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Chambers
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It's actually not even a tenth of the contents. I've been working on this thing since April. And I do plan to extract all of the parts that I have made and share them with the public, as time allows.
As for the Overhaul, currently the Overhaul is still being playtested. It is in a functional state, but it is still being polished. I don't mind posting the Overhaul here, so modders can take my ideas and adapt them to their own mods. But it doesn't yet have proper documentation and attributions, so don't anybody post it somewhere for general access.
Chambers
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Actual Attributes Overhaul
The core of this overhaul is a full reorganization of the character sheet, adding a new attribute and lots of new skills, the main purpose of which is to add everyone's mods into the normal rpg progression, instead of being lumped into a few skills. Some key design goals are 1) All mods retain the same core appearance and gameplay of vanilla 7dtd, mods are only chosen to expand upon aspects of gameplay. 2) No alterations to core programming, only mod scripts.
This Overhaul is in working condition, but it does still lack polish in a lot of areas, and it uses the Chickens and Bees mods, which have issues, and additional trees, which both has issues and causes a performance hit. Tree abundance has to be reduced to fix that, and a final smooth spawn total has not yet been discovered during playtesting. As a work in progress, this mod also still doesn't have full, proper descriptions and attributions yet. All of which is to say, it is not yet ready for public consumption, but if modders want to mine it for ideas, feel free. All of my work is up for grabs.
What's in Actual Attributes?
The core of the mod is a reorganization of everyone's mods into the character sheet, placing those skills under post-apocalyptic attributes, including a brand new attribute (for a total of 6 attributes).
- Attributes were increased from 10 ranks to 12, in order to account for certain skills having a lot more ranks.
- A number of skills were given extra ranks, in order to keep certain ranks from being overpowered.
- Two tech levels were added, to better space out the new equipment, T1/2 and T4, aka Scrap Tier and Fiberglass Tier.
- Better Barter was given a lot of new ranks, in order to make it somewhat less OP.
- Added polearms, a very long-range melee-only spear.
- Added shurikens and throwing knives, because my playtesters demanded it (coming soon as an individual download).
- Added a bunch of axes, both logging and battle.
- 2 new arrows.
- A new book series, used to add a little extra when mining nodes.
- Addition of several new resources, such as fiberglass.
- Brewing, using the existing wine barrel as a brewery workstation.
- Lots of drinks that modify stats, made in the brewery.
A number of edits were also made to all of your mods that I added, though mostly this was simply to bring them into balance with the new tech levels. But there were a couple of add-ons:
- More meal recipes for Hydroponics.
- Additional Skill-By-Use tags and skills, also their icons.
If the owners of these mods feel like taking these edits and using them as their own, it's all free to use. Not that they have need of my humble modding skills, but if they don't want to type it out and make icons themselves, it's there.
Everything above are the mods (and edits that include additional items) that were made by me. Those are the parts you are free to use as you like, at least from my part. But note, the weapons do often have paid Unity assets, which should be repurchased by you if you plan to make use of those mods in a public release.
DOWNLOAD (3.7g): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AkxQiaWKHrcdn41PqvLQDYvZ812T6wmz/view?usp=sharing
The core of this overhaul is a full reorganization of the character sheet, adding a new attribute and lots of new skills, the main purpose of which is to add everyone's mods into the normal rpg progression, instead of being lumped into a few skills. Some key design goals are 1) All mods retain the same core appearance and gameplay of vanilla 7dtd, mods are only chosen to expand upon aspects of gameplay. 2) No alterations to core programming, only mod scripts.
Actual Attributes
This Overhaul is in working condition, but it does still lack polish in a lot of areas, and it uses the Chickens and Bees mods, which have issues, and additional trees, which both has issues and causes a performance hit. Tree abundance has to be reduced to fix that, and a final smooth spawn total has not yet been discovered during playtesting. As a work in progress, this mod also still doesn't have full, proper descriptions and attributions yet. All of which is to say, it is not yet ready for public consumption, but if modders want to mine it for ideas, feel free. All of my work is up for grabs.
What's in Actual Attributes?
