEXZANDER said:
Honey getting + Variaty in workstations! I think we shouldn't explain such obvious things.
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I suspect you didn't actually read my post :)
 
The apiary is a rather strange object. It requires 5 wax to build. Wax is only found in stumps with bees, which is quite rare. By the time I managed to build it, I no longer knew what to do with the honey. After all, so much honey falls out of trees anyway.
 
Suxar said:
The apiary is a rather strange object. It requires 5 wax to build. Wax is only found in stumps with bees, which is quite rare. By the time I managed to build it, I no longer knew what to do with the honey. After all, so much honey falls out of trees anyway.
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well, then sell it
 
Soulmonster said:
What's the point of the apiary?
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If you are not aware, there are new food items that require honey to craft...

Honey Tea, + 8 Food, +24 Hydration, + 5% Cure Infection, +20% Cure Dysentery
Honey Glazed Sham, +98 Food, + 49 Health, + 5% Cure Infection
Honey Brisket, +141 Food, + 70 Health, + 5% Cure Infection

I think the Awesome Sauce recipe uses honey now too.

Agree, its not quite balanced yet. Maybe introduce a difference in quality and performance between wild honey and apiary farmed honey? (Some mods use a Manuka honey variety)
 
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