You devs suck and just make the game worse with every update...

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IcyRed

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How is it possible that you just fiddle with parameters and bull■■■■ and call it new content? You SUCK!!!!!!!! The new scaling system is straight up stupid and nullifies the biome progress, which is stupid too. On 100%xp and 100% loot abundance pvp servers I can get all lvl 6 armor and melee weapon by lvl 33 and have the gyro at 38. This is ■■■■ty. Do some real work on your ■■■■ty game that could be the best zombie game ever, but it never will be as you are too busy reworking code for stumps into apiary and calling it new content.
 
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The game has completely changed many times. My favorite iteration was being able to build guns in A14 or A15. Many things came and went. If you're not happy with this iteration, just give it some time.
 
I never understood how anyone could think that such a post could ever get a positive outcome, such as devs making a change to improve the game in a way the OP would like. This kind of flame post is pointless, though not unexpected from a PVP player. If you want to promote changes to the game so it's more how you want it to be, then post something constructive. No guarantee anyone will listen, but the chances people will listen are significantly higher than from a post like this.

  • The game is designed specifically for around 60-70 game days on 1 hour days.
  • Default settings are designed to make the game easy for new players. If you want more of a challenge, don't use default settings.
  • The game is designed for PVE co-op. It allows PVP, but is not designed for PVP. You will always have issues if you want to play this game as a PVP game. You'll need mods to resolve as many of those issues as possible, but it will still not be a PVP game and there will be things that simply will not be balanced around PVP. If that is an issue, play a game that is actually intended for PVP.
  • The upcoming 3.0 version will have many additional game options to adjust the game in a variety of ways that can make it "better" for different people who like different things.
 
Riamus said:
I never understood how anyone could think that such a post could ever get a positive outcome, such as devs making a change to improve the game in a way the OP would like. This kind of flame post is pointless, though not unexpected from a PVP player. If you want to promote changes to the game so it's more how you want it to be, then post something constructive. No guarantee anyone will listen, but the chances people will listen are significantly higher than from a post like this.

  • The game is designed specifically for around 60-70 game days on 1 hour days.
  • Default settings are designed to make the game easy for new players. If you want more of a challenge, don't use default settings.
  • The game is designed for PVE co-op. It allows PVP, but is not designed for PVP. You will always have issues if you want to play this game as a PVP game. You'll need mods to resolve as many of those issues as possible, but it will still not be a PVP game and there will be things that simply will not be balanced around PVP. If that is an issue, play a game that is actually intended for PVP.
  • The upcoming 3.0 version will have many additional game options to adjust the game in a variety of ways that can make it "better" for different people who like different things.
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I never understood why we keep responding to them. They're obviously the most active posts on the forum, but I can't quite fathom why. :unsure: There's a mystery that may never be solved.
 
Riamus said:
I never understood how anyone could think that such a post could ever get a positive outcome, such as devs making a change to improve the game in a way the OP would like. This kind of flame post is pointless, though not unexpected from a PVP player. If you want to promote changes to the game so it's more how you want it to be, then post something constructive. No guarantee anyone will listen, but the chances people will listen are significantly higher than from a post like this.

  • The game is designed specifically for around 60-70 game days on 1 hour days.
  • Default settings are designed to make the game easy for new players. If you want more of a challenge, don't use default settings.
  • The game is designed for PVE co-op. It allows PVP, but is not designed for PVP. You will always have issues if you want to play this game as a PVP game. You'll need mods to resolve as many of those issues as possible, but it will still not be a PVP game and there will be things that simply will not be balanced around PVP. If that is an issue, play a game that is actually intended for PVP.
  • The upcoming 3.0 version will have many additional game options to adjust the game in a variety of ways that can make it "better" for different people who like different things.
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I didn't bother to read their flame post, but they're a PVP player, huh? They are such interesting specimens in the 7D2D community. Ever since the very early days, PVP in this game has been an objectively garbage experience. That's not me dissing the game, it's just not what the game is intended to be played as. It's like trying to look for stealth elements in Minecraft.
 
Dark Sun said:
I didn't bother to read their flame post, but they're a PVP player, huh? They are such interesting specimens in the 7D2D community. Ever since the very early days, PVP in this game has been an objectively garbage experience. That's not me dissing the game, it's just not what the game is intended to be played as. It's like trying to look for stealth elements in Minecraft.
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I assume they are just another one of Grandpa Minion peon, although they don't have the classic AI post so maybe they are in another fringe PVP server.
 
I don't think all that was needed. TFP try things and see how it goes, they listen to the feedback and make changes, which is more than most games. Not every update will please everyone, there will always be things people like and dislike. It's basically trial and error. Give them time.