The core of the mod is a reorganization of everyone's mods into the character sheet, placing those skills under post-apocalyptic attributes, including a brand new attribute (for a total of 6 attributes).
- Attributes were increased from 10 ranks to 12, in order to account for certain skills having a lot more ranks.
- A number of skills were given extra ranks, in order to keep certain ranks from being overpowered.
- Two tech levels were added, to better space out the new equipment, T1/2 and T4, aka Scrap Tier and Fiberglass Tier.
- Better Barter was given a lot of new ranks, in order to make it somewhat less OP.
- Added polearms, a very long-range melee-only spear.
- Added shurikens and throwing knives, because my playtesters demanded it (coming soon as an individual download).
- Added a bunch of axes, both logging and battle.
- 2 new arrows.
- A new book series, used to add a little extra when mining nodes.
- Addition of several new resources, such as fiberglass.
- Brewing, using the existing wine barrel as a brewery workstation.
- Lots of drinks that modify stats, made in the brewery.
A number of edits were also made to all of your mods that I added, though mostly this was simply to bring them into balance with the new tech levels. But there were a couple of add-ons:
- More meal recipes for Hydroponics.
- Additional Skill-By-Use tags and skills, also their icons.
If the owners of these mods feel like taking these edits and using them as their own, it's all free to use. Not that they have need of my humble modding skills, but if they don't want to type it out and make icons themselves, it's there.
Everything above are the mods (and edits that include additional items) that were made by me. Those are the parts you are free to use as you like, at least from my part. But note, the weapons do often have paid Unity assets, which should be repurchased by you if you plan to make use of those mods in a public release.
DOWNLOAD (3.7g): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AkxQiaWKHrcdn41PqvLQDYvZ812T6wmz/view?usp=sharing
Chambers
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WEAPON MODS
Throwing Knives and Shurikens
https://7daystodiemods.com/throwing-knives-and-shurikens/
Adds throwing knives and shurikens to the game, falling under the javelin throwing skill. Shurikens have longer range than throwing knives, but do even less damage.
Additional Arrows
Coming soon
Adds scrap arrows made from glass and fiberglass arrows made from, well, fiberglass (or in this case military fiberglass).
Spoiler
I am a fan of archery. As in, IRL.
And thus, entering into 7dtd, I wondered where glass arrowheads were. Now, you might be thinking, “wha???” But glass arrowheads are quite effective. Don’t believe me? Here’s a video:
Throwing Knives and Shurikens
https://7daystodiemods.com/throwing-knives-and-shurikens/
Adds throwing knives and shurikens to the game, falling under the javelin throwing skill. Shurikens have longer range than throwing knives, but do even less damage.
Okay, so, if you stop and give it some thought, it’s easy to realize that small throwing items such as shurikens aren’t going to do much to a zombie. Except maybe make them look like a porcupine, if you throw enough of them.
But with shurikens, you can’t escape the ‘coolness’ factor. And I have playtesters, and they really, REALLY wanted shurikens. (That is, they really wanted them until they got them, and now, meh.)
At any rate, this mod introduces a number of shurikens and throwing knives, all of them falling under the Javelin skill. In relation to other weapons in the game, throwing weapons are the least damaging weapon available, but they are super light on materials to craft, and they retain the ability to gain additional damage from adding strength to the throw – same as javelins. They are also retrievable. Plus they stack up to 10, which can be useful early game. Sometimes.
Unfortunately, we must speak about the animation. There isn’t a light-item throwing animation in the game. There is only the spear animation, and thus that is the animation that had to be used, if you don’t want errors to creep in. And since these weapons also had to stack (because reasons), that meant the animation couldn’t end in a Drop item position. Long story short, throwing weapons uses the left trigger to the throw, not the right. And after the throw animation, the game must complete a thrust spear animation to reset the hand position. So we all just have to think abstractly and pretend that that is all part of returning to the balance stance used for proper throwing.
Plus since spears are long and shurikens aren’t, they’re held out of the viewscreen. But hey, compromises have to be made to be cool.
