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A17 Vanilla+ mod [Discussion and planing thread]

Decrease zombie block damage as well? They're bulldozers now.
I consider it. But this change would have heavy impact. Maybe it would be a idea to make a very expensive block that can stand 9 times so much damage as steel but needs 9 times so much material too. Its a problematic topic to solve that without a big damage and block hp overhaul.

 
Why not make a recipe to make glue from leather. In real life, there is a hide glue that was made a long time ago. It is still made some places but is rarer than it used to be. That will fix the bones problem.

 
I am not sure that you can gather enough leather. But its worth to be considered.

For the moment i wait how the changes in next build at trader and vending machines feel

 
I am not sure that you can gather enough leather. But its worth to be considered.
For the moment i wait how the changes in next build at trader and vending machines feel
In the last half dozen of games I have started and played I tend to have more than 100 leather after 4 or 5 days. It seems like you could make glue with 2 to 5 leather in the recipe and still be able to have good amounts of glue.

 
Why not just review all the recipes that require duct tape and revise the ones that seem unrealistic. Use a different ingredient if possible. That will ease the bones/glue situation.

 
Here the first edit if TFP dont fix it

Sand issue and the simple sollution to make it no longer a unavoidable deathtrap
Problem (Collapsing 1x2 tunnels kill you all 2000 meters in desert(dies 5 times on arround 10km tunnels))

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Vanilla glue value of 4

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Sollution glue value of 5

One broad tunnels = safe

Two broad tunnels can work (high chance)

Three broad tunnels can work (low chance)

Four broad, no chance

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Should really be fixed

Currently sand killed me over 2 times so often as zombies
 
Why not just review all the recipes that require duct tape and revise the ones that seem unrealistic. Use a different ingredient if possible. That will ease the bones/glue situation.
Adding the bones to the Vending machine is easy to do, easy to balance and solve the issue 100% (my expectation)

Editing all the recipes take a long time (and rework each patch), can have sideeffects and maybe will not really fix the issue on some unforseen gameplay styles.

Further is would change the Vanilla gameplay what i try to avoid.

But yes could be a alternative if for any reason the Vending machine route dont work as expected.

 
Need all tests

Edit of vending machine

(added all items i think a trader would offer in the game situation, needs tests if balanced)

Code:
min_inventory="20" max_inventory="27"


		<item name="drinkJarCoffee" count="3,6"/>
		<item name="ammo9mmBullet" count="6,12"/>
		<item name="thrownAmmoMolotovCocktail" count="0,1"/>
		<item name="medicalBandage" count="1,2"/>
		<item name="medicalFirstAidBandage" count="1,2"/>
		<item name="drugPainkillers" count="0,1"/>
		<item name="drugHerbalAntibiotics" count="0,1"/>
		<item name="foodHoney" count="0,1"/>
		<item name="resourceForgedSteel" count="1,2"/>
		<item name="resourceForgedIron" count="1,2"/>
		<item name="resourceNail" count="2,3"/>
		<item name="candle" count="1,2"/>
		<item name="resourceGlue" count="1,2"/>
		<item name="resourceDuctTape" count="1,2"/>
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Edit of quests

In Basic survival 8

Code:
		<reward type="SkillPoints" value="5" chainreward="true" />
to

Code:
		<reward type="SkillPoints" value="20" chainreward="true" />
In White River Citizen 1

Code:
	<reward type="Item" id="casinoCoin" value="250" />
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Coffee buff

Code:
		<duration value="120"/>
to

Code:
		<duration value="300"/>
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Item

Code:
<item name="GoldenCasinoCoin">
<property name="CustomIcon" value="casinoCoin"/> <property name="CustomIconTint" value="1,250,1"/>
<property name="HoldType" value="45"/>
<property name="Meshfile" value="Items/Misc/sackPrefab"/>
<property name="DropMeshfile" value="Items/Misc/sack_droppedPrefab"/>
<property name="Material" value="Morganic"/>
<property name="Stacknumber" value="20000"/> <!-- STK resource -->
<property name="EconomicValue" value="1000"/>
<property name="EconomicBundleSize" value="1"/>
<property name="SellableToTrader" value="false"/>
</item>
Recipes

Code:
<recipe name="GoldenCasinoCoin" count="1" craft_time = "1" craft_exp_gain="0">
<ingredient name="casinoCoin" count="1000"/>
</recipe>

<recipe name="casinoCoin" count="1000" craft_time = "1" craft_exp_gain="0">
<ingredient name="GoldenCasinoCoin" count="1"/>
</recipe>
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Code:
<perk name="perkGreaseMonkey" parent="skillCraftsmanship" name_key="perkGreaseMonkeyName" desc_key="perkGreaseMonkeyDesc" icon="ui_game_symbol_service">
	<level_requirements level="1"><requirement name="ProgressionLevel" progression_name="attIntellect" operation="GTE" value="2" desc_key="reqIntellectLevel4"/></level_requirements>
 
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For the case i need it

In A16 i made recipes, now in A17 i add them to the traders (in larger amounts so that the chance they have them is bigger)
But sure here 3 Items (not testet ingame if it works)

Code:
<recipe name="jacketWhite" count="1" >
<ingredient name="resourceCloth" count="50"/>
<ingredient name="resourceFeather" count="50"/>
</recipe>

<recipe name="denimPants" count="1" >
<ingredient name="resourceCloth" count="35"/>
</recipe>

<recipe name="shirt" count="1" >
<ingredient name="resourceCloth" count="20"/>
</recipe>
 
Respawn of boulders [WIP]

<block name="rockResourceBroke2">

Code:
<property name="Extends" value="rockResource" param1="DowngradeBlock"/>
<property name="CreativeMode" value="Dev"/>
<property name="Model" value="Entities/Resources/rock_resource_broke2Prefab"/>
<property name="DowngradeBlock" value="GreenStuff"/>
</block>

<block name="GreenStuff">
<property name="CustomIcon" value="treeBrownGrassDiagonal"/> <property name="CustomIconTint" value="1,250,1"/>
<property name="Extends" value="treeGrassMaster" />
<property name="CreativeMode" value="Player"/>
<property name="Texture" value="201,306,371,201,306,371"/>

<property name="PlantGrowing.LightLevelGrow" value="0"/>
<property name="PlantGrowing.LightLevelStay" value="0"/>
<property name="PlantGrowing.FertileLevel" value="0"/>
<property name="PlantGrowing.Next" value="rockResource"/>
</block>
rockResource

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Respawn of cars

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Tritium material

Tritium Block

Tritium Ramp

Tritium Door

Tritium Container

Edit of admin wrench

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-100% glasses

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To do list from here

Possible to raise max amount trader can have to 5 stacks ?

Reduce weapon loot, raise ammo loot

Raise clothing loot or add more clothes to traders (one of my last games i was level 30 before i found a Duster)

Add color mods to trader (Next build do this ?)

 
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