As ICE-T once said "pimpin' ain't easy"
 
IcyRed said:
How is it possible that you just fiddle with parameters and bull■■■■ and call it new content? You SUCK!!!!!!!! The new scaling system is straight up stupid and nullifies the biome progress, which is stupid too. On 100%xp and 100% loot abundance pvp servers I can get all lvl 6 armor and melee weapon by lvl 33 and have the gyro at 38. This is ■■■■ty. Do some real work on your ■■■■ty game that could be the best zombie game ever, but it never will be as you are too busy reworking code for stumps into apiary and calling it new content.
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This is school yard ■■■■. Insulting devs for their work is the lowest form of criticism, it can hardly even be called that. You're just spewing toxic, immature, weak drivel for the sake of making yourself feel better.

This is just sad and embarrassing.
 
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IcyRed said:
How is it possible that you just fiddle with parameters and bull■■■■ and call it new content? You SUCK!!!!!!!!
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Those are called balance and expansion changes. You'll see that in any game from 7 Days To Die to Street Fighter.


IcyRed said:
The new scaling system is straight up stupid and nullifies the biome progress, which is stupid too. On 100%xp and 100% loot abundance pvp servers I can get all lvl 6 armor and melee weapon by lvl 33 and have the gyro at 38. This is ■■■■ty. Do some real work on your ■■■■ty game that could be the best zombie game ever, but it never will be as you are too busy reworking code for stumps into apiary and calling it new content.
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Always remember that YOU have the power to control all of the things you mentioned, unless your on a multiplayer server that you don't control. That's the power of a sandbox game. Don't want 100% on xp and loot abundance, you can change that to whatever suits your needs. The new scaling system actually supports biome progress now better than it did before, but that too can also be changed. And Apiaries are a welcomed addition, even if they generate product so slowly it's almost negligible.
 
IcyRed said:
How is it possible that you just fiddle with parameters and bull■■■■ and call it new content? You SUCK!!!!!!!! The new scaling system is straight up stupid and nullifies the biome progress, which is stupid too. On 100%xp and 100% loot abundance pvp servers I can get all lvl 6 armor and melee weapon by lvl 33 and have the gyro at 38. This is ■■■■ty. Do some real work on your ■■■■ty game that could be the best zombie game ever, but it never will be as you are too busy reworking code for stumps into apiary and calling it new content.
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You are very, very, very late to the party. They have been doing this for over 5 years now, since around A16. Not sure what happpened at that time, but I think they made a lot of money from the game and checked out for a while before returning and going corporate. Early on, they had good vision but something corrupted all that. They focused on appearance rather than gameplay. Optimization was given up on in order to combat YouTuber base builders. Now it's just another game, nothing special.

And so many people are worried about bandits for some reason. There are so many things that need attention before they should even consider that.
 
RyanX said:
Early on, they had good vision
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Even back then, there were other people who posted as you do now saying that the game was garbage and the devs sucked. It's no more true now than it was back then when even you thought the game was good. There will always be people who dislike change and instead of adapting and coming to enjoy the new state, post insulting and angry rants. Few are the people who can look at something they don't personally enjoy and still admit that it is good but just not for them. Most will just tear down and demonize and declare something they don't like as garbage.
 
Roland said:
Even back then, there were other people who posted as you do now saying that the game was garbage and the devs sucked. It's no more true now than it was back then when even you thought the game was good. There will always be people who dislike change and instead of adapting and coming to enjoy the new state, post insulting and angry rants. Few are the people who can look at something they don't personally enjoy and still admit that it is good but just not for them. Most will just tear down and demonize and declare something they don't like as garbage.
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But you have to admit that they disengaged around then for a period of time. I'm not slamming them for it, heck maybe I would have done the same thing if I made bank like they did. They took a vacay, whatever, but it changed them, and the game fundamentally from a sandbox to an rpg. Saying I should adapt and come to enjoy the new state....well, why would I play a game that I no longer enjoy? Why would drop by and post in the forums of a game I no longer enjoy? Well, the first part, I don't play it anymore. And the second part, I'm hopeful that their recent commitment to sandbox play will allow a very large portion of the community to return.

But you are right that I think the current iteration is garbage. Prior versions offered something other games did not, this modern version offers nothing that I can't get somewhere else. Maybe that will change.

And also, I am no better or worse thinking that something is garbage than someone else who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread. This whole modern mentality of having to either praise it or get out is tiring. I'm allowed to dislike it if I want. Spare me, please.
 
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