NEW THROWING WEAPONS
You may have noticed there are more items added than melee Tech Levels, and that is because the Overhaul mod these were made for has an additional Tech Level squeezed in between Stone and Iron.
This mod uses mostly a free Unity Store asset, namely Shuriken pack, but it does use one paid asset, namely HQ PBR Throwing Knife.
JAVELIN
Scrap Shuriken
Refined Scrap Shuriken
Iron Shuriken
Steel Core Shuriken
THROWING KNIVES
Scrap Kunai
Iron Kunai
Fiberglass Throwing Knife
But with shurikens, you can’t escape the ‘coolness’ factor. And I have playtesters, and they really, REALLY wanted shurikens. (That is, they really wanted them until they got them, and now, meh.)
At any rate, this mod introduces a number of shurikens and throwing knives, all of them falling under the Javelin skill. In relation to other weapons in the game, throwing weapons are the least damaging weapon available, but they are super light on materials to craft, and they retain the ability to gain additional damage from adding strength to the throw – same as javelins. They are also retrievable. Plus they stack up to 10, which can be useful early game. Sometimes.
Unfortunately, we must speak about the animation. There isn’t a light-item throwing animation in the game. There is only the spear animation, and thus that is the animation that had to be used, if you don’t want errors to creep in. And since these weapons also had to stack (because reasons), that meant the animation couldn’t end in a Drop item position. Long story short, throwing weapons uses the left trigger to the throw, not the right. And after the throw animation, the game must complete a thrust spear animation to reset the hand position. So we all just have to think abstractly and pretend that that is all part of returning to the balance stance used for proper throwing.
Plus since spears are long and shurikens aren’t, they’re held out of the viewscreen. But hey, compromises have to be made to be cool.
NEW THROWING WEAPONS
You may have noticed there are more items added than melee Tech Levels, and that is because the Overhaul mod these were made for has an additional Tech Level squeezed in between Stone and Iron.
This mod uses mostly a free Unity Store asset, namely Shuriken pack, but it does use one paid asset, namely HQ PBR Throwing Knife.
JAVELIN
Scrap Shuriken
Refined Scrap Shuriken
Iron Shuriken
Steel Core Shuriken
THROWING KNIVES
Scrap Kunai
Iron Kunai
Fiberglass Throwing Knife
Additional Arrows
Coming soon
Adds scrap arrows made from glass and fiberglass arrows made from, well, fiberglass (or in this case military fiberglass).
Spoiler
I am a fan of archery. As in, IRL.
And thus, entering into 7dtd, I wondered where glass arrowheads were. Now, you might be thinking, “wha???” But glass arrowheads are quite effective. Don’t believe me? Here’s a video:
SirGreyTheRanger
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I downloaded the Additional Arrows mod you made. I can't craft fiberglass arrowheads but I already read Rangers vol. 4 which the recipe requires. I have all the volumes and can craft stacks of arrows. Is there any way to fix this? (I downloaded this mod after I got all Ranger's Guide to Archery volumes.)
Chambers
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Yes, it can be fixed. This was caused by an unfortunate oversight on my part. The error: when I exported the mod from the Overhaul, I neglected to include a progression file with the unlock line. My bad.
The update will be on the mod website relatively shortly. Or if you can't wait for the website to update and you want to make the edit yourself, you can save a progression.xml file into the mod's Config folder with the following code:
MajorMunchy
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Hey Quick thought: I have not tried this yet, but why not use the grenade/pipbomb etc animation instead. Seems like a more realistic approach. Then they should be held in your hand and when you release the throw it'll atleast over hand throw it. would be WAY better for throwing knives and a little better for the shurikens. What is their sneak damage multipliers as well? i think it would/should be like the bow AKA higher than normal.
SirGreyTheRanger
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Thanks for the response! I am also a big fan of archery and love the idea of glass. Also is it possible to add the ability to craft fiberglass and scrap arrows in stacks? Of course, this requires all 7 volumes of Ranger's Guide to Archery.
Chambers
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Everything you say is true and makes eminently intuitive sense. But allow me to introduce you to the unintuitive world of modding.
Short answer: All of 7dtd's animations are heavily restricted as to what you can do with them, and I was unable to break past those restrictions. Heavy stress on the 'i'.
Long answer: Let me take you on my journey. But first to follow along, it is necessary to know that in 7dtd, each character animation is hard coded to a hand position, and in turn those hand position/animation combos are connected to a particular set of behaviors. So, I started by trying to use the knife animation. Everything works fine up through the throw, but then your hands dop into an out-of-bounds position. You can still continue to throw, but it now looks funny, and if you, say, switch to a bow, your hands will remain in that funny position and you will not be able to draw. Then in order to have free use of your hands again, you have to reset your grip.
So, tossing the knife animation aside, next I tried the rock throwing animation, and the thing about tossables like rocks and grenades is they are not supposed to have hard collision and they are not supposed to be sticky (allowing you to pick them back up). If you give them those traits, bad things happen, sooner or later, usually sooner. A better modder than me might be able to script around this behavior, but the only thing I could do if I was to make it work is to start over with a dedicated knife animation, and that's the kind of thing I wanted to avoid with my Overhaul.
And I continued to beat my head against the wall in the same vein, until finally giving up and going back to the spear animation. But even that had issues, because I started out by trying to use the right button, and that's fine if you don't stack the items. But if you do stack, the animation ends in a drop position, which is again out-of-bounds.
And thus we come to what I did do using the left mouse button on the spear animation, cludgy workaround though it might be. Still, if a better modder wants to take over and make it work, the Unity asset I used is free up to but not including the modern knife.
Chambers
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Always glad to find another archery fan!
That's a can do. Expect that change to be uploaded to the website once again soonish.
Chambers
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Currently, throwing weapons follow the same formula as spears, so they do up to 2.85x extra damage based on the strength of your throw, plus sneak. Low base damage they might be, but if you sneak attack the head at full strength, even if you don't get a sever, the damage really stacks.
But as usual, when the rubber meets the road and people are choosing weapons to take into combat, lower but reliable damage tends to heavily outweigh higher but tricky stack damage.
Chambers
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I just uploaded 1.02, but the website hasn't updated yet. In the meantime, here is a direct link:
Chambers
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For the immediate future, I'm working on game balance for the big overhaul, and working on improving performance when there's additional trees. But when those pieces are done, I already have a chosen crossbow and two bows in the editor -- which I haven't yet done anything with.I am eager to see what you do with archery in your overhaul.
Are you just adding new types of bows and arrows/bolts, or do you hope to eventually revise how 7Days handles archery to some degree? Within the scope of Unity's capabilities and limitations, that is.
Setting that practical to-do list aside, my dream document does include attempting to use of some of the Unity commands already in 7dtd to give archery a more natural feel. The biggest question on that is, will those commands still work the same in the 7dtd engine? Including not bogging the game engine down, which already runs pretty high on resources? But to do the practical first, and then I'll poke around and see if anything from my dream document can be made reality.
Chambers
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This modlet hasn't been fully vetted yet, but for those who want an early sneak peek, as promised the forthcoming bows and a crossbow.
Are the bows new models?
Yes. Paid too.
Are they animated?
Yes.
Fully animated?
No.
Why not?
Because I'm too lazy for that. But they have their pull and loose animations.
WEAPON MODS
Additional Bows
Adds two early bows, a composite and a shortbow to T0, and two late bows, a recurve crossbow and a lever bow to T3.
Are the bows new models?
Yes. Paid too.
Are they animated?
Yes.
Fully animated?
No.
Why not?
Because I'm too lazy for that. But they have their pull and loose animations.
WEAPON MODS
Additional Bows
Adds two early bows, a composite and a shortbow to T0, and two late bows, a recurve crossbow and a lever bow to T3.
Additional Archery - includes Additional Bows and Additional Arrows. You don't have to use them both, they're just related.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QHQHS7OFPzq5uOVbGhoYii0NhNKta0kn/view?usp=share_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QHQHS7OFPzq5uOVbGhoYii0NhNKta0kn/view?usp=share_link
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